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Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 11:38 am
by Roden
You both say it's me.

Neither of you suspect each other.

Neither of you show any real urgency in trying to solve the other.

Yet you don't want to vote me.

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 11:39 am
by Roden
In post 2923, Roden wrote:I'm very much struggling to understand why I bring the two people who want to vote me to ELo and not Blood, who said I was town. WIFOM isn't even a thing here, bringing Blood actually gives me a chance to win of I'm scum.
Did you miss this post Fire?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 11:40 am
by Save The Dragons
have you ever played elo before

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 11:45 am
by Roden
We've been to ELo together

Why do I bring you and not Blood

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 11:46 am
by fireisredsir
In post 2925, Roden wrote:You both say it's me.

Neither of you suspect each other.

Neither of you show any real urgency in trying to solve the other.

Yet you don't want to vote me.
we have a whole day phase why would we be urgent? like i said i plan to read and talk and yes i am considering the possibility that it could be std, why would we vote immediately?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 11:50 am
by Save The Dragons
you're acting like you've never played elo before

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 11:50 am
by Roden
In post 2930, Save The Dragons wrote:you're acting like you've never played elo before
Go on.

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 11:52 am
by Roden
In post 2929, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 2925, Roden wrote:You both say it's me.

Neither of you suspect each other.

Neither of you show any real urgency in trying to solve the other.

Yet you don't want to vote me.
we have a whole day phase why would we be urgent? like i said i plan to read and talk and yes i am considering the possibility that it could be std, why would we vote immediately?
Because one of you is just waiting for the other to vote me.

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 11:53 am
by fireisredsir
In post 2926, Roden wrote:
In post 2923, Roden wrote:I'm very much struggling to understand why I bring the two people who want to vote me to ELo and not Blood, who said I was town. WIFOM isn't even a thing here, bringing Blood actually gives me a chance to win of I'm scum.
Did you miss this post Fire?
i will have more time to talk about this later but

1) yes wifom is 100% a thing, that should be obvious
2) bloodhail also said i was town and that std was town. don't think he ever said you were for sure town, just that he had a gut lean that you might not be scum. p sure his weak eod stuff about sheeping ari/voting me if i don't vote ari was a bait to get you to leave him alive if you're scum. didn't work ig
3) it also doesn't make a ton of sense for std to kill bloodhail bc bloodhail will vote either me or you over std so keeping him alive is a win unless he reassesses based on the weirdness of killing me/you but he doesn't like to reassess in elo so idk. tbh the kill was probably made bc surface level it makes the most sense for me to make and im the most viable miselim for you

gotta go now but be back later

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 11:53 am
by fireisredsir
In post 2932, Roden wrote:
In post 2929, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 2925, Roden wrote:You both say it's me.

Neither of you suspect each other.

Neither of you show any real urgency in trying to solve the other.

Yet you don't want to vote me.
we have a whole day phase why would we be urgent? like i said i plan to read and talk and yes i am considering the possibility that it could be std, why would we vote immediately?
Because one of you is just waiting for the other to vote me.
which of us is scum?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 12:00 pm
by Roden
In post 2933, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 2926, Roden wrote:
In post 2923, Roden wrote:I'm very much struggling to understand why I bring the two people who want to vote me to ELo and not Blood, who said I was town. WIFOM isn't even a thing here, bringing Blood actually gives me a chance to win of I'm scum.
Did you miss this post Fire?
i will have more time to talk about this later but

1) yes wifom is 100% a thing, that should be obvious
2) bloodhail also said i was town and that std was town. don't think he ever said you were for sure town, just that he had a gut lean that you might not be scum. p sure his weak eod stuff about sheeping ari/voting me if i don't vote ari was a bait to get you to leave him alive if you're scum. didn't work ig
3) it also doesn't make a ton of sense for std to kill bloodhail bc bloodhail will vote either me or you over std so keeping him alive is a win unless he reassesses based on the weirdness of killing me/you but he doesn't like to reassess in elo so idk. tbh the kill was probably made bc surface level it makes the most sense for me to make and im the most viable miselim for you

gotta go now but be back later
1) WIFOM to bring two people who I know will vote me vs the one who town read me?
2) I'm sorry, can you explain why I don't take the chance that Blood might not vote me? As opposed to...taking the two people who I know will vote me?
3) Wouldn't scum!STD kill Blood since he had a higher chance of not voting me over you? Also why do you think I'm more likely to vote you over STD?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 12:01 pm
by Roden
In post 2934, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 2932, Roden wrote:
In post 2929, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 2925, Roden wrote:You both say it's me.

Neither of you suspect each other.

Neither of you show any real urgency in trying to solve the other.

Yet you don't want to vote me.
we have a whole day phase why would we be urgent? like i said i plan to read and talk and yes i am considering the possibility that it could be std, why would we vote immediately?
Because one of you is just waiting for the other to vote me.
which of us is scum?
Take a guess.

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 12:21 pm
by fireisredsir
In post 2936, Roden wrote:
In post 2934, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 2932, Roden wrote:
In post 2929, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 2925, Roden wrote:You both say it's me.

Neither of you suspect each other.

Neither of you show any real urgency in trying to solve the other.

Yet you don't want to vote me.
we have a whole day phase why would we be urgent? like i said i plan to read and talk and yes i am considering the possibility that it could be std, why would we vote immediately?
Because one of you is just waiting for the other to vote me.
which of us is scum?
Take a guess.
you seem to be implying std now which is ??? bc that has not really been your progression at all actually, and it was not clear at all what you think for most of your early posts in this day phase since they were all defensive

it just seems like you're keeping your options open to see which of us has more of a possibility to turn on the other

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 12:30 pm
by Roden
In post 2937, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 2936, Roden wrote:
In post 2934, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 2932, Roden wrote:
In post 2929, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 2925, Roden wrote:You both say it's me.

Neither of you suspect each other.

Neither of you show any real urgency in trying to solve the other.

Yet you don't want to vote me.
we have a whole day phase why would we be urgent? like i said i plan to read and talk and yes i am considering the possibility that it could be std, why would we vote immediately?
Because one of you is just waiting for the other to vote me.
which of us is scum?
Take a guess.
you seem to be implying std now which is ??? bc that has not really been your progression at all actually, and it was not clear at all what you think for most of your early posts in this day phase since they were all defensive

it just seems like you're keeping your options open to see which of us has more of a possibility to turn on the other
Then vote me.

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 12:31 pm
by Roden
Like you can posture and shade all you want but if you're so certain then vote

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 12:32 pm
by Roden
Because if I'm "keeping my options open", then what exactly are you doing?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 1:38 pm
by Roden
In post 2933, fireisredsir wrote: it also doesn't make a ton of sense for std to kill bloodhail bc bloodhail will vote either me or you over std so keeping him alive is a win unless he reassesses based on the weirdness of killing me/you but he doesn't like to reassess in elo so idk. tbh the kill was probably made bc surface level it makes the most sense for me to make and im the most viable miselim for you
In post 2937, fireisredsir wrote: it just seems like you're keeping your options open to see which of us has more of a possibility to turn on the other
These thoughts don't mesh with each other at all.

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 3:03 pm
by fireisredsir
you seem to be saying one of us is obvious scum but i can't actually tell which one you think is

and you're treating both of us exactly the same which doesn't make any sense in that world

like if you're undecided that's cool but at least own it

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 3:05 pm
by Save The Dragons
Yeah I have no idea which one of us roden is pushing

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 3:10 pm
by Roden
If one of you was obvious scum I would just vote. I haven't said anyone was obvious, if I implied that then I apologize and I'd like you to point out where that happened.

I wouldn't say I'm treating you both the same though, I still think it's more likely you. There's a low chance it's STD, if only because for STD to be town he'd have to have zero correct reads this entire game and be borderline game throwing with his blind tunnel on me but refusing to vote me yesterday when I offered to be eliminated before ELo.

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 3:11 pm
by Roden
In post 2931, Roden wrote:
In post 2930, Save The Dragons wrote:you're acting like you've never played elo before
Go on.

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 3:16 pm
by Save The Dragons
You're not listening to us when we say we want to evaluate both options

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 3:17 pm
by Roden
Fire why aren't you questioning STD's abrupt scum read and vote onto Ari?

STD why aren't you doing the same for Fire?

Like you're both claiming you want to be sure before you vote, but I don't see either of you doing anything except arguing with me and shading me for not being sure who to vote for myself.

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 3:19 pm
by Roden
STD why did you prefer to vote Ari instead of me even though you hard scum read my slot almost all game and I offered to go out first

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 3:25 pm
by fireisredsir
bc i am with my fam for memorial day and just wanted to check in to say that i will read and think and post in depth later