Because choosing not to replace out is a scumtell? Fuck that. Replacing out should never have a place in the strategy of a game, the fact that it does for some people honestly disgusts me. If life is hard or you don't have time or something happens IRL, whatever, you need to replace out, it happens. But replacing out as part of a strategy is pathetic and honestly if I had a choice people would get blacklisted and/or banned is it was ever discovered they'd done it.
/TD Rant.
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:19 pm
by Jordan_Downey
↑TiphaineDeath wrote:Because choosing not to replace out is a scumtell? Fuck that. Replacing out should never have a place in the strategy of a game, the fact that it does for some people honestly disgusts me. If life is hard or you don't have time or something happens IRL, whatever, you need to replace out, it happens. But replacing out as part of a strategy is pathetic and honestly if I had a choice people would get blacklisted and/or banned is it was ever discovered they'd done it.
/TD Rant.
QFT. All alignments aside, replacements are a necessary evil and should be used only when necessary. Strategic replacements are a special type of douchebaggery that burns my soul.
Sorry about my lack of giving a shit about this game. I'll get back into it tonight and tomorrow. I plan to kill a bottle of scotch and check ISOs right now, and if I'm still coherent enough to post that'll happen. If not, expect me to be both sober and awake tomorrow afternoon.
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:26 pm
by Titus
↑TiphaineDeath wrote:Because choosing not to replace out is a scumtell? Fuck that. Replacing out should never have a place in the strategy of a game, the fact that it does for some people honestly disgusts me. If life is hard or you don't have time or something happens IRL, whatever, you need to replace out, it happens. But replacing out as part of a strategy is pathetic and honestly if I had a choice people would get blacklisted and/or banned is it was ever discovered they'd done it.
/TD Rant.
Saki clearly didn't have the time for this. To stay on when you don't have time helps scum and not town. So yeah, I'll scumread her for not keeping up with committments and not replacing out. I don't know what, but something DID happen IRL.
That's not a "strategic" replace out. Using a replaceout to confirm alignment is strategic. Anything else is fair game. Sakura got in trouble for using it to confirm alignment but it's common for people to say you don't have the time sub out.
It's been three game days.
I see you recruited help in Jordan. How sad. Can't beat me with bullshit on your own TD even with Dr. Pants on my head?
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:30 pm
by mastin2
Out of hydra post because I'm basically posting this then going to bed. Basically, I've fallen massively,
massively
behind this game, in part thanks to computer failure, thanks to mental stress inducing apathy, and most recently, thanks to my vacation to Nebraska, but I'm essentially intending to fully get back into the swing of things. Maybe not by tomorrow (I'm really, REALLY behind this game, and there's a finite amount of time in a day), but with luck and mental fortitude, by the time my V/LA's marked to end.
I technically marked the V/LA as ending Thursday for this reason. I've had a bit of messed up priorities on my games and shoulda placed 'em before browsing speakeasy and whatnot, but, well...it's past midnight, and I still have a sore throat that comes with the territory of basically traveling 36 hours without good sleep, meaning I should be getting sleep. Obviously, the
idea
was for me to get entirely caught up on all MS.net stuff, everywhere, but while I'm nowhere even close, enough progress has been made to the point where at least for one day, I think I can place sleep ahead of duty.
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:43 pm
by TiphaineDeath
.... I detest when philosophical discussions become the crux of scumtells and you have irritated me to an unfortunate extent thus I am breaking of this conversation with you forthwith before I become truly angry. Please have a nice night, also, get lynched.
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:20 am
by Titus
Town Titus wins philosphical discussions. Good thing you quit before being outed.
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:28 am
by jon_h61
↑TiphaineDeath wrote:If Saki's telling the truth on this one
I'd bet at least two and maybe three of the people on Saki right now are scum
. Titus/ZZX is likely, with maybe a third, though that seems too good to be true.
This is the main reason I haven't placed a vote on Saki. Aside from the fact his play is exactly the same as his Town game the last time I played with him. Saki's still just a coin toss for me. I'm scum reading Rach, ZZZX, Dry Fit, and Malakittens (who mentioned voting Saki). It makes me think the wagon is poison, no matter Saki's play.
IF
Saki were to flip scum, then I'd have to readjust reads, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
On Titus' wagon I'm uncertain on SKOT, and PN. If it comes down to it, this is where I probably would vote out of sheer dislike for the content of the Saki wagon.
I'd rather others would come back to the ZZZX wagon. I think it has the better chance of actually flipping scum.
When you do, I want to have an intelligent dialogue. What about this game is different than others? Why? How is it alignment indicative?
Also think about the amount of sheepage for an unexplained read.
how can I give you details on something I cannot quantify. As I said there is a whole different tone. the why is because you are scum. Such tone changes come from differences in alignment. I know what your alignment was before, so vis a via... scum here. Folks are not sheeping me, they are voting you for your own reason. This has not been an easy wagon either.
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:54 am
by Doublade
V/LA until July 31.
Sorry, this week is crazy.
Doublade will be back with a vengeance, though!! (Hopefully.)
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:21 am
by Perpetual Nonsense
mostly alive.
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:44 am
by Titus
Really SKOT
Show a post with a reason I can fifght.
Jon you like my wagon really? Mala has just bitched I am scum done no content. Xay is voting me to eliminate someone scumreading him. TD is voting me to save his partner. PV is voteparked and SKOT hasn't provided a single fact. How can you like this wagon?
My wagon us gard to push bc there is not a reason there. I am the fallback mudlynch.
Jon you like my wagon really? Mala has just bitched I am scum done no content. Xay is voting me to eliminate someone scumreading him. TD is voting me to save his partner. PV is voteparked and SKOT hasn't provided a single fact. How can you like this wagon?
My wagon us gard to push bc there is not a reason there. I am the fallback mudlynch.
I don't have a reason that you can fight and I know that is irritating for you, it is what it is.
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:46 am
by ZZZX
jon likes all popular wagons
appurtanisitv indeed . (spe''ed it wrong)
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:47 am
by Titus
Skot, there is no reason. Unidentifiable meta is not a reason but a fig leaf.
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:08 am
by Sharpest-knife-on-tree
↑Titus wrote:Skot, there is no reason. Unidentifiable meta is not a reason but a fig leaf.
why I vote and why I suspect is what I suspect. Most of what passes for reasons around here are not reason either it is just harping on shit.
I suspect you, I explained why, it is what it is. This is what I do.
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:09 am
by ZZZX
non clear meta is good magia pkay that is clearly null
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:29 am
by jon_h61
@ Titus When it gets down to the wire, what should I do? Refuse to vote anyone? None of
my
scumspects look even slightly likely to have wagons. I've made my cases, I'm not popular enough to have sheep. The slots I've made cases on call me scum, but if they were so sure I'm scum, shouldn't they be voting me. Or at the least trying to make cases on me. Better than "jon likes all popular wagons" or whatever it was Dry was trying to push.
Rach kept trying to shrink my case on her down to lurking, which
never
was part of my case. Malakitten's case is more circumstantial, and I might be wrong on her. Only time will tell. I'm still leaning scum on her.
ZZZX is still the slot I feel is most likely to flip scum, so again, if forced to compromise (as a deadline vote) I would be more willing to vote Titus because I feel the wagon on Saki is toxic. Too many of my scum reads are on it already.
All I ask from Town, is, read what I've actually said. Then compare it to what my accusers are trying to twist it to. I ask you, who needs to distort facts?
I'm sorry Titus, but at the end of Today, if I can't get anyone to listen to me, and your wagon is still viable, I might be forced to make that decision. I'm sort of in the same boat as you, in that no one is taking my cases for scum seriously.
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:36 am
by Sharpest-knife-on-tree
↑ZZZX wrote:non clear meta is good magia pkay that is clearly null
your statement lacks clarity... sorry when someone is intuitive like I am sometimes you are not able to give clarity, you just have a sense. Everything is null until it isn't fyi.
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:40 am
by Dry-fit
↑TiphaineDeath wrote:Did you miss the part where he has been V/LA the whole game or are you being as intentionally moronic as scum-tus over there?
He's placed useless votes on players the whole game. Even if you're not very active you can mke it so your vote makes a difference instead of wasting it on a vote on someone like me.
Titus is getting lynched for some reason and it's not a very good lynch. Jon you should get over your bullshit wagon analysis and vote Saki. You have no apparent belief Titus is scum.
jon_h61 wrote:Better than "jon likes all popular wagons" or whatever it was Dry was trying to push.
That was ZZZX.
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:17 am
by EddieFenix
↑Titus wrote:Skot, there is no reason. Unidentifiable meta is not a reason but a fig leaf.
See, this sort of thing is why I tend to say fuck a previous game(s) player meta and love playing in the moment with mafia. Helps catch the scum when you can start thinking thru the steps of the 5 W's (who, what, where, when and why) of their plans.
Unvote
Sorry bout the v/la. Taking care of things lately (still am technically, just not as much) with events and stuff. Open to any and all questions if you might have some.
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:49 am
by Bulbazak
Prodding Xayzeck.
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:06 am
by Titus
Oh and now a perfectly timed unvote as Dryfit adds common sense to the thread.
Eddie why would Saki not give her slot a chamce to priduce? Answer scum benefit while we rip our heads off?
Of course that's your plan isn't it?
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:53 am
by Xayzeck
I never said I voted you because I scumread you?
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:54 am
by Titus
So you are voting to mislynch to be on s popular wagon then?