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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:50 pm
by Flea The Magician
VOTE: A50

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:03 pm
by Not_Mafia
VC 5.01
Flea The Magician (0)-

VFP (0)-

RLotus (0)-

clidd (0)-

Almost50 (1)-
Flea The Magician

Not Voting (4)-
VFP, RLotus, clidd, Almost50

With
5
alive, it takes
3
to Eliminate.

Deadline is
(expired on 2021-04-26 19:30:00)
- Apr 26th 19:30 GMT

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:35 am
by VFP
A50 give some thoughts on the game?
The alternative lim to you today would be Flea but your post makes it sound like you know they are flipping town.

Unless you think I'm the 3rd scum?

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:53 am
by clidd
Alright, thanks for the answers Flea.

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:07 am
by clidd
is a50 indirectly scumclaiming or ..

mabyw3 apathrtic town ..

why would he act like thst, seriously .

Image

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:12 am
by clidd
In post 2054, Almost50 wrote:First and foremost, I apologize for flaking after having replaced-in. As embarrassing as it is, I actually did post once but forgot to SUBSCRIBE THE THREAD. I thus didn't see it being updated on my list of subscribed topics and I totally forgot I was in this game. :oops:
but he posted before this post, which means that he had the ego thing on his "view your posts"

why is "subscribe" more important here(?)

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:13 am
by clidd
In post 2065, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2056, clidd wrote:Flea is probably town who was tunneled on town and hardpushing it (not the first time I see happening).

But this is likely scum by play:

VOTE: Almost50

Unless there is a mechanical reason that says otherwise.
Is it... is it my smell?? I can't help smelling of bananas. :cry:
meh

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:15 am
by clidd
In post 2066, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2063, clidd wrote:Almost50, specifically, was the worst since after entering he made no attempt to engage with the game (while active in other games)
Dafuq?! What part of I FORGOT TO SUBSCRIBE TO THREAD did you miss? I am playing in multiple games, and am following a few more (not gonna specify what or why so as not to be borderline breaking the rules), so I have a total of 14 active threads and 16 inactive/dead on my subscriptions currently. I sure as hell wouldn't notice if one went inactive for a couple of days, and even more so if one -that I had just joined- was missing altogether. I only remembered it as N_M prodded me during the night phase.
hum, ok

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:18 am
by clidd
the rest of his ISO has no gamesolve, just fillers, mech things and "I'll sheep Pooky".

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:23 am
by clidd
i mean, he's a blank slot with bad predecessors.

the fact that he's not willing to try as a "tpr" is basically scumsiding. i'm not sure how we're supposed to see the "light" if he doesn't help himself (and he probably should know that)

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:36 am
by clidd
actually, i don't need a reread on Flea.

fae is very likely scum if a50 is town.

thinking about it again, lotus is towny by play and mech (kind of clear too)

which leaves vfp and flea

vfp did loads of "helping the game"

flea also did a few things, but fae scumsided for two days before eliminating Titus, what makes faer slot look worse than vfp

so i'm fine with a a50>flea elim, like Lotus and Vfp said.

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:37 am
by clidd
and fae last answers are "meh", not buying

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:43 am
by clidd
if vfp is scum, he played well

I'm fine losing to good scumplay

but losing to scum!flea, who is looking bad after the scumflips, is vexatious

so yeah, it is what it is

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:45 am
by clidd
if i'm here on d6, I'll for sure reanalyze everything I already know before I conclude anything

but my mind will be always leaning Flea anyways

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:01 am
by clidd
assuming that the game does not end today, of course

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:54 am
by Flea The Magician
Then take me out today.
What information do you gain?

A50 or VFP is left, who do you go for?

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:37 am
by clidd
The info that your interaction with Vfp was not in bad faith (and a huge cognitive relief by PoE).

This would also give more credibility to your read on Vfp for supposedly manipulative behavior, although this does not say whether the read is correct or not, but rather that it was formulated from a town perspective (which would make me pay more attention to the theory and evaluate it before proceeding to a future elimination of a50, assuming a townflip scenario on you today).

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:41 am
by clidd
And, well, the information would basically be available to other players, so I don't have to necessarily be the person making this assessment (in case I get killed during the night).

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:44 am
by clidd
But I'm leaning on eliminating a50 today, as he's more scummy than you in general (and more likely to be scum).

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:51 am
by clidd
In post 2756, clidd wrote:I'm thinking about Titus + A50 as a solve (by play).

But with you two arguing now, I’m confused.
This is something that I was already working with as a solve before Titus being eliminated ^

The discussion between you and Vfp, however, was strange if it were a TvT. But if I had to guess the scum side, in a TvS scenario, you were the most scummy part of the interaction.

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:57 am
by clidd
Spoiler:
In post 2607, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 2585, clidd wrote:
In post 2472, Titus wrote:@clidd, Calling something bad without presenting anything of your own is a common, but not universal, scum tactic. VCA is a tool available for everyone but weak this early. How does Faer's vca help you read him but the inverse wouldn't be true?
Extremely political comment. The question is formulated in bad faith, because at no time had I said that Flea's vca was essential for me to read fae.
I'm going to extend this back to you, in that many of your "questions" and your criticisms were in bad faith.
In post 2608, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 2586, clidd wrote:
In post 2466, Titus wrote:
In post 2464, clidd wrote:It feels like Flea is trying to make me vote faer for some reason.
Why do you feel like that?
"instead or asking what is clidd's read on flea, or what flea's read is on clidd, let me ask something that it won't help me sort clidd to create a spark"
FOr example this is a legitimate question I'm interested in seeing and answer to, and your non-response is bad faith smoke and mirrors.
In post 2609, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 2592, clidd wrote:
In post 2533, Titus wrote: @clidd, If you're town, actually make me want to read your posts. You weren't like this in Nancy Drew.
False impartiality. Atm I'm 80% sure that Titus is not coming from an uninformed/ genuine/ that needs to actively find out who is scum/perspective.
Disproving meta with redirection.
In post 2594, clidd wrote:
In post 2575, Titus wrote:Just rechecked, Pooky is a PR claim which makes it suboptimal to eliminate him, but he knows that. :/
More fillers.
Coming from the king of them.
In post 2595, clidd wrote:
In post 2574, Titus wrote:Eyeballing day 1, is there a clear on Pooky? There's a lot of green on Pooky and he got to L minus 1.
Here too.
Point proven xD
Most accurate gif of the game, stirring the pot :P


There is also some stuff that you said when I was pushing Titus that it's odd for town!you to think.

Like the sequence above, for example.

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:05 am
by clidd
Spoiler:
In post 2691, Flea The Magician wrote:Scum is in VFP/Titus, Im leaning titus rn.
In post 2694, Flea The Magician wrote:I'm doing a you, and looking at votes :) Taking clears and other stuff into mind. VFP's been pretty good at shoving Gerain throughout, your slot never voted there on the VCA from D1 and D2. I need to look at D3
In post 2742, Flea The Magician wrote:Everyones pool should be me, Titus and VFP.

Adjusted accordingly.

VFP is the townier of the two imo, so happy with VFP not being considered. Me or Titus peeps.
In post 2749, Flea The Magician wrote:removing clears, mechclear and soft clears, yes. that said, nice catch from Llama.

VOTE: A50
In post 2752, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 2750, VFP wrote:You look desperate at this point Flea! Just take the lim with dignity!
Whatever you're adding to your tea, can I have some?

If you wanna yeet me, yeet me. I know what position I'm in. A50 claimed block when surely one of the PRs should've been blocked previously and claimed it.

You might want some more tinfoil VFP, you raisin my suspicions rn :P

VOTE: VFP Let stay in the nominated pool, shall we?


And other stuff that, honestly.. What were you even doing?

Titus was definitely the most scummy of them, I don't get why you were jumping with votes.

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:14 am
by clidd
I mean, there are problems with you play that make you more scummy than Vfp and I think you're aware of that after the flips. Lotus also agrees with you>Vfp in terms of scum potential.

Which is why we're seeing a50/Flea as a chain solve that probably wins the game.

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:20 am
by clidd
Obviously, if you are a town and know that a hypothetical townflip a50 scenario means an expressive chance of defeat tomorrow, it is up to you to advocate an explanation for scum!Vfp in addition to "he is scum by PoE from my perspective".

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:33 am
by clidd
None of this should matter if a50 is scum, anyways.