Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 5:19 am
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VOTE: Battle Mage
VOTE: Battle Mage
Dude...no...I don't see what advantage BM has of turning on me day 3 when I 100% townread him.
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 5:36 am
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 6:06 am
Reminder for whomever missed my reaction to iDany claim.In post 2617, davesaz wrote: The "only in the Police hood" thing is an aspect that makes fakeclaim a real possibility for me. If scum needed to eliminate someone from "police" at a critical juncture with a fake guilty it would be the best kind of cover. Plus it's good cover for not investigating scummy people outside that hood. And I certainly don't see town in iDany's posting. I would have said that it's just as likely to be fake as real, but I think we're on the same page there.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 6:18 am
You know you've messed up when even ABR won't back your BM vote.In post 2951, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Dude...no...I don't see what advantage BM has of turning on me day 3 when I 100% townread him.
Problem with replacements after 100 pages, is they don't tend to read what's happened so sometimes they can make mistakes like this.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 6:19 am
3 scum in a 4 person hood?In post 2943, VaultDweller wrote:Why? The more I read the game the more this feels plausibleIn post 2913, Morning Tweet wrote:If ABR and BM are scum together i'd lose my shit
That is wacky dude...Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 6:25 am
I don't really follow this?In post 2945, VaultDweller wrote:W.r.t. all the investigative roles in the cop hood, I can confirm that I also have an (admittedly weak) investigative power.
And my funnybone is telling me that one of my hoodmates just has to be scum, but I'm hesitant to lynch there for obvious reasons.
Not really... I quite clearly said "if there's a godfather in this game", responding to the previous comment. I haven't given a sense of whether I think that's likely. I don't really have a sense of whether it's likely or not. And for what it's worth, even if I did conclude a Godfather was likely, there's nothing to suggest it would have to be Jigsaw. Investigation immunity is not exactly an amazing power role in the context of this game.In post 2949, Vecna wrote:Youre suddenly going to ignore your own flavour theorycrafting?In post 2941, Battle Mage wrote:if there's a godfather role in this game, it's ABR right? who else played on Day 1 like they were desperate to be investigated asap?
that seems odd
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 6:28 am
Jokes aside, if this Day phase actually ends with me being lynched, town has zero chance in this game.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:25 am
There's no way you get enough votes to be lynched today, BM.
I'm not willing to vote outside of my hood, which means that in all likelihood I get lynched, which is probably not the worst outcome here, tbh. When my role is confirmed, my setup knowledge becomes fact and there's a small pool of potential players for nonjigsaw scum in the police hood. Dave's reaction of "crumb PR as hard as possible while keeping his actual particulars vague" is not likely to be town imo, because the crumbs make him just as likely to eat a nightkill (trap) as the actual claim would, but keeping the claim vague as shit lets him tailor it further if he lives.
It's also bullshit that he's going to immediately be the nightkill target off of a (I have a 1/the playerlist chance of hitting scum!) when he's a likely lynch and scum is almost at the endgame. Frankly, an investigative that can only hit the godfather would be a nonissue to a 4 person scumteam at this point.
I'm not willing to vote outside of my hood, which means that in all likelihood I get lynched, which is probably not the worst outcome here, tbh. When my role is confirmed, my setup knowledge becomes fact and there's a small pool of potential players for nonjigsaw scum in the police hood. Dave's reaction of "crumb PR as hard as possible while keeping his actual particulars vague" is not likely to be town imo, because the crumbs make him just as likely to eat a nightkill (trap) as the actual claim would, but keeping the claim vague as shit lets him tailor it further if he lives.
It's also bullshit that he's going to immediately be the nightkill target off of a (I have a 1/the playerlist chance of hitting scum!) when he's a likely lynch and scum is almost at the endgame. Frankly, an investigative that can only hit the godfather would be a nonissue to a 4 person scumteam at this point.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:26 am
Yeah, it was pretty trash. Most of them were, though.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:34 am
I could swear someone confirmed that jigsaw is a GF?In post 2955, Battle Mage wrote:I don't really follow this?In post 2945, VaultDweller wrote:W.r.t. all the investigative roles in the cop hood, I can confirm that I also have an (admittedly weak) investigative power.
And my funnybone is telling me that one of my hoodmates just has to be scum, but I'm hesitant to lynch there for obvious reasons.
Not really... I quite clearly said "if there's a godfather in this game", responding to the previous comment. I haven't given a sense of whether I think that's likely. I don't really have a sense of whether it's likely or not. And for what it's worth, even if I did conclude a Godfather was likely, there's nothing to suggest it would have to be Jigsaw. Investigation immunity is not exactly an amazing power role in the context of this game.In post 2949, Vecna wrote:Youre suddenly going to ignore your own flavour theorycrafting?In post 2941, Battle Mage wrote:if there's a godfather role in this game, it's ABR right? who else played on Day 1 like they were desperate to be investigated asap?
that seems odd
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:38 am
Dave saying "I'm a PR. take that stupid" kind of seems like his M.O and is pretty much what id expect from town dave
Although im unfamiliar with what scum dave does instead. hmm
I think that if you're gonna design a setup with an 8 person cop hood, you cant afford to make all their investigative powers good. A regular cop, a godfather cop, an internal cop, etc., all makes sense. Drixx finally having a role claim that isnt cop makes me feel better about him though.
im not sure if i can use the cop claims themselves to determine who is scum. frustrating
@BM Hectics role PM heavily implies there is a godfather named Jigsaw
Although im unfamiliar with what scum dave does instead. hmm
I think that if you're gonna design a setup with an 8 person cop hood, you cant afford to make all their investigative powers good. A regular cop, a godfather cop, an internal cop, etc., all makes sense. Drixx finally having a role claim that isnt cop makes me feel better about him though.
im not sure if i can use the cop claims themselves to determine who is scum. frustrating
@BM Hectics role PM heavily implies there is a godfather named Jigsaw
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:45 am
Both Hectic and my roles imply the existence of Jigsaw as GF, although it is theoretically plausible that's just a ruse to make sure our results aren't trustworthy. Dave being a godfather only cop would functionally confirm the existence of the role.In post 2959, Vecna wrote:I could swear someone confirmed that jigsaw is a GF?
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:31 am
Maybe it's {Battle Mage XOR ABR}, Guilty Lion, davesaz, and Drixx.
VOTE: Drixx
VOTE: Drixx
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:45 am
VOTE: Bingle
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:51 am
VOTE: Drixx
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:53 am
y drixx over bingle
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:57 am
Why Bingle? Seems town to me.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 9:05 am
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 9:11 am
im not exactly taking your advice given your reads thus farIn post 2966, Ircher wrote:Why Bingle? Seems town to me.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 10:44 am
Pretty unlikely solve, but a substantial improvement on your last attempt, so kudos for that.In post 2962, Ircher wrote:Maybe it's {Battle Mage XOR ABR}, Guilty Lion, davesaz, and Drixx.
VOTE: Drixx
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 10:46 am
Ah thanks - I'm a bit lost on all the claims/confirms still.In post 2960, Morning Tweet wrote:Dave saying "I'm a PR. take that stupid" kind of seems like his M.O and is pretty much what id expect from town dave
Although im unfamiliar with what scum dave does instead. hmm
I think that if you're gonna design a setup with an 8 person cop hood, you cant afford to make all their investigative powers good. A regular cop, a godfather cop, an internal cop, etc., all makes sense. Drixx finally having a role claim that isnt cop makes me feel better about him though.
im not sure if i can use the cop claims themselves to determine who is scum. frustrating
@BM Hectics role PM heavily implies there is a godfather named Jigsaw
Has anyone made that list yet?
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 11:22 am
Bolded is updates.In post 2737, Bingle wrote:VaultDweller <- Town unless Vecna is scum. If scum with Vecna, unlikely Jigsaw (who the fuck fake innos a Godfather?)
Ircher <- Town or Jigsaw unless I am scum. Gave ABR a BP Vest.
Albert B. Rampage <- Neighbor with flipped scum, small hood.
Battle Mage <- Neighbor with flipped scum, small hood.
BBmolla <- Semi Proven 1 shot Reporter, if more than one shot can be full proven. Slight town equity to claim not being used as a scum power. Not sure if it would occur to BB to use it as a scum power.
pisskop <- Claimed no hood.
Vecna <- Informed VD is town. Flavor supports claim, vaguely towny? Spec seems to want to widen lynchpool, keep an eye on this.
GuiltyLion <- Broke a trap. One Shot? (Don't clarify GL)
Eddie Cane <- In a hood with two cops (one of which can only target in hood), feels town.
davesaz <- As above, other people said null.Softing Godfather Cop
Drixx <- As above, other people said scummy. Trap interaction role, but only with multiperson traps.Maybe not godfather because dave is softing maybe having some kind of role sorta.
Firebringer <- No mechanicals?
Morning Tweet <- EC says town, I feel pings. No real mechanicals?
I might have missed some, I've mostly been skimming, tbh.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 11:37 am
And just like that, I move to the BM theory of ABR is scum. Defends and plays nice with me all game. Then naked votes me. Hrm.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 11:40 am
I've thought ABR was manipulating people all game. Scum makes sense with that.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 11:47 am
I'm still totally cool with an ABR lynch today.In post 1499, SirCakez wrote:Forgot one thing!
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