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In post 2302, Something_Smart wrote:Uh, something like

Skitter, Pooky, Ceph, DGB
Ydrasse, Galron
Everyone else

In post 2899, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 2894, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like I don't get why you would decide to just sit still and let others define the game state if you are actually town here.

And honestly. It may be true that you don't get why I would do it as town. That's fine, a lot of people don't get me, and I don't get

you

at all. But in the hypothetical world where I wouldn't do this as town, why do you think I WOULD do it as scum? Surely that would be giving up all control over the gamestate while simultaneously outing myself to anyone who knows my meta?

In post 2900, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 2302, Something_Smart wrote:Uh, something like

Skitter, Pooky, Ceph, DGB
Ydrasse, Galron
Everyone else

Tetrina and Gamma up a bit, Ceph down a bit, so like:

Skitter, Pooky, DGB
Ydrasse, Galron, Ceph
Tetrina, Gamma
Infinity, ssbm

In post 2905, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:do you still think this guy is town dude

In post 2905, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:do you still think this guy is town dude

In post 2915, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: skitter
Since no one wants to stick to doing S_S, I’ll go to what’s my second-best guess atm

In post 2901, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you're just waiting to die and not spew your partner into a shittier spot than they are already in.

In post 2917, Gamma Emerald wrote:

@kyouko

: what’s your current thinking for viable S_S partners rn? I’m asking you because you are the one who brought up the meta point that relates to this rabbit hole I’m going down

In post 1499, Galron wrote:VOTE: Pooky

That readlist of the communicaters comes from scum I think. Scum know who the scum NPC is. This is Pooky leading Town into deception.

In post 1504, Galron wrote:Pooky's saying Hey, this is who we should be listening to. And this other one is cute. That doesn't track.

In post 1508, Galron wrote:

In post 1505, Cephrir wrote:Wh... why doesn't it track

He keeps saying Shutterbug is scum, but he doesn't address their content. Every other NPC he gets at their content. He just says Shutterbug is scum, adorable, cute, whatever. Makes me think we should be listening to Shutterbug.

In post 1509, Galron wrote:

In post 1507, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:So you think pooky is scum and telling us to listen to the scum caller, who is...?

I don't know but I think it's +town for shutterbug.

In post 1606, Galron wrote:

In post 1596, rousseau wrote:

In post 1594, Galron wrote:I missed this post. What was confusing about it?

it confusing because like

you say it came from scum because scum knows who the scum npc is but you didn't seem to indicate anyway where you thought pooky was like, slipping that they were informed or not actually solving the callers due to already knowing?

and then you asked like, do you want to follow bad advice? when like, has it felt so far like they are really giving us advice to you? or leading us somewhere?

and you kept saying we should listen to shutterbug because pooky was ignoring their content but... what content like pooky said

and you seemed to be missing entire context for pooky doing this in the first place
and then when given context you did not interpret it correctly so it felt like you didn't even check to see if the person you were scumreading was actually telling the truth about why they did the thing you were scumreading them for?

That's true I didn't check up on what Pooky said. That's just something I took at face value. If he says you asked him to do it, I figure he's not lying because he's going to be called out on it either by you, another player or me when I go back to read what I missed. And it's Pooky, so he's not going to lie about something so easily checkable unless he's just trolling, and he's a better troll than that.

So yes, I was missing the context for it because I did miss a couple of pages, and I still haven't gone back to check them. In fact, I still haven't gone back to see where you asked him to do that, although I think he or someone posted it for me.

What I was saying about shutterbug was that we should listen to her because it looked to me that Pooky was scumming. I hadn't read closely any of the communications after the first real ones because they didn't seem important. Whether shutterbug had content or not at that point (the point Pooky made the thing) wasn't important anyway. If Pooky was scumming, and shutterbug was townsided, we needed to listen to her if she ever did pop out with content. I mean, how would Pooky know, even if he was scumming, whether shutterbug would have something town would find useful in the future. And it looked to me like Pooky was telling us to disregard her.

I think that answers your questions, but I'm not sure because I'm not the one seeing the contradiction. It just kind of makes sense in my head.

And also I just keep thinking Pooky is a deep wolf for some reason. Maybe he's more active than I'm used to -- that's something I've noticed -- but I haven't played a game with him since I think the end of last year/beg of this year, and it may be something else. But anyway it's the same feeling I get from House/Enchant. There really isn't one particular thing I can point to, I hate this but it's more of a vibe I'm feeling with those two slots. Pooky's for longer. House's since next to last post or exit post and then Enchant has skeeved me since the replace in.

In post 1610, Galron wrote:

In post 1595, rousseau wrote:

In post 1593, Galron wrote:I think I had him in rvs and.I let it sit there for longer than I usually would bc he felt slight scummy. Then he has the thing about not being able to keep up and that felt real but was nai really. And I don't remember off the top of my head too much of him agree that except I think he was posting more but I wasn't getting anything from him. So I'm null scum I guess on him. S_S will liven the slot up a bit I'm guessing. But Roden left little impression.

hm

i asked because roden wagon felt like the most plausible scum motivation i could think of for you to do this:

In post 1582, rousseau wrote:but i do not think scum!galron is super likely to employ the 'why don't i just do something even if it doesn't make any sense' approach?

Is this talking about the Pooky thing. I'll be honest, I didn't even realize there was a Roden wagon. I think it must have been part of a couple of pages that I missed. But that doesn't matter, I guess what's important is I don't understand the link between Roden and me and me going after Pooky. Or Roden's thoughts on me, and me, and me going after Pooky. If it has something to do with the latter, the way I approached Pooky made sense to me.

In post 1619, Galron wrote:

In post 1616, rousseau wrote:

In post 1613, Galron wrote:

In post 1595, rousseau wrote:

In post 1593, Galron wrote:I think I had him in rvs and.I let it sit there for longer than I usually would bc he felt slight scummy. Then he has the thing about not being able to keep up and that felt real but was nai really. And I don't remember off the top of my head too much of him agree that except I think he was posting more but I wasn't getting anything from him. So I'm null scum I guess on him. S_S will liven the slot up a bit I'm guessing. But Roden left little impression.

hm

i asked because roden wagon felt like the most plausible scum motivation i could think of for you to do this:

In post 1582, rousseau wrote:but i do not think scum!galron is super likely to employ the 'why don't i just do something even if it doesn't make any sense' approach?

And you're talking about scum motivation for me, right, and not Roden? Well, yeah of course you are. I don't know. I just don't get the question I guess.

i meant that i asked about your read of roden because the most plausible scum motivation i could think of for you to 'do something even if it doesn't make any sense' would be if trying to divert from roden,

but you say messiness due to not reading lots of things, though i guess it's still weird to me for you to push on something you haven't read the surrounding things

Okay, so you're saying I'm causing a distraction while people are wagonning Roden in order to draw attention to myself and away from him. That implies that Roden and I are scum together. It's kind of weak, isn't it? Why would scum!Galron look to be scum read in place of his scum buddy. But that's NOT what you're saying. What you're saying is I'm causing a distraction while people are wagonning Roden inorder to draw attention to Pooky and away from Roden, not to me and away from Roden. So that does kind of make sense. And I'm going to have to think about that for a minute.

In post 1739, Galron wrote:

In post 1717, skitter30 wrote:

In post 1713, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 1710, skitter30 wrote:I think its scummy for everyone honestly, yeah

Can you respond to 1704?

Like yeah I can see that if someone consistently focuses on the callers and avoids the players that can be scummy. But I was specifically directed to look at them, and they're a special mechanic of the game, so why wouldn't I try to understand them?

I think 1714 largely addresses that point, but lmk if i missed something

I owe a few things ro a few people, i'll be getting home this evening and will be able to answer more thorougjlh then

If you'd put me in the queue, everyone seems to have at least one person they're fairly confident is scum, but I'm not sure about you. I thought you had a fairly strong scum read on Inifinity, but these posts:

In post 1457, skitter30 wrote:I actually kinda think pooky is scum >.>
@infinity i will respond tomorrow night, im short on time atm and i have to go looking for past games

I'm kinda cool with the roden wagon.

Have a great weekend everyone!

In post 1640, skitter30 wrote:I had no townvibes on roden and i dont like ss's entrance thus far + enchant seems kinda clueless in a way that doesnt seem likely to be coming from someone with access to a scum pt

In post 1647, skitter30 wrote:

In post 1643, rousseau wrote:(3) enchant: gamma emerald (1575), infinity 324 (1576), galron (1584)
(3) something smart: ssbm kyouko (1391), tetrina (1400), cephrir (1401)

Ty
I kinda like the formation of the ss wagon more tho

VOTE: ss

Kinda makes me think you're flaking a bit.

In post 1740, Galron wrote:I'm thinking, though, that if these really are s/s wagons a lot of what I'm confused about clears up. But I don't really like even suggesting they're s/s bc I don't see that very often.

In post 1741, Galron wrote:And really, there' s a lot of indecisiveness in general, myself included.