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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:00 am
by Menalque
aside from everything else, glad to hear you're doing okay, ducky

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:00 am
by Menalque
does anyone have a reason why lilith shouldn't die today?

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:02 am
by Menalque
as far as I'm concerned right now the pool is (Best Bird, peta, Dave, hoopla, NM, lilith, infinity) and you earn your way out

I'm trusting skitt on S_S along with my initial read there

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:03 am
by Menalque
I also think skitt is fairly solidly accurate as town, she thought lilith was scum, she's dead now

I also think that lilith, who knows me and skitt, might have been keeping her alive so long as we were in conflict/sceptical, and she's now dead because we'd got to the point where we were actually coming together and townreading each other

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:03 am
by Menalque
regardless, lilith should die today unless there's like, a really good reason not to do that

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:03 am
by Something_Smart
If scum are most of the way done figuring out the setup and we have no clue, wouldn't a massclaim help us more?

The cop should claim today for sure.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:03 am
by Menalque
fyi, "she claimed JK" is no longer a good reason, for anyone wanting that

although, lilith, you do still need to claim your JK

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:04 am
by Menalque
In post 2930, Something_Smart wrote:If scum are most of the way done figuring out the setup and we have no clue, wouldn't a massclaim help us more?

The cop should claim today for sure.
I will defer to you on this, but I'm not persuaded for all the reasons I gave

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:05 am
by Menalque
it's cop, watcher, doctor, neighbouriser who are unclaimed

do you think any aside from the cop should claim, S_S?

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:06 am
by Menalque
and before anyone claims "TMI!?!??!?!?!!!!!!" about me saying watcher -- I'm just using it as shorthand for the slot and I'm assuming that most people would choose watcher

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:06 am
by Infinity 324
VOTE: lilith I’ll let other people figure out the massclaim stuff. Lilith definitely needs to die.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:13 am
by petapan
In post 2930, Something_Smart wrote:If scum are most of the way done figuring out the setup and we have no clue, wouldn't a massclaim help us more?

The cop should claim today for sure.
i feel like the cop role is very likely in scum's hands which is why i want people to have to out and not just kill lilith

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:13 am
by Menalque
good vote but you're still back in the scumpool for now

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:14 am
by Menalque
In post 2936, petapan wrote:i feel like the cop role is very likely in scum's hands
why?

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:15 am
by Menalque
ugh, skitt, why didn't u activate ur PGO last night?

was it because of dunn pushing for a cop check on you?

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:16 am
by Menalque
In post 2887, skitter30 wrote:my strong towns are mena and ss

i'm still weakly townreding infinity

everyone else is in my pool on some level, esp. if dunn is town
In post 2898, skitter30 wrote:my key takeaway, of course being, that lilith is still scum unless dunn is exactly mafia goon

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:17 am
by petapan
because everyone who could be a cop has posted and none of them are playing like they're a cop

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:17 am
by Infinity 324
Wonder if skitter dying today means bird is scum here, as she was starting to come around on him being scum. May be a bit obvious, but definitely a possibility.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:21 am
by Menalque
I'm actually really starting to scumread you again infinity and it's literally only skitter calling you town that is stopping me

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:22 am
by Menalque
which is then added wine, because would you kill her as one of the main people supporting you!town?

I think if lilith is scum maybe not, but if lilith flips town then it's not an awful play for scum!you at all

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:23 am
by Menalque
I'm not saying this IS what happened btw, and anyone trying to use this argument tomorrow if I'm dead should be super sceptical of the person making it -- but I do see a world where you note my desire to deadsheep players, kill skitter to frame lilith + lock in her TR on you, then kill me before I can tunnel you the next day

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:23 am
by Menalque
but I'm definitely considering it

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:24 am
by Menalque
lilith is at L-3 but de-facto it's L-2 because Not_Mafia, so one more vote max pls

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:32 am
by Infinity 324
My solve is {bird, n_m, lilith}.

Hoopla has talked enough about her play that I actually have something resembling a soulread on her, and I don't think she's ever scum here.

I also have gut townreads on peta and s_s. I want to trust skitter's TR on s_s.

Mena I'll only consider if there's no doc. There are a couple things that give me paranoia here (I have a feeling scum are pretty confident in this gamestate is one) but I think he deserves a scummy if scum for how he played after the guilty.

Not really feeling dave!scum but maybe? I have a feeling he's being set up to be the next mislim.

PEdit: mena I'm going into solve mode now if it helps your read on me. I got a lot less busy over the past couple days.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:43 am
by Menalque
I don't think bird and NM are ever scum together because I don't think JV is a meme-y enough player to take 4 with his scumbuddy

I strongly suspect davesaz would be in place of one of NM/JV if lilith is correct