FGO: Mafia in the Lostbelt (Game Over!)


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Post Post #2950 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:59 am

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Vote Count D2-13


With 12 players alive, it will take 7 votes to eliminate a player.

Saber (5): Lancer, Beast, Assassin, Alter Ego, Caster
Lancer (2): Foreigner, Avenger
Moon Cancer (2): Berserker, Saber


Phase Page Usage: 29/60

Day two will end in: (expired on 2020-09-27 22:00:00)

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Post Post #2951 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:00 pm

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In post 2938, Servant Avenger wrote:There are 4 scum Rider, one's dead.
Who's the third one?
Do you think everyone should have a solve by now?
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Post Post #2952 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:08 pm

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I don't have any specific feelings about burning Saber
In post 2949, Servant Assassin wrote:Need to go back and review Ruler because that pop-in bothered me
They don't really give any opinion. They liked your wall post.
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Post Post #2953 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:15 pm

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I don't remember or didn't see what Berserker's reaction to Moon Cancer was, but I'm assuming it was good?

VOTE: Ruler
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Post Post #2954 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:25 pm

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Checking in.
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Post Post #2955 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:26 pm

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I've been sick all week more or less, lost track of things.
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Post Post #2956 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:26 pm

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In post 2953, Servant Foreigner wrote:I don't remember or didn't see what Berserker's reaction to Moon Cancer was, but I'm assuming it was good?

VOTE: Ruler
Reaction to what?
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Post Post #2957 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:31 pm

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After you pushed them and they claimed a part of their role
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Post Post #2958 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:33 pm

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In post 2957, Servant Foreigner wrote:After you pushed them and they claimed a part of their role
Oh, yeah I mean.

It's kind of a -shrug-
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Post Post #2959 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:34 pm

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Did you actually want to talk to me about any of that spoiler stuff, Alter Ego, or can I just ignore it?
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Post Post #2960 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:39 pm

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In post 2958, Servant Berserker wrote:
In post 2957, Servant Foreigner wrote:After you pushed them and they claimed a part of their role
Oh, yeah I mean.

It's kind of a -shrug-
Do you mind explaining the basis for your moon cancer scumread, prior to today? Doesn't have to cite anything specific, a sentence or two would do.
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Post Post #2961 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:44 pm

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It's probably easier just to point out that you have some correct guesses about my general play style and the confidence I used to have in my own ability to solve games. This is more of a get-back-on-the-horse game than anything, so while aspects of how I used to play might shine through, I don't actually know if I can correctly solve this game, even if I had more time to read. I'm trying to find my bearing again. This day phase has not been great for free time, unfortunately. I keep forgetting this is game has a 7-day deadline too.

I've been considering just dumping some of the free flow analysis I'd normally keep caged in the PT here since I wanna do some ISO work today.
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Post Post #2962 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:44 pm

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In post 2952, Servant Foreigner wrote:I don't have any specific feelings about burning Saber
In post 2949, Servant Assassin wrote:Need to go back and review Ruler because that pop-in bothered me
They don't really give any opinion. They liked your wall post.
Yes, I know
that
. What I meant is I wanted to go back and look at what Ruler 2.0 had posted. I didn't really learn a lot. Their master phase posting was, on the whole, mostly fine, then they disappeared and when they emerged, gave a readlist based on the end of day movement during the master phase. They didn't make a whole lot of sense.
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Post Post #2963 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:48 pm

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In post 2959, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:Did you actually want to talk to me about any of that spoiler stuff, Alter Ego, or can I just ignore it?
You can ignore it if like. I'm not going anywhere with it today. And I hope there is no mastermind and this game will go swimmingly from here.

I didn't want the wall to hit the thread without you here to tell me I'm being stupid if you want to, but I got concerned about the time remaining on the clock.
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Post Post #2964 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:55 pm

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In post 2963, Servant Alter Ego wrote:
In post 2959, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:Did you actually want to talk to me about any of that spoiler stuff, Alter Ego, or can I just ignore it?
You can ignore it if like. I'm not going anywhere with it today. And I hope there is no mastermind and this game will go swimmingly from here.

I didn't want the wall to hit the thread without you here to tell me I'm being stupid if you want to, but I got concerned about the time remaining on the clock.
I one-upped you in conspiracy theories but I'm not going to post it
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Post Post #2965 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:00 pm

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Hi Lancer, yeah we have been one of the few to consistently interact but that could kind of be true of most players this game. I've had a chat with everyone really. Or close to it. I'm just trying to figure out how not to let scum slip through today. As constant shifts off of scum and unto town could get us in trouble later down the line.
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Post Post #2966 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:01 pm

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I kind of want to flashwagon Ruler.
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Post Post #2967 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:01 pm

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It sucks, but I don't have a firm grip on which players are scum, I just know generally which players probably aren't.
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Post Post #2968 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:03 pm

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In post 2966, Servant Assassin wrote:I kind of want to flashwagon Ruler.
I kind of want to flash wagon beast and figure out whether there's going to be an apocalypse if we let her live a few more days. :shifty:
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Post Post #2969 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:04 pm

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In post 2967, Servant Avenger wrote:It sucks, but I don't have a firm grip on which players are scum, I just know generally which players probably aren't.
Why did you push Rider for a 4th?
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Post Post #2970 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:05 pm

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In post 2966, Servant Assassin wrote:I kind of want to flashwagon Ruler.
My vote's going where yours does.
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Post Post #2971 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:06 pm

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Because he narrowed the pool too much and I didn't want him to narrow it for the reasons given. It was a gentle reality check.
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Post Post #2972 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:08 pm

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@Alter Ego, I should also mention I thoroughly enjoy playing mind games with people, so it's only appropriate to post the following. It is 100% true self analysis, but well... it is what it is. (If you care enough in post-game or after my flip to remember this, you're free to verify it for yourself.)

Subtly encouraging bad ideas is probably a good way to describe how I normally play scum - I like it when town implodes in on itself with little direct liability. And ending up, for example, at the bottom of Assassin's town list is _exactly_ the place I like to be as scum. Not too town that people wonder why I'm still around later, that sweet spot.

But uh, as pointless as it might be to say this in an anonymous game, there's a fair few things I've done here that I would never do as scum. I'm risk-averse scum and I tend not to say or do things that have a potential risk of backfiring,
even if
they have a larger potential payoff. Being as standoffish as I've been today is _probably_ a good indicator I'm not scum - at least, in my memory, I've never done that as scum, and blowing that kind of potential meta manipulation in an anonymous game against players who can't even meta me is uh... also not my style.



Anyway, time to ISO-dive.
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Post Post #2973 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:15 pm

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In post 2960, Servant Assassin wrote:
In post 2958, Servant Berserker wrote:
In post 2957, Servant Foreigner wrote:After you pushed them and they claimed a part of their role
Oh, yeah I mean.

It's kind of a -shrug-
Do you mind explaining the basis for your moon cancer scumread, prior to today? Doesn't have to cite anything specific, a sentence or two would do.
I've literally explained this before. Have you tried reading my ISO before asking this question.

Like I'll answer it if you can't find it in my ISO, but if you can't and I have to go find and quote lines from me to you I'mma be fuckin' mad.
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Post Post #2974 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:17 pm

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In post 2972, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:@Alter Ego, I should also mention I thoroughly enjoy playing mind games with people, so it's only appropriate to post the following. It is 100% true self analysis, but well... it is what it is. (If you care enough in post-game or after my flip to remember this, you're free to verify it for yourself.)

Subtly encouraging bad ideas is probably a good way to describe how I normally play scum - I like it when town implodes in on itself with little direct liability. And ending up, for example, at the bottom of Assassin's town list is _exactly_ the place I like to be as scum. Not too town that people wonder why I'm still around later, that sweet spot.

But uh, as pointless as it might be to say this in an anonymous game, there's a fair few things I've done here that I would never do as scum. I'm risk-averse scum and I tend not to say or do things that have a potential risk of backfiring,
even if
they have a larger potential payoff. Being as standoffish as I've been today is _probably_ a good indicator I'm not scum - at least, in my memory, I've never done that as scum, and blowing that kind of potential meta manipulation in an anonymous game against players who can't even meta me is uh... also not my style.



Anyway, time to ISO-dive.
It probably won't surprise you that none of this surprises me.
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