Your vote on me here doesn't feel particularly consistent with some of your posts from before? Feels a bit opportunistic, like you're realising I could be a convenient elimination to take some heat away from your slot which was under pressure before STD dropped out.
Much inconsistent
Such opportunistic
Spoiler:
In post 2869, Lukewarm wrote:scum lean
MalcolmTucker
Cape90
Titus
Big Chungus Gaming
Like you were in my scum pile, and then when I looked at my scum pile, I saw that my town reads were interested in BCG (NM) and you (Marci), so was willing to back either option to progress the game.
You were in my scum pile because when I read part of Day 2, your defense when Frog called out your bcg's town logic, your response was "but are we partnered" and when Marci called out your MariaR read, your response was "but what about my STD read."
Both defenses feel like they make more sense coming from a point of view of "but what about these other, unrelated things that I did that I thought would make people think that I was town" instead of "oh, you think me doing this is scummy, well you are wrong because I did it / thought it and am town."
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ngl, you calling it inconsistent without backing it up at all, sure doesn't make me think you are less likely to be scum, because this just seems like shade for the sake of shade.
Your vote on me here doesn't feel particularly consistent with some of your posts from before? Feels a bit opportunistic, like you're realising I could be a convenient elimination to take some heat away from your slot which was under pressure before STD dropped out.
Much inconsistent
Such opportunistic
Spoiler:
In post 2869, Lukewarm wrote:scum lean
MalcolmTucker
Cape90
Titus
Big Chungus Gaming
Like you were in my scum pile, and then when I looked at my scum pile, I saw that my town reads were interested in BCG (NM) and you (Marci), so was willing to back either option to progress the game.
You were in my scum pile because when I read part of Day 2, your defense when Frog called out your bcg's town logic, your response was "but are we partnered" and when Marci called out your MariaR read, your response was "but what about my STD read."
Both defenses feel like they make more sense coming from a point of view of "but what about these other, unrelated things that I did that I thought would make people think that I was town" instead of "oh, you think me doing this is scummy, well you are wrong because I did it / thought it and am town."
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ngl, you calling it inconsistent without backing it up at all, sure doesn't make me think you are less likely to be scum,
because this just seems like shade for the sake of shade.
It's not shade for the sake of shade when you've replaced into a slot that was one of my main scumreads.
It was perfectly reasonable for me to point out to Frog that I was unlikely to be partnered with BCG given how the game had panned out till then. I don't really get what you mean re the Maria/Marci/STD point but happy to answer/clarify.
In post 2855, MalcolmTucker wrote:Luke seems town so far on their play. Didn't like BCG but suppose it's possible they largely just got disengaged given the replace out.
You called my play town until I voted you, and you called my vote on you inconsistent based on nothing
I think the point is to know : did they live because of the disloyal mod or because a scum doc was on them
Tests the target, not NM
This
It’s why I would prefer to test you over BGC
Because if you’re town and live to tomorrow and NM lives to tomorrow then you visit NM meaning we likely get a check on N4 and survives to N5.
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:50 am
by MathBlade
I want to have all protective slots checked and taken care of.
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:00 pm
by Cape90
VOTE: MalcolmTucker
I think Malcolm just has a suspect playstyle in general, but his responses to Lukewarm, who I am thinking is just getting more and more towny is just not it
I don't see what makes Luke so inconsistent to you Malcolm
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:01 pm
by Cape90
I don't think any of the speculation stuff is AI though since I suppose that's the mass-claiming stuff that's been going on
There's very little interaction between Marci/Pooky early on and these exchanges look like players who could potentially be partnered. Marci felt very hedgy on Pooky - not completely unwilling to vote there but never particularly pushing Pooky all that strongly either. Their read on the slot feels a little bit inconsistent, like they wanted to create some distance but didn't want to push there in case it picked up momentum.
In terms of Malcolm, I like posts like this which do provide a fair point in terms of how marci has been treating the pooky slot
If you don’t want to cooperate with the town block you can die. No need for mass claim.
Do you actually properly think Titus is scum here or not? The wording of your post indicates you're largely voting Titus for disagreeing with you and I dislike that, it can be frustration but disagreement isn't always bad for town provided players aren't overly stubborn.
I don't really find this post towny in fact, it just seems odd and also ignores literally everything else that MathBlade has done in suspecting Titus and goes off assumption without reading beyond the base level.
Mainly I want to find the scum that kills Frogger over me.
Because while I am alive scum are pretty much stuck doing what town decides.
I have to go now but yeah. That’s kinda where I am at.
That and I can’t figure out Titus.
Why is this true? You're active, sure,
but it's not guaranteed town will follow your reads and it's not even guaranteed all town will trust you
, as we're seeing with Titus. Scum could also be perfectly content leaving you alive if you're on the right track as well, or may simply have killed Frogster because they believed he had an important role and one of them had managed to identify it.
I don't like how Malcolm talks like town is some separate entity from himself here.
In post 2493, MalcolmTucker wrote:I'd be perfectly content with a Furtive elimination at this point as well from a brief catch-up. Their jokey/playful tone doesn't feel natural and sounds more like scum to me trying to dodge suspicion by looking like they don't care, without having to particularly commit to reads.
Vote for me then, get your hands dirty.
How many votes are you at? I'm wary because it seems you've accumulated a good few and we have some notorious quickhammer players in the game. If it's settled to eliminate you though I'm more than happy to hammer.
This post directed at furtiveglance feels so slimy almost in like a teabagging way. I do not see Malcolm "wanting" to solve for the furtive slot in this post at all.
In post 2494, MalcolmTucker wrote:Even if Pooky's ISO here isn't particularly identical to early-game Lost, I've definitely seen a few games where Pooky is fairly quiet in terms of fully-formed reads despite having a higher post count. I'm not seeing them as scum and feel like when a read depends too heavily on meta comparisons to work, it's not a great or massively strong scumread.
I mean you could point out marci's treatment of Pooky but man IDK about your own complaining that too many people were relying on meta reading pooky or whatever.
In post 1639, MalcolmTucker wrote:Pooky's responses seem okay, I'm not particularly wanting to go there at the moment. Back to null on the slot, certainly not sold on them as scum.
This too.
I am aware that my slot isn't the greatest when it comes to the Pooky slot, I mean I just defended him because i thought the juxtaposition between his day 1 versus day 2 posts were "a towny shift" when I assumed Pooky would literally do the thing they have been doing day 1 all game if mafia.
but I feel like you actually put more focus into Pooky which makes me a tad concerned
In post 1591, MalcolmTucker wrote:What's the Pooky cased based on? I find Pooky hard to read in general and had them null so far.
They're playing to their scum meta and their D1 votes were poor in hindsight
What specifically is Pooky's scum meta? I find them hard to parse in most games but can't recall having actually played with scum Pooky now I think of it.
Lurk early game, power through late game
Hmmm, maybe notable that Pooky's been quieter this turn than they were D1. Been a few slots that could apply to. My view is you and Math has been TvT and therefore it's likely some scum have been lurking in the background to let that play out since it's useful for them.
In conclusion: Sayanara I have no trouble pocketing who I think town is
In post 2797, marcistar wrote:you also said furtives role makes sense for scum to have but look where that wound u up
It absolutely did. It was still the right play to elim furtive because of that and lying. It’s not like I was alone in saying it either. Given the same facts I’d do it again too.
and you dont pause to think
furtives role makes sense as scum yet hes town
so maybe the same thing applies to others?
geez for someone who keeps trying to take mechanical lead you sure are shit at it
I can believe in a town!marci world
I will be honest, I haven't read 1435 but I think it's a decent scumcase on Malcolm and I do like the sort of read on Maria, I felt like Malcolm was suspecting Maria whenever it felt convenient if that makes sense. Like if someone else were scumreading Maria, Malcolm would hop in
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:27 pm
by Cape90
In post 2874, Cape90 wrote:Posts like some of the ones Malcolm pulled up here also just seemed fine to me
when i said this, it was also a lazy read via thinking Malcolm quoted all those things because towny self-confidence and w!Malcolm wouldn't want attention on any of his prior posts if he were wolf.
I know, look at me having ulterior motives behind my posts
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:32 pm
by Titus
Is Lukewarm dead yet?
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 8:14 pm
by MathBlade
I don’t scumread Luke.
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:32 pm
by Enchant
I want to kill Math for reasons, but fuck me i guess.
