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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:41 am
by Tanner
In post 2898, clidd wrote:Already have you on my townpool after reread during the night.
when you're able to, i'd like some elaboration on what you read that made you arrive at that conclusion.

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:07 am
by Morning Tweet
Well that's dumb

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:08 am
by Morning Tweet
So mafia played weird intentionally so we would scumread them

Also... we know who all the criminals are. That flavour seems to imply criminals = mafia. That's sort of odd.

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:10 am
by Morning Tweet
Seems like Yin is a major liar though, there doesnt seem to be a third faction.

Still, very odd. Two mafia still alive, huh?

I was figuring one of clidd/Pooky were last mafia

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:13 am
by Morning Tweet
You know, that's kinda fun though. We have to rethink EVERYTHING we know.

Tanner is probably a good choice so far, I recall his interactions with Robert and no one in particular being the best

But I'm not going to commit to anything until rereading with the new information.

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:17 am
by Morning Tweet
Wow, we have to pick every Townie but one correctly and it's so difficult because we "correctly" killed mafia earlier

f u n

Pooky might be conf scum

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:22 am
by Tanner
In post 2903, Morning Tweet wrote:Seems like Yin is a major liar though, there doesnt seem to be a third faction.
^^. yin and yang are confirmed opposites, right? and yang is in the mason pt with amy. *and* yin's eyes changes colour. he's on the scum side, he's gonna lie to us.

pooky confscum why again?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:24 am
by Morning Tweet
I was clearing him for not helping scum agenda but if the plan was "Have Infinity and Nakata be super scummy and have the town tear them to pieces while scum maintains innocence", then voteparking Ircher is perfect for that

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:25 am
by Morning Tweet
and pooky knows when he floats around the place ppl townread him

Dunno.

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:26 am
by Tanner
changed*

i tried looking at the wagons earlier, but i don't even know where to start. whether or not scum would get onto a scum wagon like infinity's feels like pure wifom.

pedit: that makes sense i guess. is flea's votepark on me comparable? though i doubt scum collectively went for the "sit on our asses and do nothing" strategy.

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:26 am
by Ydrasse
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:27 am
by Morning Tweet
In post 2906, Tanner wrote:
In post 2903, Morning Tweet wrote:Seems like Yin is a major liar though, there doesnt seem to be a third faction.
^^. yin and yang are confirmed opposites, right? and yang is in the mason pt with amy. *and* yin's eyes changes colour. he's on the scum side, he's gonna lie to us.

pooky confscum why again?
Ah, makes sense then. So he's informed of everything naturally and Yang isn't. Wonder if he's in the scum PT too.

I'm sure scum cleared Amy, it's no coincidence the most townread player became uneligible

Also... I'm pretty sure we go away after sentencing, so I figure we should probably do the riskiest and lower activity sentences first, rather than start with you. I'd kinda rather hang on to you longer. If that makes sense

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:28 am
by Tanner
also hot take: scum was informed not only of yin being evil, but also of the fact that he would blow up ircher. i thought it was weird that nakata didn't blow him up on his way off, then i thought it was even weirder when the wincons got revealed, but... eh, it's still kinda weird i guess, but at least makes a bit more sense?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:29 am
by Ydrasse
assuming scum did pick amy, what does that say about pooky's alignment

like she's been hard townreading him all game and i know she says that he wouldn't say/do the things he's done as scum to her but... imo he would entirely and beyond taking away an easy sentencing for town this feels like it benefits him more than anyone else

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:30 am
by Morning Tweet
Oh yeah if scum is playing optimally you totally blow up Ircher when going out. There's a really good chance they knew Yin was on their side. Course, maybe they were playing suboptimally but i dont see a reason to keep ircher alive ESPECIALLY if they know we're gonna start nominating townies after Nakata dies.

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:32 am
by Ydrasse
i really want flea to talk about... anything right now because fae sitting on tanner/the yin stuff all game feels like a good way to distance from infinity/nakata without it being obvious? like there's little association that comes with that tunnel vision to them and if they were both acting super scummy and letting themselves get wagoned. yeah.

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:34 am
by Tanner
In post 2911, Morning Tweet wrote:Also... I'm pretty sure we go away after sentencing, so I figure we should probably do the riskiest and lower activity sentences first, rather than start with you. I'd kinda rather hang on to you longer. If that makes sense
not sure if i like this idea. mostly because the longer town!me is alive into the game, the more i turn into an idiot. but also because this doesn't feel like something we should be trying to bigbrain - spare the towniest people. especially since there was a nightkill after a scum flipped, but not after a townie did, and i don't want to risk that pattern continuing.

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:34 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
i am shocked :O

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:36 am
by Ydrasse
[tanner, me, morning (?)]

i'm starting with this for who i want but i need to actually do legwork for once and go back to check but i think tanner has passed the breakpoint for me of "is this all wifom and he's been masterminding this all along"

we should also decide the order before we start voting but i agree with mt i think

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:36 am
by Tanner
In post 2913, Ydrasse wrote:assuming scum did pick amy, what does that say about pooky's alignment

like she's been hard townreading him all game and i know she says that he wouldn't say/do the things he's done as scum to her but... imo he would entirely and beyond taking away an easy sentencing for town this feels like it benefits him more than anyone else
i totally could see scum!pooky doing that... amy was generally townread, no? maybe i'm bised because you were my strongest townread going into the night and if anything i'd expect you to be conftown'ed, but i'm probably biased by not townreading amy that strongly myself.

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:37 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 1523, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:what if we're all actually dead and we're actually voting for players to be brought back to life?

:shifty:

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:37 am
by Ydrasse
i think that of the 'towniest' people whoever thinks they can get amy to look at pooky critically with the most success should stick around

even if she is right on her townread there i don't want it being pushed through because she said so

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:37 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
im so conftown at this point

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:38 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
legit if any1 actually thinks im scum they're either crazy or scum ^.^

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:38 am
by Morning Tweet
All we have to do is gatekeep one of the mafia from ever being nominated. So if there's a weak link, we win if we keep them out..

Amy Dunne (ineligible)

Morning Tweet
Tanner
Ydrasse
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clidd
Chara
PookyTheMagicalBear
Flea The Magician

I *feel* like a reread isn't going to change that Tanner and Ydrasse are town, and if that is so, and if people agree I'm town, then we just need to nominate 1 town in clidd/Chara/Pooky/Flea before we nominate two mafias

*cross fingers*