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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:06 pm
by SirCakez
I am open to the argument that Pooky is town because of his day 2 play but people going "but his meta this is town ;( ;( ;(" pisses me off because that day 1 was truly terrible

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:09 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 2922, SirCakez wrote:why did you only open with your attacks on me when I was bringing you up as scum? multiple times I mentioned I thought you were scummy and within hours you dropped it to call me scum.
I already explained this:




I challenged you to lay out your suspicions

when you didn't I called you scum for being unable to lay out a case on me -> because you not backing up your pot shots with substance makes me think you are not being real about it.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:09 pm
by SirCakez
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=85257
Here read his ISO in this game
It has the same jokey tone but he's actually trying here

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:10 pm
by GreyICE
I've been following along. I was writing something up, but I got distracted by some other stuff that cropped up today.

Also I posted literally 49 hours ago. Don't get your tits in a twist.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:10 pm
by SirCakez
In post 2926, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2922, SirCakez wrote:why did you only open with your attacks on me when I was bringing you up as scum? multiple times I mentioned I thought you were scummy and within hours you dropped it to call me scum.
I already explained this:




I challenged you to lay out your suspicions

when you didn't I called you scum for being unable to lay out a case on me -> because you not backing up your pot shots with substance makes me think you are not being real about it.
you were calling me scum long before that post though?

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:11 pm
by SirCakez
In post 1182, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:but yea kick cakeboi's scum ass

go go go
In post 1275, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:cuz he's not actually interested

its fake busywork
In post 1434, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I also want to kill cakez regardless of what Titus flips
a sample

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:12 pm
by SirCakez
after reviewing Legends of Hidden Temple I can accept the fluffiness and buddying is pretty NAI
but his absolute lack of original scumhunting, his terrible push on me, and his bad interactions with Mastina all still hold from my case

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:13 pm
by Prism
In post 2865, SirCakez wrote:THESIS
Pooky's entire day 1 strategy revolved around buddying people and coasting until he got pressure from me for it. After that point, he dedicated the rest of his day to an essentially OMGUS push on me INCLUDING SIGNIFICANTLY AT THE KEY POINT WHERE IT WAS EITHER MASTINA OR I WHO WAS GOING TO BE ELIMMED.
He did not perform ANY original scumhunting day 1 - all of his pushes day 1 consist of either sheeping or attacking people who attacked him.
He used being leashed to LLD as an excuse to not take responsibility for his vote.
He repeatedly expressed fake-ass indignation that anyone could be scumreading him - despite all of the above.
This game is halfway between the buddying all day/virtually nothing of substance all game long of 2181 and the aggression of Flavor Leaf v. Hectic

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:14 pm
by Prism
In post 2928, GreyICE wrote:I've been following along. I was writing something up, but I got distracted by some other stuff that cropped up today.

Also I posted literally 49 hours ago. Don't get your tits in a twist.
Sorry Grey, I'm just really looking forward to it! It's mean to keep me waiting!!!

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:14 pm
by SirCakez
In post 2932, Prism wrote:
In post 2865, SirCakez wrote:THESIS
Pooky's entire day 1 strategy revolved around buddying people and coasting until he got pressure from me for it. After that point, he dedicated the rest of his day to an essentially OMGUS push on me INCLUDING SIGNIFICANTLY AT THE KEY POINT WHERE IT WAS EITHER MASTINA OR I WHO WAS GOING TO BE ELIMMED.
He did not perform ANY original scumhunting day 1 - all of his pushes day 1 consist of either sheeping or attacking people who attacked him.
He used being leashed to LLD as an excuse to not take responsibility for his vote.
He repeatedly expressed fake-ass indignation that anyone could be scumreading him - despite all of the above.
This game is halfway between the buddying all day/virtually nothing of substance all game long of 2181 and the aggression of Flavor Leaf v. Hectic
I will dive this meta tonight thanks

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:16 pm
by Prism
I am bad at this whole "Don't play mafia for a day" thing

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:16 pm
by SirCakez
its addictive Prism
MS is the dealer

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:17 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 2925, SirCakez wrote:day 1 was truly terrible
Do you want to punish me for not playing mafia the way you think is "not terrible" or do you actually want to catch scum?

because there's a pretty big line between playing in a scum motivated way and playing in a way that is bad for the town.

Have you actually sat down and really thought about what I did and what my motivations are from a town/scum POV?

Like really sit down and think about it.

for example leashing my vote to LLD.

This isn't something I came up with, LLD told me to do this, so I did it.

Have you thought about why I did it?

Have you thought about why LLD asked me in the first place?

From what you have laid out in your case - you are saying that I am purposefully choosing to duck responsibility by hiding behind LLD - a claimed mason with thread control and artifacts and hence by definition more information than me.

Ok but if that's your thought, why the fuck are you trying to kill me for it? Why don't you fucking ask LLD to not leash my vote? Why don't you tell her that this action is anti-town and is going to make me harder to read?

Like if you think this is actually going to help scum Pooky hide or something, why don't you tell the person who leashed me to unleash me?

You want to kill me for no original scum hunting/leashed to LLD, but you won't fucking tell LLD that her leashing me is anti-town? Seems like you want to pick on what you think is the easier target.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:18 pm
by SirCakez
can you show me where LLD told you to do that because I didn't see it during the case production
if LLD told you to do it it changes things

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:18 pm
by SirCakez
my impression was it was just something you "declared" yourself

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:20 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 2929, SirCakez wrote:you were calling me scum long before that post though?
this back and forth is wasting a lot of posts

what exactly are you trying to say?

I have been taking pot shots at you, you've been taking pot shots at me.

What's your point?

My pot shots are all desperate omgus of a scumbag who is scared of this solo cake push?

your pot shots are all as beautiful pure and innocent as the never driven snow?

like seriously wtf r u even trying to say dude?

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:21 pm
by SirCakez
never mind then let's move on
now that the "case" is dropped no one can bug me about it anymore

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:22 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 464, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Vote: Mathblade


Pooky get your ass over here or I'm shooting you.
In post 1099, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:someone talk to me about the game, something interesting and fresh.

Also, Pooky got my back so he better not vote anywhere I don't vote.

I'm watching you bear. That foam finger should have my face on it.

are you serious Cakez

did you not read the part where she leashed me..

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:23 pm
by SirCakez
In post 2942, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 464, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Vote: Mathblade


Pooky get your ass over here or I'm shooting you.
In post 1099, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:someone talk to me about the game, something interesting and fresh.

Also, Pooky got my back so he better not vote anywhere I don't vote.

I'm watching you bear. That foam finger should have my face on it.

are you serious Cakez

did you not read the part where she leashed me..
I saw the "get your ass over here" post but I didn't interpret it as a "leashing"
I was expecting something more formal than this

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:27 pm
by SirCakez
reads basically like a joke to me

it's ok let's just move on I think I misunderstood the situation

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:31 pm
by Prism
Why are both of you voting Titus and what will it take to get you to vote one of GI/DGB?

Pooky I know yours was related to the soft defense; I think there's a lot of WIFOM involved and I can see Titus being scum but for now I still townlean the slot for the reason given by Bell (mastina likely whiteknighting town slot)

Complete mystery for Cakez atm and don't want to track it

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:33 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2928, GreyICE wrote:I've been following along. I was writing something up, but I got distracted by some other stuff that cropped up today.

Also I posted literally 49 hours ago. Don't get your tits in a twist.
Can you like not please? I townread you but please stop using body parts as slang. I am struggling to contain my anger as it is. I get people are being mean poking you but please stop saying things like this.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:35 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
VOTE: noone

I'll re-evaluate both slots tonight Prism.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:35 pm
by SirCakez
In post 2945, Prism wrote:Why are both of you voting Titus and what will it take to get you to vote one of GI/DGB?

Pooky I know yours was related to the soft defense; I think there's a lot of WIFOM involved and I can see Titus being scum but for now I still townlean the slot for the reason given by Bell (mastina likely whiteknighting town slot)

Complete mystery for Cakez atm and don't want to track it
Titus just keeps making bad posts and has not evolved since day 1 (unlike Pooky)
Also I think Titus is more likely to go through then the two you named
I still do not understand the GI scumreads

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:23 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 2947, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:VOTE: noone

I'll re-evaluate both slots tonight Prism.
It may be hard for you to evaluate from your perspective, but from mine, SirCakez is town for the way he's pushing regardless of your alignment. So please set it aside and contribute in other ways because I find you hard to read enough as it is, it's impossible if all you do is push back against SirCakez.