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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:00 am
by MathBlade
In post 2895, Bell wrote:Because pattern recognition. I’m not a psychologist.
That is indeed where you read I said fuck it.

You’re not explaining why that makes you vote me.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:01 am
by SirCakez
Pooky's day 2 has been better no doubt
But I don't think it covers for how atrocious his day 1 was

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:02 am
by MathBlade
In post 1774, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1769, Spiffeh wrote:I'll probably be choosing between mastina and Titus today

Unless SirCakez really shits the bed in his posts the last ten pages I don't really want to go there today
KTT why the puke emojis?

I am kinda torn. I townread the entire Titus wagon except Cakez.

But my townreads are saying Titus is town.
If Titus is town then Mastina is probably town,
So then Cakez?

That’s where I am confused on but I don’t like the wagon on Cakez as it has majority of my PoE.
Also Cakez posting this page of buddying me is crap as it’s well known I have a predisposition towards scumreading Titus

You know what: Fuck it.

VOTE: SirCakez
This is also from D1. Where I said fuck it.

Are you saying fuck it is bad because I am voting scum?

Dunn SirCakez Bell?

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:02 am
by SirCakez
I only tackled day 1 because when I promised the case we were very early in day 2

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:05 am
by SirCakez
I should have made this more clear - the case was meant to show why my scumread on Pooky was so strong end of day 1 + start of day 2
it's not the end-all of my read on Pooky atm

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:14 am
by Titus
In post 2897, Prism wrote:I think (GI, DGB, Cakez, Titus, Dunn, Math, BM) holds all 3 scum.
Interesting about Math. Talk to me more about that. Some things he said within the past couple days are worrisome. If he is scum, he could be trying to chain miseliminate me and Cakez. That doesn't explain his Dunn flash vote.

Also, talk to me about Dunn. He makes no sense with the vote patterns.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:22 am
by MathBlade
In post 2897, Prism wrote:VOTE: DGB

Cakez is really doing his best to get me to vote him but I'm going to hold the line.

I think (GI, DGB, Cakez, Titus, Dunn, Math, BM) holds all 3 scum.
Pick one of Cakez/Titus/Dunn. I will join you there.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:22 am
by Battle Mage
DGB posting big analysis? Highly unusual in recent experience of town-DGB. anyone else got a meta here?

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:25 am
by Titus
@Math, why flash Dunn? Independently of Cakez v Pooky, Dunn should be obvtown by votes.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:27 am
by MathBlade
In post 2908, Titus wrote:@Math, why flash Dunn? Independently of Cakez v Pooky, Dunn should be obvtown by votes.
Because I want to see DGB/Cakez/Prism’s reaction.

All three scumread Dunn. I am trying to explore the situation if you and I and Cakez are all town then Dunn is scum by PoE so seeing reactions.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:28 am
by MathBlade
I also want Bell’s reaction too because he hasn’t explained anything and his vote feels chainsawy

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:37 am
by Prism
I'll revisit Titus after my meeting but re: "Pick one of Cakez/Titus/Dunn": No.

The gap between GI/DGB and the rest is sizable to me and I neither want to wagon one nor see the necessity in doing so.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:38 am
by SirCakez
I'm iffy on Dunn - he could be scum but I'm not as sure as day 1. Would yeet for clarification.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:41 am
by Titus
In post 2909, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2908, Titus wrote:@Math, why flash Dunn? Independently of Cakez v Pooky, Dunn should be obvtown by votes.
Because I want to see DGB/Cakez/Prism’s reaction.

All three scumread Dunn. I am trying to explore the situation if you and I and Cakez are all town then Dunn is scum by PoE so seeing reactions.
Again. It's Pooky or LLD or you.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:47 am
by MathBlade
In post 2913, Titus wrote:
In post 2909, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2908, Titus wrote:@Math, why flash Dunn? Independently of Cakez v Pooky, Dunn should be obvtown by votes.
Because I want to see DGB/Cakez/Prism’s reaction.

All three scumread Dunn. I am trying to explore the situation if you and I and Cakez are all town then Dunn is scum by PoE so seeing reactions.
Again. It's Pooky or LLD or you.
Mason,Mason, not scum. I mean you can keep arguing this but it only makes my scumread of you grow.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:56 am
by MathBlade
In post 2911, Prism wrote:I'll revisit Titus after my meeting but re: "Pick one of Cakez/Titus/Dunn": No.

The gap between GI/DGB and the rest is sizable to me and I neither want to wagon one nor see the necessity in doing so.
Ffs there is no gap.

DGB I said is town many times.
GreyICE is only possible with a tiny subset of players.

It is infuriating how no one wants to do the right thing today.

VOTE: Titus

Saw what I wanted from Prism and Cakez. DGB and Bell seem offline.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:46 am
by DrippingGoofball
I don't have a townread on Tammy, largely on account of regular insertion of RL excuses, especially when related to demotivation and lack of participation. That's a scumtell to me. I reckon I am in the minority reading that as scum behavior.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:47 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 2907, Battle Mage wrote:DGB posting big analysis? Highly unusual in recent experience of town-DGB. anyone else got a meta here?
Yeah my meta is that I do it as town all the time.

@MathBlade, there is deadline, is there?

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:48 am
by Prism
In post 2904, SirCakez wrote:I should have made this more clear - the case was meant to show why my scumread on Pooky was so strong end of day 1 + start of day 2
it's not the end-all of my read on Pooky atm
It's very clear to me why you chose to limit it to Day 1 FWIW, I'm just saying I would have loved to see you back off now because I think Pooky is safely town. He's playing the game of his life he rolled scum.

Incidentally I do not like that you pushed almost wholly stuff that is in Pooky's case NAI, as pointed out by DGB scumfuck though she may be.
In post 2905, Titus wrote:Interesting about Math. Talk to me more about that. Some things he said within the past couple days are worrisome. If he is scum, he could be trying to chain miseliminate me and Cakez. That doesn't explain his Dunn flash vote.
Honestly at this point what Math says goes in one ear and out the other, because they are virtually invariably some variant of "You need to vote Cakez/Dunn/Titus" for wagonomic reasons, where many wagonomic reasons I fundamentally reject and those that I don't leave me with "Well it's one of these 4 people" which does not inspire confidence.
In post 2905, Titus wrote:Also, talk to me about Dunn. He makes no sense with the vote patterns.
I lean that Dunn is town mostly for his Day 2 start; I saw a bit about him voting directly after mastina but I don't find this very indicative. His Day 1 reaction to me townreading sangres was very bad imo even though I know he hates that we beat up on him for that already. I really haven't spent too much time trying to read this slot simply because his reads tend to be very limited and tough to divine the intention of without more flips.
In post 2915, MathBlade wrote:Ffs there is no gap.

DGB I said is town many times.
GreyICE is only possible with a tiny subset of players.

It is infuriating how no one wants to do the right thing today.

VOTE: Titus
Respectfully, you don't get to decide where the gap is in my qualitative reads. As mentioned above to Titus, I fundamentally reject much of your wagonomics and the idea that I do agree with-there was probably one scum on the wagon, which leaves it in these 3/4 players-do not inspire confidence that I should burn anywhere from 1-4 eliminations to catch a scum in people I have no strong reads in.

I vehemently disagree that GreyICE is only possible with a tiny subset of players and your DGB town case is both extremely limited and unpersuasive.

While you may be frustrated that I refuse to go in the three, for my part I am deeply frustrated that you have spent 20+ pages telling me to vote one of these three players no matter how much I insist that I have no interest in doing so unless required.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:56 am
by Bell
In post 2900, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2895, Bell wrote:Because pattern recognition. I’m not a psychologist.
That is indeed where you read I said fuck it.

You’re not explaining why that makes you vote me.
Look math. I think you’re scum and I think it everyday and I think it every time you vote and say fuck it when you do. I’m never ever changing my mind about this. You are scum. You have a role PM that is red.
Unless a cop comes in and says I’m wrong I am never going to stop thinking you’re scum.

Capisce?

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:57 am
by Prism
@penguin_alien: Can we get a GreyICE prod?

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:58 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Cakez,

your "case" is laughably weak.

it's so bad that DGB ripped it apart in like one sentence.

the only part she highlighted in red, was something that I showed
restraint
in.

If I were scum, and you were town, I would show 0 restraint, that word doesn't even exist in my scum dictionary, you would have 1000% have been pushed to death by me d1. I definitely do not take my foot off the gas at any point in that push.

lastly. your claim that I felt threatened by your "push" on me and thus decided to attack/discredit you is ludicrous on its face.

Did you see a single person during d1 even remotely support your push on me? I didn't! so why the hell would I feel any degree of threat at all? It's just preposterous you actually believe I would be scared or threatened in any way.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:04 pm
by SirCakez
In post 2918, Prism wrote:It's very clear to me why you chose to limit it to Day 1 FWIW, I'm just saying I would have loved to see you back off now because I think Pooky is safely town. He's playing the game of his life he rolled scum.

Incidentally I do not like that you pushed almost wholly stuff that is in Pooky's case NAI, as pointed out by DGB scumfuck though she may be.
why is this stuff NAI? NAI NAI NAI people say. but can anyone actually provide evidence that Pooky is normally that shitty as town? no they cannot
PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Cakez,

your "case" is laughably weak.

it's so bad that DGB ripped it apart in like one sentence.

the only part she highlighted in red, was something that I showed
restraint
in.

If I were scum, and you were town, I would show 0 restraint, that word doesn't even exist in my scum dictionary, you would have 1000% have been pushed to death by me d1. I definitely do not take my foot off the gas at any point in that push.

lastly. your claim that I felt threatened by your "push" on me and thus decided to attack/discredit you is ludicrous on its face.

Did you see a single person during d1 even remotely support your push on me? I didn't! so why the hell would I feel any degree of threat at all? It's just preposterous you actually believe I would be scared or threatened in any way.
why did you only open with your attacks on me when I was bringing you up as scum? multiple times I mentioned I thought you were scummy and within hours you dropped it to call me scum.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:04 pm
by SirCakez
dropped in*

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:04 pm
by SirCakez
In post 2918, Prism wrote:It's very clear to me why you chose to limit it to Day 1 FWIW, I'm just saying I would have loved to see you back off now because I think Pooky is safely town. He's playing the game of his life he rolled scum.
also this is dumb because if I didn't write the case Pooky would literally have never shut up about it