Mini Normal 2046: Autumn's Farewell [Endgame]

[Moongrass]

moongrass you do see that varsoon is relatively likely town due to his claim and role, right. do you think oka's resistance to this idea is scum-death-tunnel or town-oka being dense?

This isn't town Oka. Town!Oka isn't dense, nor very confident in his reads.

[OkaPoka]

mbaki has no excuse now

and ddl + moongrass promised to read it so

@creature against a traitor setup? i think thats ok

[OkaPoka]

moongrass you do see that varsoon is relatively likely town due to his claim and role, right. do you think oka's resistance to this idea is scum-death-tunnel or town-oka being dense?

This isn't town Oka. Town!Oka isn't dense, nor very confident in his reads.

[citation needed]

[Moongrass]

moongrass you do see that varsoon is relatively likely town due to his claim and role, right. do you think oka's resistance to this idea is scum-death-tunnel or town-oka being dense?

This isn't town Oka. Town!Oka isn't dense, nor very confident in his reads.

[citation needed]

xx

[mbaki]

I don't buy that Oka/mbaki can't be buddies. Oka posts a lot, and often with his team. mbaki omguses you SOD as an excuse not to vote anyone else. Oka tunnels Varsoon for similar reasons. I can see it, and I'm pretty sure Oka is using his case being rejected to cover his frozen behavior at this stage.

In the interest of complete disclosure, I also tend to theatre a lot as scum, and a lot means interacting with teammates about as much as I do with townies.

I don't think our day 2 interactions can be scum vs scum, but that's a discussion I'll deal with happily if Oka is lynched and flips scum.

[mbaki]

mbaki has no excuse now

and ddl + moongrass promised to read it so

@creature against a traitor setup? i think thats ok

You're right, I do owe it a read.

[mbaki]

moongrass you do see that varsoon is relatively likely town due to his claim and role, right. do you think oka's resistance to this idea is scum-death-tunnel or town-oka being dense?

This isn't town Oka. Town!Oka isn't dense, nor very confident in his reads.

[citation needed]

Can you show a town game where you case in a similar manner and confidence?

[OkaPoka]

fwiw the titles of my next two parts were going to be

rage Rage RAGE

and

An Unexpected Journey

[Moongrass]

I don't think our day 2 interactions can be scum vs scum

Why?

[DrDolittle]

Do you think follower + voyeur + ascetic + 2-shot commuter would be sufficient power for town?

Idts

[OkaPoka]

moongrass you do see that varsoon is relatively likely town due to his claim and role, right. do you think oka's resistance to this idea is scum-death-tunnel or town-oka being dense?

This isn't town Oka. Town!Oka isn't dense, nor very confident in his reads.

[citation needed]

Can you show a town game where you case in a similar manner and confidence?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=76814

Don't be an asshole please and judgmental thanks
xoxo

[OkaPoka]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=76645

oh this one was with not_mafia

[DrDolittle]

Can you show a town game where you case in a similar manner and confidence?

FWIW I played a game with oka town where i recall he was pretty confident

[OkaPoka]

confidence of reads depends on context of games tho really

im not confident every game

[OkaPoka]

all about context

[mbaki]

I don't think our day 2 interactions can be scum vs scum

Why?

The amount of emotion I had towards Oka, I don't think I could fake that as scum. Oka's reasons for pushing me almost got me lynched there, and he had nothing to do with my wagon dissipating either if I recall he was still voting me last, so in the world where we are buddies he went for a super emotional hard bus day 2 after shooting a teammate. Also, he pushed me based on traitor crumbs, which is not something he can change his mind on so it has to be a committed bus.

[mbaki]

Do you think follower + voyeur + ascetic + 2-shot commuter would be sufficient power for town?

Idts

I agree too. Especially because ascetic is negative utility (arguably, for this setup) and commuter is very close to 0.

moongrass you do see that varsoon is relatively likely town due to his claim and role, right. do you think oka's resistance to this idea is scum-death-tunnel or town-oka being dense?

This isn't town Oka. Town!Oka isn't dense, nor very confident in his reads.

[citation needed]

Can you show a town game where you case in a similar manner and confidence?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=76814

Don't be an asshole please and judgmental thanks
xoxo

How is that question judgmental man, its game related.

[DrDolittle]

Do you think follower + voyeur + ascetic + 2-shot commuter would be sufficient power for town?

Idts

But I'm also not NRG so maybe someone with more exp can chime in. In particular recall that means varsoon is a nonscum goon

[DrDolittle]

I mean non vanilla goon

[OkaPoka]

Let's start working towards consensus?

First step is having everyone read my three walls so we can work from there.

@mbaki if u read that game u will understand

[OkaPoka]

I guess, don't let my questionable judgement that game affect how you perceive my reads this game because I feel like I evolved read-wise a lot since then

[Creature]

First step is having everyone read my three walls so we can work from there.

The problem is mostly the setup spec: it feels like town is underpowered without Varsoon's role.

[OkaPoka]

Yeah

but his play has been really scummy?

[mbaki]

First step is having everyone read my three walls so we can work from there.

The problem is mostly the setup spec: it feels like town is underpowered without Varsoon's role.

This, and I believe commuter and ascetic are unlikely to be town, and I town read Creature's play more than yours, and his role is a little bit townier too.

@Moongrass, Oka looks pretty similar ish to this game there? As in, I don't see a huge lack of confidence that would be a giveaway. I gave it a quick skim though, I might read it a bit more in depth if I have time.

[Creature]

Yeah

but his play has been really scummy?

Yeah and I've already seen him pulling some weird PR play as scum.