Page 119 of 202
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:52 am
by PlusJOYED
This is a bit of a reach, but I think mena went after Osuka cause they wanted IV to live and Osuka is an easy target for a day 1 elim
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:52 am
by Andresvmb
Yeah I know Menalque is the type of player that is absolutely capable of pushing hard as Scum. It takes a certain personality. I know I can do it too, but it’s not my preferred style.
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:53 am
by Andresvmb
Alright Bob, are you staying on Teacher? What are you going to do?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:59 am
by bob3141
At the moment I hate all the main lynches
I think osuka vs menal is town v town.
I feel players are making many associations based on village. A village lynch at the moment im feeling would be no more than damage limitation. A slot that has some chance to flip scum and isnt going to end up with miskill of a town pr or outing of one.
kersets a claimed doc.
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:07 am
by PlusJOYED
agree with rest, but not true for iv. By killing him here, even if he flips town, it'll clear up so much
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:10 am
by bob3141
Out of village an osuka i would prob pick village.
Osuka just feels like what ive seen from in his other town games. He strikes me as someone who easily gets into these tvt fights
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:14 am
by innocentvillager
PlusJOYED wrote:agree with rest, but not true for iv. By killing him here, even if he flips town, it'll clear up so much
exactly what the fuck would it clear? i know I’m town and I believe you’re town but I don’t have any clear idea of what’s going on
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:15 am
by innocentvillager
sorry I didn’t mean that in an insulting way, I do use profanity a fair amount but if I do it’s never meant to be insulting
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:16 am
by innocentvillager
In post 2953, bob3141 wrote:At the moment I hate all the main lynches
I think osuka vs menal is town v town.
I feel players are making many associations based on village. A village lynch at the moment im feeling would be no more than damage limitation. A slot that has some chance to flip scum and isnt going to end up with miskill of a town pr or outing of one.
kersets a claimed doc.
yeah kind of seems like I’m the obvious choice when you say it like that huh?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:18 am
by innocentvillager
bob, have you seen scum!osuka? Or only town!osuka?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:18 am
by innocentvillager
I did a brief metadive on osuka and tried to find a scum game... all were from like 2018 and he was completely different there
But he was also kind of different in his old town games too
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:21 am
by PlusJOYED
iv playing so surface level and being so lost while using AtE makes it pretty clear to me he's scum just trying to avoid dying without any intent to solve.
pedit: sorry iv it"s nothing personal
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:22 am
by PlusJOYED
In post 2955, bob3141 wrote:Out of village an osuka i would prob pick village.
Osuka just feels like what ive seen from in his other town games. He strikes me as someone who easily gets into these tvt fights
agree on that.
If I was scum I'd stay away from osuka and let him self destruct in TvT fights.
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:22 am
by innocentvillager
yeah I somewhat believe bob is town, I have yet to look at more meta but the scum!bob posting from one random game really does seem more engaged and more stiff, i’d rather eliminate me than bob
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:22 am
by innocentvillager
plus how I am playing surface level...?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:24 am
by innocentvillager
you really think being lost is a scum indicator??? this is confbias at its finest
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:24 am
by bob3141
In post 2960, innocentvillager wrote:I did a brief metadive on osuka and tried to find a scum game... all were from like 2018 and he was completely different there
But he was also kind of different in his old town games too
only town.
Osuka as town tends to respond to any scum read of him as if it was stupid. Even if it's reasonable. Which gives the impression to those pushing him that he is doing ate. Which is what I think has snagged menal.
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:25 am
by innocentvillager
right, I feel that, so how do you know that is not how scum!osuka responds too
he certainly had a bite to him in some of his scum games too
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:26 am
by bob3141
Thats what making it hard
Im going to find soem i think is scum and pick the players based on their reads
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:27 am
by bob3141
someone
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:30 am
by bob3141
everyway i look at it. I just like the wagon composition on osuka better. If the scum team is on it then im prob pocketed
I hope I've not gone from one game with amazing reads to another will terrible reads
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:35 am
by innocentvillager
Being able to find scum in one game does not necessarily mean you are able to in another
frequently I get a big head after a game I played well/nailed scum/right on all my townreads
then later I have another shit game where I massively fail a read or I just have no fucking idea
a lot of it is simply luck despite what we would like to believe
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:45 am
by PlusJOYED
In post 2970, bob3141 wrote:everyway i look at it. I just like the wagon composition on osuka better. If the scum team is on it then im prob pocketed
I hope I've not gone from one game with amazing reads to another will terrible reads
I honestly think the wagon on osuka is pretty townie, I just think town is wrong here
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:52 am
by bob3141
In post 2971, innocentvillager wrote:Being able to find scum in one game does not necessarily mean you are able to in another
frequently I get a big head after a game I played well/nailed scum/right on all my townreads
then later I have another shit game where I massively fail a read or I just have no fucking idea
a lot of it is simply luck despite what we would like to believe
tis not luck
:goes to shake magic 8 ball
It says Reply hazy, try again
:
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:55 am
by bob3141
In post 1173, NDMath wrote: In post 1109, teacher wrote:Nd math, that’s a pretty narrow post to reenter with. What would you say is your availability generally? What are your own takes? Etc.
I spent more time on that post than the others, doesn't show because I couldn't come to a conclusion on kerset and gave up.
My top townread is IV because I understand his thought process and like his interactions with others.
osuka is being over-townread if that's a term but I'm not convinced that's scum driven.
shelly's iso is much townier than I expected it to be.
Mena's
410 stands out because of its similarities with
333.
In post 1134, bob3141 wrote:Question is the kerset wagon on town or scum. For both cases im leaning on the first 4 votes being town.
If Iv is town then i would expect more pressure on kerset if he was town with him.
Teacher asked a variation of this, but are you saying that if kerset flips town you expect the people who pushed kerset to also be town?
teacher wrote:VOTE: NDMath
Coming in once a morning with a narrow post is not acceptable to me. I need to see you actually interact and play.
okay
In post 2837, NDMath wrote: In post 2410, shellyc wrote:Why does rolestopper flip prove you as town? rolestopper doesn't mean assured ascetic claim
I said some town points if I'm proven not targetable after mafia rolestopper dies.
Threw it out there because it was asked what the implications were on my alignment.
In post 2829, shellyc wrote:tbh the warring / division isn't helping; we should post our lynchpools
Same as teacher:
Bob>IV>Osuka to get an elim through.
Scumteam I'm slightly leaning towards is first two with Mena. Mena + IV had the 'determine kerset's gate' idea at the same time and Mena's defense of IV seemed quite out there. Both slots specifically Mena ignored Bob but encouraged the status quo of Bob being townie / not an elim target.
In post 2836, shellyc wrote:I'm not cherrypicking. I'm describing how the majority of your posts look like and they are devoid of content
The post you quoted kerset was swinging their first at the air, while most of them have some intent or question.
Math can you go over how osuka Village went from atop town read to below osuka. A player backing in the 1100 you said was being over townread