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↑ PeregrineV wrote:

↑ TheWayItEnds wrote:

↑ Spider Gwen wrote:@Stormy: A reread of Alch wouldn't hurt. I know I haven't gotten much from his play. You might be able to see things I can't.

this post says, and i quote

"I will be hiding behind alchemist tonight"

It could have been more clear IMO, but it's a start.

Vote: Alchemist

LOL

↑ T S O wrote:I'll be furious if Gwen -didn't- submit an action, but I feel that is incredibly unlikely, so I'm going to discount it as a possibility.

This is why I think random could be scum. He guessed that Gwen didn't submit an action before Alchemist even flipped. It seems like he had insider knowledge.


Explain your townreads on MOHIS and errant please and thank you. I'm willing to hear you out and cross them off my list but I need more than "they're town".

@Anen
There's something I saw in random's ISO that makes me doubt he's scum but it could be nothing. I felt like I was confbiasing with him earlier so I wanted to take a step back and listen to what other people have to say about him.

Alright Titus, I'm confused. Iirc, you called out everyone who took sudden interest in Elyse while the kling wagon was building. Do you not think what he did was scummy? What about the fact that he seems to be lurking while other people fight? Or that TSO has now straight up lied to protect him?

Give me something Titus, you said you're being reconsidering reads today, let's talk.

↑ Garmr wrote:There's so much wifom with the hider claim unless someone finds a crumb on who she his behind we should lynch scum aka eagle I have the best case on him out of any cases present today. Also his a common scu m 4ead but always side lined. We should of lynched him before but you guys were like nooo

what about 2944?

PV talk to me. How about lynching errant today?

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:PV talk to me. How about lynching errant today?

I'll look at him tomorrow.

↑ Elyse wrote:

@TWIE

Explain your townreads on MOHIS and errant please and thank you. I'm willing to hear you out and cross them off my list but I need more than "they're town".

I have infiltrated the ranks of the lurkers in order to study them, how they think, how they act. I have gained deep knowledge of the truths the bind all mafia players together. I can see the lines that connect all things.

Also I read their posts and they are town.

↑ Aneninen wrote:

↑ T S O wrote:Can you summarise why you're voting Errant?¹ Because Eagle hasn't either.² So it seems interesting that you're sheeping a non-existent case.³

1. I could if I wanted to.
2. He's doing so.
3. Wrong.

1. Fantastic, good for you. Now that we know that I don't hold utter sway over you, maybe you can get off your high horse and stop attempting to toss the fucking game.
2. I haven't seen EE even attempt to summarise a case.
3. Quote it.

↑ TheWayItEnds wrote:

Jason

If a hider hid behind a person who was targeted for the night kill and the person she hid behind was doc protected, what would happen to the hider?

Both would be protected.

Following EE's scumread on Errant is the blind leading the blind. Aside from the fact that there is currently zero reasoning for the vote (and I mean that; it's not like flimsy reasoning has even been provided, simply nothing at all) EE has been fucking highly suspect all game. Some recent stuff; the way the slot goes from the meek scared don't take this as me implicating you please!!! to TSO is suspect as fuck and we're lynching my guy today and him tomorrow where the only relevant information in between is me executing a ploy about lurkers and saying that I don't think Eagle is town. That's it.

And that bizarre aggression switch has been on the entire game. I'm barely even townreading Errant; I have been trying to sort him for ages, since I love his general play but hate his stances around Klingon and that makes me nervous. But at least Errant didn't maniacally attempt to save Klingon from the noose d1 like EE did.

Okay, so we're back to either not having a fucking clue about SG, venturing into the wild and wonderful land of the Bus Driver, and presuming she didn't take an action. Marvellous.

If you think EE is town, then you should really, be asking him to produce some coherent content on his scumread. I am not sure there is a player in the game EE hasn't scumread at some point. Spifflop, Alchemist, Elyse, me, Errant, the list drives on.

TWIE, I'm still not townreading MOHIS. I feel like this is a read you feel you need to back for your honour or something, and that's fine, but I really can't afford to be wrong about him, so if you can't actually elucidate on why you think he's town, then just say so.

I didn't really get any sorting of reads done today. I don't want to push EE until I do that.

Varsoon - if you are town, for not answering the one question you were asked. Really. Thank you so much. After all that content you haven't provided, I was unaware that it was now above your abilities to answer a single goddamn question.

@Elyse maybe he's said he's reconsidering his reads but his actions very strongly state otherwise. This is also not out of the norm for TSO. He is also lying about me when he states that I have no case against EP. I have brought it up multiple times and in a post he quoted as well.

Why would scum jailkeep and shoot alch when he wouldn't die?
Either she hid behind someone she thought was town but was scum (what I think happened) or she didn't send in an action. Let's not get into bus drivers.

Shiro, I've been thinking.
I don't think Gwen hid behind me. I was trying hard to provoke my Nightkill for *reasons*.

↑ Elyse wrote:There's something I saw in random's ISO that makes me doubt he's scum but it could be nothing. I felt like I was confbiasing with him earlier so I wanted to take a step back and listen to what other people have to say about him.

Good. I like the way you're thinking.

↑ TheWayItEnds wrote:
I have infiltrated the ranks of the lurkers in order to study them, how they think, how they act. I have gained deep knowledge of the truths the bind all mafia players together. I can see the lines that connect all things.

Also I read their posts and they are town.

Should I believe you or EE?

↑ T S O wrote:
1. Fantastic, good for you. Now that we know that I don't hold utter sway over you, maybe you can get off your high horse and stop attempting to toss the fucking game.
2. I haven't seen EE even attempt to summarise a case.
3. Quote it.

What horse? Oh, that one! I borrowed it from . TROLOLOL!
I still don't want to answer, however, you've made me think. What if I'm wrong about what I don't want to explain? Also, EE's recent posts don't match the Multiverse in my mind.

UNVOTE:

EE, we'd like to see an updated readlist from you.

↑ T S O wrote:EE has been fucking highly suspect all game.

On the other hand, his naked vote drew a lot of attention on him. Would a scum have done so?

↑ T S O wrote:Okay, so we're back to either not having a fucking clue about SG, venturing into the wild and wonderful land of the Bus Driver, and presuming she didn't take an action. Marvellous.

I don't want Bus Drivers. By the way, as far as I can remember, according to the NAR table Hiding trumps Bus-Driving.

↑ T S O wrote:Varsoon - if you are town,

thank you so much

for not answering the one question you were asked. Really. Thank you so much. After all that content you haven't provided, I was unaware that it was now above your abilities to answer a single goddamn question.

So, if I'm called useless, take a look at Varsoon!

↑ Randomnamechange wrote:Why would scum jailkeep and shoot alch when he wouldn't die?
Either she hid behind someone she thought was town but was scum (what I think happened) or she didn't send in an action. Let's not get into bus drivers.

Look up the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane!
Nnnnnnnnnnnnnno
It's another WIFOM-rocket launched by Randomidget!

Once again, the world is saved. Thanks to the !

VOTE: Randomidget

Unless we have a clear note / crumble from our hider I believe we should just forget about it for now and go look for scum.

the last few pages which I am reading is hider this and hider that.

Counter Productive at best.

Well we can sort this out.
Hiding behind scum would result in different death flavor.
hiders can't can't be roleblocked.
If the target is town and protected then both hider and town would live.
If she hid behind scum she would die.

Therefore the only conclusion is hider didn't hide and she was killed because of that alchemist got mislynched.

That's the end of the hider talk right here becuase we can figure out she didn't hide.

↑ Aneninen wrote:
What horse? Oh, that one! I borrowed it from

Monty Python and the Holy Grail

. TROLOLOL!
I still don't want to answer, however, you've made me think. What if I'm wrong about what I don't want to explain? Also, EE's recent posts don't match the Multiverse in my mind.

UNVOTE:

EE, we'd like to see an updated readlist from you.

Oh good. My reads are important of that we need a new list every few pages.

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:@EE, Readslist please.

EP and the rest of the list I mentioned need a hard look at. Also maybe someone should maybe read garmrs posts just once to check and make sure it's not scum. I can't read past the stupid, that I thought he might have left behind him right now.

That was old. EP still needs lynching. TSO and Garmr need a look. If EP isn't scum than randomidget probably is. Still want to lynch EP first.

↑ PeregrineV wrote:

↑ Garmr wrote:There's so much wifom with the hider claim unless someone finds a crumb on who she his behind we should lynch scum aka eagle I have the best case on him out of any cases present today. Also his a common scu m 4ead but always side lined. We should of lynched him before but you guys were like nooo

what about 2944?

Wouldn't consider crumb strong enough. Also figured hider didn't hide so yeh.

I'm actually tempted to jump on RM right now but I'm still thinking EP needs lynching and the last time I followed tso off of EP we lynched town.

Also, did TSO ever even answer my"what are your reads like if you're scum?" Question? Because if he didn't, why are we letting him get away with this crap?

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:@EP. I like your reads for the most part. I would like to know: what were you thinking when I pushed Elyse lynch d1? Looking back it was a shit push on my part.

Do you often tell your scumreads that you generally like their reads?

From what I can see, your case against EP is "he's inactive this game and his push on Elyse was really bad."

What this actually means is "EP pushed Elyse and so did I but I'm town so that's okay!!!". Worse still, EP eventually helped get Klingon lynched, in pointed contrast to you. Was there a counterwagon to Elyse d1 you didn't wholeheartedly back?