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[tenebrousluminary]

Dragons is most notably different because they were the only one of the three to vote GeneralWu. Additionally, I feel they are the most capable of giving more, they have the fewest posts and I have the least sense of who they are within the game.

Also, I have felt at times that Dragons has in fact read the game. Scorp isn't doing anything because they have not read the game. What's Dragons' excuse?

read my posts i've been giving reads and shit

Exactly. You are present enough to have reads. So you are capable of producing content.

[DeasVail]

Nearly everyone suspects me to some degree or another, but so far I have produced town-indicative content in response to votes against me. I believe that this suspicion persisting in light of the fact I am scumhunting actively and unafraid to take stances indicates something. I believe that I am seen as weak and eventually pushable because I am newer.

What do you think is town-indicative about your content.

What stances have you been unafraid to take?

[Save The Dragons]

Dragons is most notably different because they were the only one of the three to vote GeneralWu. Additionally, I feel they are the most capable of giving more, they have the fewest posts and I have the least sense of who they are within the game.

Also, I have felt at times that Dragons has in fact read the game. Scorp isn't doing anything because they have not read the game. What's Dragons' excuse?

read my posts i've been giving reads and shit

Exactly. You are present enough to have reads. So you are capable of producing content.

and i am so what's your point

[Nero Cain]

*if* the rest of his team in a pretty good position

pushes one player as his buddy. lol

this is the same shit that VP did d1 to try to get me to vote Wu

[tenebrousluminary]

Dragons is most notably different because they were the only one of the three to vote GeneralWu. Additionally, I feel they are the most capable of giving more, they have the fewest posts and I have the least sense of who they are within the game.

Also, I have felt at times that Dragons has in fact read the game. Scorp isn't doing anything because they have not read the game. What's Dragons' excuse?

read my posts i've been giving reads and shit

Exactly. You are present enough to have reads. So you are capable of producing content.

and i am so what's your point

You appear to be doing so right now. I am explaining why I voted for you a while ago.

[Save The Dragons]

i posted content d1

[MathBlade]

Dragons is most notably different because they were the only one of the three to vote GeneralWu. Additionally, I feel they are the most capable of giving more, they have the fewest posts and I have the least sense of who they are within the game.

Also, I have felt at times that Dragons has in fact read the game. Scorp isn't doing anything because they have not read the game. What's Dragons' excuse?

read my posts i've been giving reads and shit

Exactly. You are present enough to have reads. So you are capable of producing content.

and i am so what's your point

You appear to be doing so right now. I am explaining why I voted for you a while ago.

Not feeling an std elim atm.

Can you explain why you’re so opposed to Scorpio?

[MathBlade]

D1 isn’t fair to judge StD on imho
I went through something similar in a recent game
The fact StD is trying right now is town enough for me.

[tenebrousluminary]

Nearly everyone suspects me to some degree or another, but so far I have produced town-indicative content in response to votes against me. I believe that this suspicion persisting in light of the fact I am scumhunting actively and unafraid to take stances indicates something. I believe that I am seen as weak and eventually pushable because I am newer.

What do you think is town-indicative about your content.

What stances have you been unafraid to take?

I'm not playing this game anymore.

Is this even a question I can reasonably answer? I am tired of talking about myself. I am constantly being hounded for explanations of everything I do by half the game in a way that does not seem to apply to everyone else, and then I'm attacked for being too defensive. In this case, no one will even care about my answer, since if I know something looks town, I could have done it to look town. Why should I bother?

I have offered reads contrary to popular perception on multiple occasions. If you cannot be bothered to go and look, at this point, neither can I. I'm sick of this.

[tenebrousluminary]

Dragons is most notably different because they were the only one of the three to vote GeneralWu. Additionally, I feel they are the most capable of giving more, they have the fewest posts and I have the least sense of who they are within the game.

Also, I have felt at times that Dragons has in fact read the game. Scorp isn't doing anything because they have not read the game. What's Dragons' excuse?

read my posts i've been giving reads and shit

Exactly. You are present enough to have reads. So you are capable of producing content.

and i am so what's your point

You appear to be doing so right now. I am explaining why I voted for you a while ago.

Not feeling an std elim atm.

Can you explain why you’re so opposed to Scorpio?

I am not "so opposed." I just do not particularly think he is scum. With Dragons actually doing something, I would prefer to pursue someone whose flip will give us a direction now.

[Nero Cain]

I mean maybe we shouldn't even worry about it and just vote him out and if he's scum then he's scum and if he's town he'll no longer be a distraction.

eh...his early game was p bad

I don't care that much about Scorp and if it happens it happens. You could make the argument that a somewhat scummy vt is a decent elimination but I'm not all that gung ho on him flipping scum but maybe. If he town flips though this is prob a scum influenced wagon.

[Nero Cain]

though I think im prob voting scum in enchant?

[Nero Cain]

or maybe, idk.

BWHHAHAHAHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHHAA.

was his reaction to me voting him in Polish Rap

maybe that means something, maybe it doesn't.

[DeasVail]

Nearly everyone suspects me to some degree or another, but so far I have produced town-indicative content in response to votes against me. I believe that this suspicion persisting in light of the fact I am scumhunting actively and unafraid to take stances indicates something. I believe that I am seen as weak and eventually pushable because I am newer.

What do you think is town-indicative about your content.

What stances have you been unafraid to take?

I'm not playing this game anymore.

Is this even a question I can reasonably answer? I am tired of talking about myself. I am constantly being hounded for explanations of everything I do by half the game in a way that does not seem to apply to everyone else, and then I'm attacked for being too defensive. In this case, no one will even care about my answer, since if I know something looks town, I could have done it to look town. Why should I bother?

I have offered reads contrary to popular perception on multiple occasions. If you cannot be bothered to go and look, at this point, neither can I. I'm sick of this.

I understand that this sort of process can be frustrating if you're town (or even if you're scum!), but I don't make these posts for no reason. My impression of your gameplay is that it is safe and largely following the momentum of the town. If I am wrong then I need you to prove it. When you say that you have "offered reads contrary to popular perception on multiple occasions" I need you to point it out to me because I don't see it.

You have said that you think scum is trying to mis-elim you, but I don't have a strong impression from you of who

are

the scum trying to miselim you. Regarding me and fire, arguably the two main players have been pushing you: You gave subtle indication of thinking fire might be scum early on but never went anywhere with it and most recently have expressed a strong townread. Apart from expressing that one thing I did looked town, you have not made much mention of a read of me. Is it a coincidence that myself and fire are also players that do not seem to be widely suspected?

The vote on STD came after I pointed out that you were largely following momentum, but it very much matches the safe play that I have expected from you. Voting a lower-activity player for pressure is not something scum would expect to be seen as controversial.

[Scorpious]

There aren’t any

Why did you vote me then?

Idk, someone said me and you were scum and said it was too easy..

Since I’m not you just be based on that logic.

[DeasVail]

As an addendum to my post, I seriously do think that if tenebro thought that they were a miselim that scum is trying to achieve, that there would be more focus on players such as myself and fire, rather than... the players that everyone else is talking about.

[Scorpious]

not sure how much playing of mafia since 2008 has helped him, like come on, I was a literal child back then

i feel so old now

Trust me, I’m way too old to be playing online forum games during work

[tenebrousluminary]

Deas:

I was scumreading fua on this basis earlier for their poorly thought out attack on me. I am now ignoring the slot due to its vig claim. I am becoming concerned about you, if silently, because you're providing yet another vector by which I am forced to spend all my time defending myself, or so would be the case if I continue to play this game the way you want me to. fire made a strong push against me earlier and I scumread him for it, but in light of his convincing insights on fua, I have rethought this. In fact, that he is not at all concerned with how he is perceived may be a good sign.

One example of my being contrary was taking monkey's side against Aristeia. I was also one of the first to go after Datisi, but since everyone seemed to think I only did so because Yeet did first, I do not expect this to resonate. I feel there are likely more examples but again cannot be arsed to look for them and if you wish to park your vote on me for that, so be it.

But overall, at this point, it's the softer and more timid shading of me coming from other places that I'm more concerned about. I'm being kept in the elim pool and saved for later. No, I do not have an exhaustive list of who is guilty of this. My thinking is evolving in real time. Surely I don't read as someone who showed up to today with a plan given what a mess my suspicions have been.

[DeasVail]

Thank you for your response. I continue to think you are scum but there is nothing more that I expect you to answer at this stage.

[VP Baltar]

it's the softer and more timid shading of me coming from other places that I'm more concerned about. I'm being kept in the elim pool and saved for later. No, I do not have an exhaustive list of who is guilty of this.

This is wildly paranoid if you're town. It's also very vague

[Yeet]

not sure how much playing of mafia since 2008 has helped him, like come on, I was a literal child back then

i feel so old now

Trust me, I’m way too old to be playing online forum games during work

I do anyways to procrastinate, haha. I can definitely sympathize with this sentiment.

[Save The Dragons]

One example of my being contrary was taking monkey's side against Aristeia.

why hasn't my taking of monkey's side against aristeia shaped your read of me

[DeasVail]

I think it’s also an example of subtle flourishes to make me look more unreasonable than I am but eh

Above is in response to VP

[tenebrousluminary]

One example of my being contrary was taking monkey's side against Aristeia.

why hasn't my taking of monkey's side against aristeia shaped your read of me

I don't think you're partners with her, if that helps.

At the time, I didn't suspect her and your take was pretty hot. I just thought she was making a bad argument.

[Mizzytastic]

I'm heading to bed and don't have time to put much flavour together so some homework for the reader - what 4 space shapes do you think can be killed? Answers when I wake up

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Official Votecount 2.3

Scorpious (3): Save The Dragons, MathBlade, Datisi

[E-6]

VP Baltar (3): Scorpious, Cape90, tenebrousluminary

[E-6]

Enchant (2): skitter30, Nero Cain
tenebrousluminary (2): DeasVail, fireisredsir
MalcolmTucker (1): Yeet
skitter30 (1): Enchant
Cape90 (1): VP Baltar

Not Voting (4): Frogsterking, MalcolmTucker, Eyes without a face, April Ludgate

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2022-03-16 09:20:00).