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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:58 am
by Varsoon
I think you're both scum.
If you're not scum, then RCE definitely is.
What about that don't you get?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:59 am
by Varsoon
We were discussing scum on the Clem wagon.
Cheeky says "I think Buj is town."
I respond that if you're not scum on the Clem wagon, then RCE definitely is.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:00 am
by Nero Cain
In post 2906, profii wrote:I feel like nero is more salty / fighty when he's scum
I've actually been trying to eat less sodium.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:01 am
by BuJaber
I was kinda leaning town for Gamma d1 coz he seemed like he wasn't putting much effort in like his most recent games... but I'm rethinking that now after reading Cheeky's case

Pedit - I don't get the conditional. Why does the RCE scumread become stronger upon my flip?


Pedit 2 - That's what was missing

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:16 am
by BuJaber
I want to lynch DGB today. Worst case is she's a veng that's doing nothing while alive. Because even if she isn't scum like I suspect she hasn't done anything pro-town the whole game.
VOTE: DrippingGoofball .. epic name.. can't believe I haven't noticed you in a whole year that I've been here.

We should look at creature voters also. Especially after he posted. Now that he's playing d2 and chick/clem flipped scum I'm pretty confident he's town. Scum probably saw an opportunity for easy lynch.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:41 am
by Wisdom
bu no we aren't doing that
dont make me worry

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:47 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 2870, RCEnigma wrote:List of people I want to shoot this second:
DGB
Nero
FL (or Hebi)

People I want to shoot but not this second:
RR
Varsoon
This guy is good, you should listen to him.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:49 am
by Varsoon
Yeah aight suffer not the DGB to live
VOTE: DGB

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:54 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 2929, BuJaber wrote:I want to lynch DGB today. Worst case is she's a veng that's doing nothing while alive. Because even if she isn't scum like I suspect she hasn't done anything pro-town the whole game.
VOTE: DrippingGoofball .. epic name.. can't believe I haven't noticed you in a whole year that I've been here.
Right? You seem to know I'm town but you want to lynch me as a top priority. That's the spirit, more people should do like you.

For posterity, just so no one says I've done nothing in the game, I give you this hot tip for later: 80% of the scum is on the Clemency wagon, because there's nothing like multiball to make the scum anxious to put someone in the noose, because they can claim towncred if the wagon is on a buddy, or even better... if the wagon turns up to be a scum from the other team.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:55 am
by Varsoon
VOTE: ReasonablyRational

That's all I wanted, DGB
That good good analysis and postin
Do more'a that
Make your joindate proud

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:56 am
by DrippingGoofball
Town should mow down the Clemency voters like Pacman.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:57 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 2934, Varsoon wrote:VOTE: ReasonablyRational

That's all I wanted, DGB
That good good analysis and postin
Do more'a that
Make your joindate proud
Nooooooooooooooooo it's a really dumb post only a scum could have made.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:00 am
by Varsoon
Mmm?
Do I need to keep voting you to get you to keep playing?
I don't understand.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:03 am
by DrippingGoofball
No, I want to be lynched.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:06 am
by Varsoon
I kinda want to lynch scum, though.
But I think I get it.
VOTE: DGB

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:07 am
by Varsoon
Or, ideally, third paRRty

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:14 am
by Creature
VOTE: Reasonably Rational

Let's get spicy

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:29 am
by Almost50
In post 2767, pinturicchio wrote:
mod, I'll be on V/LA until Thursday/Friday since I'm having cirgury tomorrow morning
Noted. Get well soon, my friend.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:30 am
by BuJaber
@DGB - By saying "even if you're not scum like I suspect" I mean "even if you're not scum like I suspect you are [scum]". Obvious if you've been here reading my posts. But as long as you're advocating for more votes on you we're good you and I.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:58 am
by DrewVa
In post 2910, Reasonably Rational wrote:DrewVa:How can you read my posts at the start of the day and conclude I was townreading Toog?

Majiffy tmi point by Tails is valid. Nero hasn't done a whole lot to make me think differently.

Bujaber wagon was senseless, but being the counter to scum is meaningless in multiball. We can say there's a good chance he's not on the same team as clem, bu that's it, and even that's weak given that in multiball there would be diffusion of scum force pushing for/against certain wagon, so how hard it was to get the hammer on a scum slot means less.

Whoever mentioned the chickadee post to me:Ignored because it didn't have any content and was....well, basically a post I'd expect her to make regardless of alignment given our past interactions out of game.
-Cerb
You’re correct. You said to Toogeloo, “if you’re town” here, or words to that effect. However, encouraging someone to prove they’re town by voting - to spare town a lynch or words to that effect - believing that such action will lead to their being modkilled - looks really bad and while your after the fact explanation - that being Toogeloo’s modkill reads townie, there is no way to determine if it is just spin, because
you didn’t say it until after he had been already modkilled.


I recall that Drixx had earlier advised me, earlier on D1 to get our slot NK’d if we were town. The obvious difference between the two, is that we have 0 control over that but you had every reason to believe that Toogeloo could be modkilled by voting anything other than the hammer and yet, you still pushed him to vote. And I will stress again, you never - until after the fact - specified you meant hammer.

Another thing that is pinging me about you, is that at the EOD 1, you jumped on me for suggesting Toogeloo confirm his role by hammering by accusing me of somehow being too confident on this but today, you said that I lacked the confidence to push for a Toogeloo lynch. That seemed like a contradiction to me. If you view me as a player, who lacks confidence in their reads, than your EOD 1 jumping on me for advocating Toogeloo hammer, seems disingenuous.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:07 am
by DrewVa
In post 2471, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 2469, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2466, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 2465, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2463, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 2460, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2455, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2451, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2448, Gamma Emerald wrote:How do you verify Toog without him getting modkilled :shifty:
He doesn’t, so long as he’s the hammer, if I’m understanding his role correctly.

I suppose it’s fine for now but whenever we can confirm a slot, it’s always a good thing, no?
How does that confirm him though? That just means he can cast the hammer vote, not that he can’t cast any other votes.
Well, I just thought hammering would confirm him. \_0_/
How do you arrive at that conclusion? Seriously. Tell me what you thought Toog's role was, and what line of reasoning led you to that conclusion.

-Cerb
He’s an actor, right? So, hammering doesn’t confirm like with priest?
You're asking me questions. I'm not here to explain this to you. I'm here to figure out why/how you believed what you believed.

-Cerb
I obviously need those questions answered first.
If you didn't know the answer to those questions,
how did you have such certainty that it was VERY IMPORTANT that the hammer be saved for Toog?


-Cerb
In post 2581, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 2555, pinturicchio wrote:Why would a scum self hammer to prevent his partner from hammering. That makes no sense
Because it makes you ask that question. There is now the appearance that scum was concerned about Toog's role claim. Others already inferred it might be a hammer powered role of some kind instead of specifically (or only) what Toog claimed.

Then there's Chick's post that Cerb quoted which is all kinds of bad. It's one of two things:

1.) An intentional red herring from Chickadee

OR

2.) Failed WiFoM by Chickadee

Raw probabilities vastly favor #2.

Since we've already gotten one person literally chainsawing Toog and attacking the idea that Chick accidentally linked to a partner (despite my intentional withholding of our reasoning for now) ... I think I'll see how much more hole gets dug.

Suffice it to say that I'm pretty sure Toog is scum here. The reasoning is sound.
Nancy picked up on it and just needs to be more confident.


~D
Re: the bolded. So,which is it? Am I over or underconfident with my reads?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:10 am
by DrewVa
In post 2927, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2906, profii wrote:I feel like nero is more salty / fighty when he's scum
I've actually been trying to eat less sodium.
:lol:

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:13 am
by DrewVa
In post 2933, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2929, BuJaber wrote:I want to lynch DGB today. Worst case is she's a veng that's doing nothing while alive. Because even if she isn't scum like I suspect she hasn't done anything pro-town the whole game.
VOTE: DrippingGoofball .. epic name.. can't believe I haven't noticed you in a whole year that I've been here.
Right? You seem to know I'm town but you want to lynch me as a top priority. That's the spirit, more people should do like you.

For posterity, just so no one says I've done nothing in the game, I give you this hot tip for later: 80% of the scum is on the Clemency wagon, because there's nothing like multiball to make the scum anxious to put someone in the noose, because they can claim towncred if the wagon is on a buddy, or even better... if the wagon turns up to be a scum from the other team.
80%? :lol:

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:17 am
by DrewVa
P.edit. I sense a possible trap with voting this wagon. If DGB isn’t jester, she could maybe be a vengeful or,supersaint possibly? Any rate, I don’t see why scum does this and I’m staying tf clear.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:21 am
by DrewVa
In post 2939, Varsoon wrote:I kinda want to lynch scum, though.
But I think I get it.
VOTE: DGB
In post 2940, Varsoon wrote:Or, ideally, third paRRty
Why is lynching 3Ps more ideal than lynching mafia? I just want to lynch scum.