Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:13 pm
i'm around now, if that wasn't obviousIn post 2827, Bingle wrote:Damn, I wish skitts/SA were here to answer questions, that would make this way easier.
~ skitter
i'm around now, if that wasn't obviousIn post 2827, Bingle wrote:Damn, I wish skitts/SA were here to answer questions, that would make this way easier.
I think toog responded and it got lost in the you/vp stuff. Was wondering if you had any more thoughts.
In post 2296, Toogeloo wrote:It's the way ico and darby handled Enchant.In post 2294, Fun and Games wrote:VOTE: dwlee
I feel p good abt town-enchant tbh
Toog if u can even give a tldr about what you found scimmy there, i would appreciate it
~ skitter
Darby was "town-hunting" more and trying to drive home people as town, but the Enchant read never clicked. It was just constantly subtly pushed as a town read while more heavily pushing actual town reads, like A50 and Gamma, who have actually flipped town. Kind of a reverse rule of three tbqh.
Ico meanwhile kept slandering Enchant, and calling a few of their things scummy off the cuff, but rarely ever pushed and generally ignored Enchant, while keeping Enchant in a Null pile.
I'm not sure how else to tell you that the associatives between both parts of the flipped scum fell like they indicate Enchant as a partner than an adversary.
In post 2303, Fun and Games wrote:I mean tbf this is functionally the logic i was using to scumread gamma yesterday and he was townIn post 2296, Toogeloo wrote:Ico meanwhile kept slandering Enchant, and calling a few of their things scummy off the cuff, but rarely ever pushed and generally ignored Enchant, while keeping Enchant in a Null pile.
~ skitter
It looks pretty flaily but I’m not sure how much of that is NAI frustration about Andante not engaging. Is there something that looks exceptionally bad?
I don’t understand why this translates to enchant town. Like, if the logic is sound enough for a gamma read why isn’t it sound enough for an enchant read?In post 2303, Fun and Games wrote:I mean tbf this is functionally the logic i was using to scumread gamma yesterday and he was townIn post 2296, Toogeloo wrote:Ico meanwhile kept slandering Enchant, and calling a few of their things scummy off the cuff, but rarely ever pushed and generally ignored Enchant, while keeping Enchant in a Null pile.
~ skitter
Oh. I haven’t read that bit yet. I was hoping you were seeing the thing with andante I was seeing.In post 2879, Fun and Games wrote:dont' think their reasons for scumreading pooky are in good faith
~ skitter
This seems like a weird inversion of the fallacy fallacy to me, but I think that’s probably town points for you.In post 2881, Fun and Games wrote:it doesn't, i was saying that using that logic for calling enchant scum was bad because we tried that yesterday on someone else and they flipped town, so obviously that logic is somewhat faulty
~ skitter
You come across more townish to me than pooky, which is helping the overall read of your slot be more lean town.In post 2864, Fun and Games wrote:hi what do u think of my headIn post 2644, VP Baltar wrote:Fun and Games - null to townish. Still think Pooky is making very opportunistic points and bad faith arguments, but he's sort of being the same asshat he was in Hidden Temple. I still don't like him lurking until I called him out and voted, but after much prying, I find the explanation believable enough.
~ skitter
I could be down, but can you tell me the bullet points of why?In post 2866, Fun and Games wrote:how would u feel abt wagoning dwlee?In post 2644, VP Baltar wrote:Dwlee99 - very hard to read since Not Mafia posted like himself, and Dwlee is low efforting as well. Null to scumish.
~ skitter
- I was on Darby briefly D1, but true that I wasn't on there EOD.In post 2872, Fun and Games wrote:- never ended up on the ico wagon
- tried to divert multiple times away from the ico wagon (made a dunn push, made a sa push that he's now negating the importance of, shaded a50 for moving wagon momentum from gamma to darby)
- his initial push on us this phase was gross, and was basically shade without explaining why any of what he was actually calling us out for was scum indicative
- now he's trying to largely shade/ignore pooky's points
i'm not sure i see this tbh, they're townreading andante p hard, i don't really see them assuming scum-andante anywhereIn post 2885, Bingle wrote:Look at just Dwlee’s side for me? He’s tring andante there but it kinda feels like he’s assuming andante scum a good portion of the time
In post 2740, Dwlee99 wrote:Andante is clowning
In post 2741, Dwlee99 wrote:Andante if you're town what are you doing this game
In post 2747, Dwlee99 wrote:This totally indicates you reconsidering and not blind jumping into limming peopleIn post 2738, Andante wrote:hahahah that's how I felt talking to dwlee and VP, I just wanna flip dwlee and move on tbh
Posts like these. It feels like he’s genuinely scumreading Andante and then remembering “Oh shit I don’t want to lim andante.” And he jumped at me for even being adjacent to considering Andante scum.In post 2769, Dwlee99 wrote:When all of the things andante does help scum but they're blatantly town weeooweeoo my brain is a circus
They. Shit, sorry Dwlee.In post 2892, Fun and Games wrote:i'm not sure i see this tbh, they're townreading andante p hard, i don't really see them assuming scum-andante anywhereIn post 2885, Bingle wrote:Look at just Dwlee’s side for me? He’s tring andante there but it kinda feels like he’s assuming andante scum a good portion of the time
in fact it looks to me like if dwlee is scum they're trying to buddy andante because they're gonna need her vote to lim either us or someone not vp/dwlee
~ skitter
That looks very much like not buddying. Like, if dw is trying to earn cred with andante saying she’s clowning is a really strange way to about it. Also like 60% of the thread hasn’t even weighed in on the back and forth, so I think saying andante is necessary for a mislim in you is a bit of a reach.In post 2892, Fun and Games wrote:trying to buddy andante because they're gonna need her vote to lim either us or someone not vp/dwlee
To try to explain this it feels like sayingIn post 2884, Bingle wrote:This seems like a weird inversion of the fallacy fallacy to me, but I think that’s probably town points for you.In post 2881, Fun and Games wrote:it doesn't, i was saying that using that logic for calling enchant scum was bad because we tried that yesterday on someone else and they flipped town, so obviously that logic is somewhat faulty
~ skitter
for me i'ts calling out a50 + trying to herd people back to the gamma wagon (1979, for example)In post 2477, VP Baltar wrote:If you're town, that seems like an understandable analysis. I know it's incorrect, but I guess I can see where you'd be suspicious. Still think you could have answered my question at the start of the day instead of ghosting me or being obtuse about it.
In response to the point you're making, I don't think it'd be a wise play for me as scum there to make a stink about A50 ditching, especially since he is semi-erratic as a player. Seems like a play that is unlikely to get him to flip back to Gamma and the safer play would have been to just shut up or join the flop to a bus in a VP!scum world.
any wagon needs 5 votes, we're presumably not voting that, and i kinda doubt that you are, toog is very stuck on enchantIn post 2895, Bingle wrote:That looks very much like not buddying. Like, if dw is trying to earn cred with andante saying she’s clowning is a really strange way to about it. Also like 60% of the thread hasn’t even weighed in on the back and forth, so I think saying andante is necessary for a mislim in you is a bit of a reach.In post 2892, Fun and Games wrote:trying to buddy andante because they're gonna need her vote to lim either us or someone not vp/dwlee
ah ig i see what you're sayingIn post 2896, Bingle wrote:To try to explain this it feels like sayingIn post 2884, Bingle wrote:This seems like a weird inversion of the fallacy fallacy to me, but I think that’s probably town points for you.In post 2881, Fun and Games wrote:it doesn't, i was saying that using that logic for calling enchant scum was bad because we tried that yesterday on someone else and they flipped town, so obviously that logic is somewhat faulty
~ skitter
“Gamma had a .45 and the bullet fired was from a .45”
“Nah can’t be, gamma was at the bar all night. Enchant has a .45 though”
“Nah can’t be, Gamma was at the bar all night”