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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:14 pm
by superbowl9
In post 2838, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 2824, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 2821, Battle Mage wrote:where did you get Flea as 3p from? and how did you jump from Oil is confscum based on the claim to Oil is 3p?
"I suicide" is a 3P ability in my book. Oil is clearly at minimum scumsiding so they are scum, whether that be scum 3P or true scum. Combine that with Oil's 3P claim and I think Flea/Oil are a 3P team that's scumsiding
They are a 3P team, and Flea's big plan was to...elim them both in 1 go? Notwithstanding the fact they backtracked.

I just think 3p for BOTH is a real long shot here, and may not be true for either, but you're treating it as the most likely scenario. Doesn't seem great to me.
??? No obviously if they are both 3P Flea wouldn't use the ability, which is why I asked if we could force them to. Taking yourself "out of the timestream" is literally a 3P mechanic

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:15 pm
by superbowl9
In post 2837, Flea The Magician wrote:Also pushing for my fullclaim and the 3p shenanigans...


VOTE: Superbowl
Oil, if you live - which I'm sure you do, you activate your positive role tonight, agreed?
If you are actually 3P with Oil you should be fullclaiming. Pretty sure we have a way to force you/Oil to townside

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:16 pm
by Bell
No really, Flea's ability is so good that it doesn't make any sense with Mastina as universal back up.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:17 pm
by Firebringer
i joined this game to have fun with nacho.
and i have had zero fun with nacho.

what a tragedy.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:17 pm
by Bell
On the otherhand, with a desperado that has to use their ability within two days, I kinda doubt they would ever actually get that ability unless the scum team lucked out.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:18 pm
by Bell
And in this case they wouldn't really have lucked out because they would have to face an unexpected universal super doctor back up hidden in the wings.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:20 pm
by Bell
UNVOTE:

I don't get it.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:21 pm
by Bell
My initial answer is that Flea's claim is fake and they lost the game of chicken with my claim and the surrounding town.
I realize how that makes me look and realize it annoys flea town to no end (and I don't mean to cause misery) if that isn't the case.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:25 pm
by Bell
This is almost as bad a role as that infamous bullet-proof vengeful blindside in that datasi game.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:26 pm
by Bell
Is there any protective that would like to counter claim Flea?

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:26 pm
by Bell
Otherwise, I'm taking the claim as true.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:29 pm
by superbowl9
In post 2887, Flea The Magician wrote:I am your protective, GG.

I have an option to protect myself, I can't poof for a single phase, it has to be a complete cycle.

Now I'm dead. Tatty bye.
Yep so fakeclaim, realize it doesn't work, then modify it to something ridiculously strong. Why out the protective part of this unless you're afraid your team is getting rolled? We weren't planning on killing you unless oil checked red anyways - town you would go into the arena, let the checks happen, and if Oil does end up red use the ability on yourself. If not, you get a protection anyways. Surely me telling you to fullclaim 1 time after you suggested it wasn't enough pressure to force a claim against your better judgement?

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:30 pm
by superbowl9
I guess I was wrong though, because this implies Flea knows about a red check. I guess they're just scum pulling a really stupid gambit

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:30 pm
by Flea The Magician
Active, I protect one person per night.
Active, I protect a nominated person on a nominated night.
Active, I leave the time stream to come back at a time nominated when I leave, for all intents and purposes I count as not being in the game, my slot doesn't exist, I can't post, vote, or use actions.

I can do 1 per night.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:31 pm
by superbowl9
In post 2909, Bell wrote:Is there any protective that would like to counter claim Flea?
In post 2910, Bell wrote:Otherwise, I'm taking the claim as true.
Please do not do that

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:33 pm
by Flea The Magician
I claimed at E1, and if not for bells unvote I would've self hammered into the arena.

I hinted and crumbed at it enough.

and for the record I did indeed send in a protection action on mastina hoping something trippy would happen, action failed.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:33 pm
by Bell
In post 2913, Flea The Magician wrote:Active, I protect one person per night.
Active, I protect a nominated person on a nominated night.
Active, I leave the time stream to come back at a time nominated when I leave, for all intents and purposes I count as not being in the game, my slot doesn't exist, I can't post, vote, or use actions.

I can do 1 per night.
There is a night phase.
There is an elimination phase.

There is no "nominated night phase"
I don't know if I'm gotchaing here stupidly.
But I'm correcting this.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:35 pm
by superbowl9
In post 2915, Flea The Magician wrote:I claimed at E1, and if not for bells unvote I would've self hammered into the arena.

I hinted and crumbed at it enough.

and for the record I did indeed send in a protection action on mastina hoping something trippy would happen, action failed.
What utility does fullclaiming this provide? Besides saving your own ass, which you should be able to do yourself????

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:35 pm
by Bell
Actually.

Cell, what would you call the phases present in this game?

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:35 pm
by Bell
I don't get it either. The only way Flea would have died in that arena is if I got a guilty indicator result and Oil was a 3p.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:36 pm
by superbowl9
And I thought I was voting flea, I forgot the counts reset after the nomination

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:36 pm
by Flea The Magician
*facepalm*

"HeyMod, I want to protect Mastina Tonight!"

"Hey Mod, I want to protect Bell on N4"

"Hey Mod, I'm jumping timestreams until D4."

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:36 pm
by Perfect Cell
In post 2918, Bell wrote:Actually.

Cell, what would you call the phases present in this game?
You have Day Start -> Nomination Phase 1/2-> Elimination Phase -> Twilight -> Night

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:37 pm
by superbowl9
In post 2919, Bell wrote:I don't get it either. The only way Flea would have died in that arena is if I got a guilty indicator result and Oil was a 3p.
I assumed your ability would inno 3P. Point still stands though

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:37 pm
by Bell
Fae would have come out smelling of roses otherwise.

Wtf.