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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:52 am
by pieguyn
though I do have to ask this. HS, why do you not seem to be interested in consolidating votes?

S_S/Maria aren't living to endgame, no matter what happens, but there's no reason they absolutely need to be lynched right at this second and fuck everything else. what issue do you take with lynching two other pairs who aren't going to make it to endgame first (ignore the fact you're reading my pair as town)?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:54 am
by Human Sequencer
@pie: i think that'd get us banned, probably better to keep it on the downlow...
i've already stated i'll hammer mds/jester if it runs to l-1, which is a compromise for me. i'm not comfortable lynching any other pair right now.

it's not confirmation bias if I'm right, and i was right last game~
dunn you've given scum the perfect opportunity to lynch two townies, and mariar took no brevity in snatching it right up
anyway, i'm not even that annoyed if we get lynched because i've already set the game up for you: FUCKING LYNCH SHADOW/MARIAR, find the scum in {jester, mds, cerb, dunn}

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:57 am
by Human Sequencer
i doubt the ic pair will die at intermission, it'll probably be sad/scout or mh/pie

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:58 am
by pieguyn
there are legit a few people on this site who I can sense just by looking at their posts, but none of them are in this game. tis a pity

p-edit: if me/mhsmith is the pair who dies overnight, I probably will jump off a cliff.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:13 am
by MariaR
You're not looking at anything said in a towny light you're legit nickpicking for scummy things ignoring anything said that's towny.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:16 am
by pieguyn
Maria, why did I enter your scum list?

I'd also like an explanation for the scum read on Kagami.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:21 am
by MariaR
It's mostly a poe list as I tr the other ladies
I also have no right to say this but with all the praise you're getting as an amazing player you seem shockingly underwhelming to me

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:22 am
by MariaR
To give you my Kagami sr in basic detail
They've flip flopped votes a lot this game and I can't really find a lot of posts that scream towny to me

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:30 am
by The_Jester
Still not sold on Maria/Shadow, though Shadow seems to have disappeared when the heat moved on other pairs.
In post 2504, Shadow_step wrote:I'm not no lynching because I'm certain there is scum in kagami/dunn
Is this still valid? How do you feel about Maria currently voting the HS pair?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:34 am
by pieguyn
In post 2906, MariaR wrote:but with all the praise you're getting as an amazing player you seem shockingly underwhelming to me
oh dear, I'm being BOP'd.

if you want me to answer this, I'm approaching this game in a vastly different way from how I'd approach a normal game; all I need to do to win is find one town/town pair and try to make sure they get to endgame, as opposed to solving the entire game and making serious pushes on people. I don't really find most of what's been going on all that productive in terms of accomplishing this (this should be obvious if you look at any of my posts where I point out that there isn't much of a point in debating over who the best lynch is when the choices are a bunch of pairs who aren't and won't ever be anywhere near the most town pair we need to win), which is why I haven't been engaging most of the game so far.

I don't really remember Kagami flipping votes in any way that alarmed me? I remember her switching between wagons on pairs she scum read, but as I said, not much of a point in debating who the #1 scum pick is when none of the pairs are candidates for the town pair; if anything I think being willing to compromise on several people is more effective in this setup.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:38 am
by MariaR
Thanks for the answer.
I think one of the ways I pref to go for is instead of going for town/town pairs are try to find the scum in 1 of the groups in this case ladies because that's easier for me for obv reason.
If I had a gun to my head I'd say Kagami/scout scout is mostly there because I can point out other townreads in the rest of the ladies I think MDS's ate is genuine but I've been known as a sucker for it so that could be my blindspot for lady scum (I like your answer if you can't tell)

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:38 am
by MariaR
UNVOTE:
this was more of an anger vote if anything

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:46 am
by pieguyn
In post 2910, MariaR wrote:Thanks for the answer.
I think one of the ways I pref to go for is instead of going for town/town pairs are try to find the scum in 1 of the groups in this case ladies because that's easier for me for obv reason.
If I had a gun to my head I'd say Kagami/scout scout is mostly there because I can point out other townreads in the rest of the ladies I think MDS's ate is genuine but I've been known as a sucker for it so that could be my blindspot for lady scum (I like your answer if you can't tell)
I think if you're town, it's probably either Parama, MDS who will be sorted very soon so I'm not really thinking about her too hard, or no one. can you remind me why you town read Parama (especially given if S_S is town most of what they've done this game has been just sitting there and insisting that a town player is lynched)?

I'm not quite sure what S_S's alignment is, but their push on S_S is one thing that continues to have me worried about them and I'm not quite sure why people are expressing town reads on them for it.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:47 am
by MariaR
In post 2912, pieguyn wrote:
In post 2910, MariaR wrote:Thanks for the answer.
I think one of the ways I pref to go for is instead of going for town/town pairs are try to find the scum in 1 of the groups in this case ladies because that's easier for me for obv reason.
If I had a gun to my head I'd say Kagami/scout scout is mostly there because I can point out other townreads in the rest of the ladies I think MDS's ate is genuine but I've been known as a sucker for it so that could be my blindspot for lady scum (I like your answer if you can't tell)
I think if you're town, it's probably either Parama, MDS who will be sorted very soon so I'm not really thinking about her too hard, or no one. can you remind me why you town read Parama (especially given if S_S is town most of what they've done this game has been just sitting there and insisting that a town player is lynched)?

I'm not quite sure what S_S's alignment is, but their push on S_S is one thing that continues to have me worried about them and I'm not quite sure why people are expressing town reads on them for it.
There tone and approach to this game feels very similar to the game we just played (same reason why I think HS could be town)

it was basically this game but smaller

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:57 am
by pieguyn
Parama is definitely playing well if they're scum here, in the sense that their tone does *feel* town, but I have no idea how good their scum game is. have you seen them as scum before?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:01 am
by MariaR
I have not but apparently dunn knows Para at least well ish and the fact he doesn't sr her is a bit of a relief to me

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:04 am
by MariaR
The only t hing that puts me off me off slightly about S_S is he hasn't outted 1 reason why he tr's me it's just "oh yeah maria's town"

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:05 am
by Human Sequencer
As his pt partner I'll input that I've had nothing but townvibes all game. (parma)

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:06 am
by Human Sequencer
If I were just a little more of an ass I'd force leave tbh :twisted: :twisted:

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:18 am
by pieguyn
I'm not that interested in neighborhood interactions in terms of reads (or at least town reads). it's fairly textbook play when scum in a neighborhood to specifically tailor your interactions to the person you have a neighborhood with.

even if it's you saying it :<

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:20 am
by MariaR
If shadow is scum I'ma have irl trust issues

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:24 am
by The_Jester
^same with me and mds

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:27 am
by MariaR
In post 2921, The_Jester wrote:^same with me and mds
Good thing we both know there town right
buddy

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:27 am
by Human Sequencer
^lynch both these

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:29 am
by MariaR
In post 2923, Human Sequencer wrote:^lynch both these
Aw don't be like that
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