In post 2897, Creature wrote:Varsoon's 2nd scumread is Oka and I'm trying to articulate with him.
Why wasn't this an issue around the time Varsoon was pushing for your lynch after mass-claim? You've had, pretty much, the whole time I've been here to push Oka for his claim, or to articulate with Varsoon.
In post 2160, Suka wrote:N1 - Varsoon - no action (consistent with claim)
N2 - mbaki - towny action, no need to claim
N3 - kmd - towny action, no need to claim
VT is not "townie action", it's no action.
Why I don't get paranoid of mbaki rn
Why can't that just be scum who didn't act N2 and wants an investigative role lynched?
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I'm not gonna be able to do this now, sorry. My mind is fried and I need a good night's sleep. Maybe I'll try again tonight, but tomorrow is looking more likely. I don't go back to work until February 5 so once I get caught up, I'm here a lot more.
You are aware deadline is a bit over a day from now, right?
My thoughts are he's probably scum and if he isn't, then Oka is, and if Oka isn't and Creature isn't, then I lose the game.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:36 pm
by DrDolittle
heads up I'm flying in 10 hours, and I'll be intermittently busy, but will be checking the state of the game
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:37 pm
by mbaki
Neat. I think Moongrass is understanding why this game is so frustrating.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:40 pm
by Moongrass
I love the Creature/Varsoon articulating going on. It's almost like they're communicating telepathically with the amount of nothing that I'm seeing.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:42 pm
by DrDolittle
In post 2008, mbaki wrote:Well, my plan for the day was to lurk and find who I think the last scum is because I think I'm probably dying next. I haven't cleared anybody including Dannflor for ~paranoia~.
That said, because there's a hammer my reads are about this:
Dannflor / Creature*
Varsoon / Oka / Suka
DDL
Kmd
and please don't get unmotivated if we don't lynch right first try, 1 scum to a lot of townies is bad odds and I've seen towns drop games due to apathy that comes with a big early lead.
I WAS waiting, but since the days done:
Kmd, why am I and Suka likely scum to you? Talking about Suka being an odd pick for a Fish partner, and you are now the only player scumreading me I believe.
That leads to Oka, what made you change your mind on my slot?
DDL and Varsoon, you have both done little which makes your jabs at each other amusing to me. Varsoon and Creature, what is overtly scummy about DDL? Why have you been tunneled on bum since day 1?
this one, but I don't remember why clearly. I think it has something to do with "please don't get unmotivated if we don't lynch right first try" it seems very much the style of lets keep mislynching off this list. And the final line reads a bit of scum jeering.
lets discuss this. Is this true?
Can there be a scum commuter?
If it is true, then resolving {mbaki, dolittle} should have priority today
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:48 pm
by Moongrass
@DDL: I noticed that post too, along with others. I suppose mbaki could be confident enough to openwolf through the whole game. I don't see how mbaki misses that crumb though. I have a hilarious scenario in my head where the scum team don't understand normal games, and they targeted the traitor to recruit them. I'm pretty sure the mod would have intervened to clarify, or it would have been stipulated in the role PM.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:53 pm
by DrDolittle
im not sure what to do to be honest.
flipping creature is good because if creature is green, mbaki becomes relatively less likely to be scum due to interaction with oka (i.e. I'm willing to follow Varsoon's plan) and I'm willing to reevaluate the slot again.
if creature is red, I think mbaki is the preferred lynch.
but again this hinges on whether flipping creature is the correct play since perhaps he can be verified.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:56 pm
by DrDolittle
Wheres oka
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:59 pm
by Moongrass
I don't buy that Oka/mbaki can't be buddies. Oka posts a lot, and often with his team. mbaki omguses you SOD as an excuse not to vote anyone else. Oka tunnels Varsoon for similar reasons. I can see it, and I'm pretty sure Oka is using his case being rejected to cover his frozen behavior at this stage.
If there's a way to prove that I am commuter and sum that to Oka likely being ascetic, that would make a scumteam of ascetic and commuter pretty unlikely, wouldn't it?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:01 pm
by OkaPoka
well hello lads
ive have a very exhausting day, catching up
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:02 pm
by OkaPoka
ok im skimming this quickly cuz we have people online
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:03 pm
by DrDolittle
moongrass you do see that varsoon is relatively likely town due to his claim and role, right. do you think oka's resistance to this idea is scum-death-tunnel or town-oka being dense?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:04 pm
by Creature
Do you think follower + voyeur + ascetic + 2-shot commuter would be sufficient power for town?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:04 pm
by OkaPoka
how do we have less consensus in the 10 hours i was gone
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:05 pm
by OkaPoka
why are the wagons shifting so much
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:05 pm
by OkaPoka
i assume everyone just ignored my 3 part posts?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:06 pm
by Creature
Scum's plan of waiting paranoia ignite is showing to be successful.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:06 pm
by Creature
In post 2919, Creature wrote:Do you think follower + voyeur + ascetic + 2-shot commuter would be sufficient power for town?