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In post 2892, Dannflor wrote:Kitty being town. I don't think SCRRRDBEAR's read of "Kitty doesn't want to let his scum team mates down" really lines up with my experience of Kitty in Turing Test. I feel that at a certain point scum!Kitty just kind of rolled over. Whereas here it seems like he's fighting tooth and nail. I also don't really think it meshes with the meta of Kitty apparently dying D1 as scum very often. I don't think if Kitty consistently has this level of play as scum, that he is very likely to be the D1 elimination in the average lobby.

Beyond that feeling that Kitty's play here is very different from what I know of his scum game, I generally liked how Kitty handled the 1v1 with Alisae. I think it would be very easy for scum!Kitty to kinda hide behind that conflict and spew AtE. I think generally the way he approached that was with still trying to understand Alisae despite uh, being insulted. And I think the tone he responds with, "I know I'm bad but I'm *trying*" or, "if you're town I'm sorry for being incompetent" are generally pretty towny because I would expect scum!Kitty to feign anger or get a lot more defensive. Kitty seems very open to being wrong and overall kinda demoralized that they are being run up. I would not expect this from a scum!Kitty that knows they don't have a great scum game. I think they would understand why they were being run up and also maybe not really care because it seems like they have a lot more fun as town than scum?

I also agree with mistyx's take (I think it was her) that Kitty taking offense over his read accuracy is +town. It's such a small point that doesn't actually matter but is definitely the type of thing town would get hung up on as being Very Important.

And, this might get a laugh out of a few people, despite saying "I'm town" over and over again, I don't really think Kitty is playing to "look town." Or at the very least, they are doing things beyond just appeasing people. They actually seem to care about their reads and pushing what they believe in. I think they believe they are probably to get limmed but want to try anyway, and based on what I've seen of scum!Kitty, I don't think Kitty puts anywhere near this much effort into that if they believe they are in danger of being limmed.

In post 2817, Titus wrote:Look at bear blatantly fishing me after I said I joined the towniest clan. Lol

T3, fire, pp, bear +1

In post 2901, Dannflor wrote:I don't think my reasons for town reading alisae are super good but I don't know what the reasons are for scum!Alisae

do I need to read datisi vs. alisae because I skipped that

In post 2902, Cephrir wrote:VOTE: Titus

In post 2896, Charloux wrote:

In post 2889, Titus wrote: I am not promoting Kitty or Marashu wagons.

So i'm bad for having an opinion outside the "Meta" comfort, but you are town because you don't?
If this isn't it explain to me why me having a personal opinion is bad.

In post 2899, Dannflor wrote:If the wagons are T/T, whoever just tried to start the alisae wagon is probably +town

catboi and fire I think? or catboi and datisi?

In post 2904, Dannflor wrote:

In post 2817, Titus wrote:Look at bear blatantly fishing me after I said I joined the towniest clan. Lol

T3, fire, pp, bear +1

Titus why do all your reads feel so level 0

In post 2910, Charloux wrote:Assuming kitty being scummy is his town play; How would he play as scum then? What sort of stuff should i look for if most of what he does can be interpreted as scummy?

In post 2912, Titus wrote:

In post 2904, Dannflor wrote:

In post 2817, Titus wrote:Look at bear blatantly fishing me after I said I joined the towniest clan. Lol

T3, fire, pp, bear +1

Titus why do all your reads feel so level 0

Level 0?

In post 2914, Dannflor wrote:

In post 2912, Titus wrote:

In post 2904, Dannflor wrote:

In post 2817, Titus wrote:Look at bear blatantly fishing me after I said I joined the towniest clan. Lol

T3, fire, pp, bear +1

Titus why do all your reads feel so level 0

Level 0?

I just feel like you're basing your reads off the first impression or reason you find

like there's just less analysis than I would expect from you in general

In post 2909, Titus wrote:

In post 2896, Charloux wrote:

In post 2889, Titus wrote: I am not promoting Kitty or Marashu wagons.

So i'm bad for having an opinion outside the "Meta" comfort, but you are town because you don't?
If this isn't it explain to me why me having a personal opinion is bad.

It's not. Your coherence was bad. People see things differently. I don't scumread you but I think you're being sheeped for being wrong.

In post 2913, Dannflor wrote:

In post 2910, Charloux wrote:Assuming kitty being scummy is his town play; How would he play as scum then? What sort of stuff should i look for if most of what he does can be interpreted as scummy?

I didn't really say this and I don't think Kitty has been all that scummy this game

In post 2918, Charloux wrote:

In post 2909, Titus wrote:

In post 2896, Charloux wrote:

In post 2889, Titus wrote: I am not promoting Kitty or Marashu wagons.

So i'm bad for having an opinion outside the "Meta" comfort, but you are town because you don't?
If this isn't it explain to me why me having a personal opinion is bad.

It's not. Your coherence was bad. People see things differently. I don't scumread you but I think you're being sheeped for being wrong.

Don't really have a counter-argument with that. People can't judge themselves objectively, and i DO think of myself as below-average skill wise.
But that doesn't mean i should just stay quiet tho. I'll give my opinions of things i take note; Even if most are stupid, i'm certain at least some will make sense