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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:53 am
by Garmr
TheWayItEnds wrote:And I do not believe she made that post regarding alchemist and then did not hide behind him.

I believe she didn't target alchemist

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:55 am
by T S O
There's no way to prevent a Hider from targeting someone; either SG didn't submit an action, there was Bus Driver shenanigans, Doctor shenanigans, or Jason made a mistake. I have been hoping that Jason had made a mistake; however, it appears this is not the case.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:56 am
by TheWayItEnds
Garmr wrote:
TheWayItEnds wrote:She either did not hide. Was somehow prevented from hiding. Or hid behind the person targeted by the mafia kill and they were prevented from dying and she was not.

Are you deaf hiders can't even be targeted by any night actions


and if this was a normal that would be the end of it.

but because its not.................

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:56 am
by T S O
What are you suggesting?

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:59 am
by T S O
I'll be furious if Gwen -didn't- submit an action, but I feel that is incredibly unlikely, so I'm going to discount it as a possibility.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:00 am
by TheWayItEnds
im suggesting that all of the suggested reasons for sg being dead dont do a good enough job of explaining it.

and the only thing left we have to do is wild speculation and move on.

so i did both.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:00 am
by PeregrineV
TheWayItEnds wrote:
Jason

If a hider hid behind a person who was targeted for the night kill and the person she hid behind was doc protected, what would happen to the hider?


I think this will answer it.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:01 am
by T S O
So the only possible solution appears to be a Doctor, unfortunately.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:02 am
by T S O
I disagree - I think there's still value in thrashing this out, especially given the long time period given for this day.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:03 am
by Garmr
T S O wrote:So the only possible solution appears to be a Doctor, unfortunately.

Or jail keeper it make more sense because alchemist was scummy

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:05 am
by TheWayItEnds
not really?

her kill flavor isnt "i died because i found scum"

so if she did hide, smart money is on it being behind alch, who would then be conftown if we hadnt already lynched him.

i think theres no value here.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:10 am
by PeregrineV
TheWayItEnds wrote:not really?

her kill flavor isnt "i died because i found scum"

so if she did hide, smart money is on it being behind alch, who would then be conftown if we hadnt already lynched him.

i think theres no value here.


Final word from Jason will confirm, but I think it's some form of this.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:58 am
by Varsoon

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:05 am
by Aneninen
This year is starting out with very little free time for me. The drop you'll experience in my activity is not a tell in itself. Thank you for understanding.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:10 am
by Shiro
reading gwen ISO

Her top scumreads other than dapper were

Random,Anen and Eagle

She said that anen can be sorted later so we can strike him out I think.

Any chance he hid behind eagle or random?

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:17 am
by PeregrineV
Shiro wrote:reading gwen ISO

Her top scumreads other than dapper were

Random,Anen and Eagle

She said that anen can be sorted later so we can strike him out I think.

Any chance he hid behind eagle or random?


Your better off quoting the posts.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:29 am
by Aneninen
Okay, I'm willing to sheep the bigger bird Today.

VOTE: ErrantParabola

I'll try to catch-up too.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:31 am
by T S O
You realise the large issue with the scenario you're presenting, TWIE?

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:32 am
by T S O
Can you summarise why you're voting Errant? Because Eagle hasn't either. So it seems interesting that you're sheeping a non-existent case.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:34 am
by Shiro
Spider Gwen wrote:Oh look! That horrible horrible Spiffy case! Is Stranger still denying the underlying motivation and thought here? And poking and prodding people, asking them questions, and overall trying to figure out where they're at never is, never has, and never will be scummy.

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@Eagle: If Elyse is your biggest scumread, why did you vote for a case that depends on Elyse being town?

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Randomnamechange wrote:
Spifflop - dapper's reasoning basically. He made some good points. Scum


Does anybody seriously think this is a town vote? These were the type of votes on the Spiffy wagon. There's no way that was a town wagon.

Spider Gwen wrote:
TheWayItEnds wrote:
Spider Gwen wrote:@Anen: Was something supposed to happen?


your character name was supposed to change.

ask jason to reconfirm your char name?


I didn't get a PM. I can double check to see if the change happened, but I find it strange that the mod wouldn't inform me.

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Randomnamechange wrote:I think spider Gwen is town based off of anen's ability as she is alive. If that is the case my apologies for scumresding you yesterday gwen.
T S O wrote:I propose we lynch in the pool of {Alchemist, random, grapes} today, seeing as that was Spifflop's pool of scum.

Spifflop said not to lynch me as I'd sort myself out over time...


I want to lynch either this or Stranger.

Those were about random which does show a strong scumread compared to anything else(dapper took most of her time)

Eagle is more of a general feel I got from when she was fighting him and dapper with Titus.

I could be wrong about Anen now that I rechecked.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:42 am
by Aneninen
T S O wrote:Can you summarise why you're voting Errant?1 Because Eagle hasn't either.2 So it seems interesting that you're sheeping a non-existent case.3

1. I could if I wanted to.
2. He's doing so.
3. Wrong.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:53 am
by TheWayItEnds
We arent lynching EP, hes town.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:59 am
by Aneninen
TheWayItEnds wrote:We arent lynching EP, hes town.

Tell me something interesting so that I can believe you.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:10 pm
by Aneninen
Elyse wrote:I'm trusting everyone else who says random is town for now.

Why?

T S O wrote:So Gwen targeted someone she was scumreading. I wonder who sees where I'm going with this.

Let's say, I believe you. Are we getting to somewhere?

Passionate Storm wrote:
PeregrineV wrote:My activity is my vote today.

Vote: Alchemist

PeregrineV wrote:
TheWayItEnds wrote:
Spider Gwen wrote:@Stormy: A reread of Alch wouldn't hurt. I know I haven't gotten much from his play. You might be able to see things I can't.

this post says, and i quote
"I will be hiding behind alchemist tonight"

It could have been more clear IMO, but it's a start.
Vote: Alchemist

Fakey fakey. You helped lynch Alch, I doubt you forgot.
You otherwise only voted Spifflop town counter to Klingon.
VOTE: PV
Off to work.

LOLOLOLOLOL!
If Errant's not happening for some silly reason, here's another great idea.

Shiro wrote:reading gwen ISO
Her top scumreads other than dapper were
Random,Anen and Eagle
She said that anen can be sorted later so we can strike him out I think.
Any chance he hid behind eagle or random?

Random, maybe...

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:39 pm
by Garmr
There's so much wifom with the hider claim unless someone finds a crumb on who she his behind we should lynch scum aka eagle I have the best case on him out of any cases present today. Also his a common scu m 4ead but always side lined. We should of lynched him before but you guys were like nooo