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I wish zmuffinman was here and town.
He'd know what to do.

N1: I protect Bell N3.
N2: I protect Kookie Tonight
N3: I time jump to D5. (Bell is protected from N1 action).
N4: --no action--

In post 2949, Flea The Magician wrote:They admitted INDIRECT INVOLVEMENT and gave reason for roleblocking everyone, get the worst one out of the way sooner rather than later

Yeah, let’s just get this one out of the way on the night we have an IC. Oopsie! Surprised you’re not pissed at this because you could have protected an IC, but actually I’m not surprised because you’re not town

As an example of actions over the game.

Future Trunks is a time traveller.
My abilities are time based.

In post 2952, superbowl9 wrote:

In post 2949, Flea The Magician wrote:They admitted INDIRECT INVOLVEMENT and gave reason for roleblocking everyone, get the worst one out of the way sooner rather than later

Yeah, let’s just get this one out of the way on the night we have an IC. Oopsie! Surprised you’re not pissed at this because you could have protected an IC, but actually I’m not surprised because you’re not town

Oh don't get me wrong I am pissed, but, I see their logic, and its been done. They didn't know if there wa a protective.

I've been hinting at all this all game btw.

Their logic is that they're scumsiding. There's simply no other explanation.

You two are just caught scum trying to avoid getting copped and killed

Whatever. Take the blinkers off. You're just damaging towns best chances rn.

Someone hammer.

If you are actually town we get to kill scumsiding 3P and an IC, which is still like our best case scenario. Not sure in what universe you think you get away with a protection of oil tonight if you actually were town anyways?? There's literally no scenario where putting you in and checking both of you is not in our best interest

Unless you're both scum in which case it sucks for you Oops

I have given you reasons, I have given you a viable alternative which will prove both of us.

In post 2949, Flea The Magician wrote:

In post 2944, superbowl9 wrote:

In post 2941, Flea The Magician wrote:You're genuinely frustrating me.

Oil is a Survivor, oil needs to keep me happy to live. because like balls am I targetting them with my protection tonight. If they want to ensure their survival, they will use their positive power.

If Oil does not, one of us dies. Scums best shot, is oil or me.

Without me, Oil cannot survive.

Oils hand is forced. As is mine.

Let's pretend in fucking fantasy land that you're town for one moment.

1. Why do you believe apparently 100% Oil's claim? They just admitted to killing our IC.

They admitted INDIRECT INVOLVEMENT and gave reason for roleblocking everyone, get the worst one out of the way sooner rather than later.

In post 2944, superbowl9 wrote: 2.

Why are you afraid of dying whatsoever? You will get copped by bell and show up green, so you are in no danger of being limmed. You will be in no danger of dying during the night since you can self-protect.

Self protecting REMOVES ME FROM THE GAME. I can't just vanish for one night, I have to vanish for multiple phases.

In post 2944, superbowl9 wrote:
Clearly you want to avoid the arena, which should IC you if you're town and show us whether Oil is required to scumside. Thus you are not town.

Yes, and I wanted to as soon as I saw oils claim because I know I can prevent all NKs tonight. Oil is survivor and I'm their best damn shot at surviving.
Without me, they, cannot, win.

In post 2944, superbowl9 wrote:

Your logic in your post is also once again wrong. If Oil uses the town-sided action, why would they then turn into scum's best target as a claimed 3P vanilla over an OP protective????? If Oil doesn't use the town-sided action (which they fucking won't because WHY WOULD THEY IT DOESNT HELP THEIR WINCON), scum still does not kill them because the same logic will keep on applying (much less over a god-doc). OR, scum could just shoot the claimed fucking investigative and avoid this shit altogether. This is literally moonlogic that you keep repeating

I don't go in the arena, you do. We Elim you.
I protect Bell.
Oil uses Positive report.
-Nobody dies.
Oil decides "nah fuck this".
-Me or Oil die.

Oil is now fucked. Bell can still investigate someone else, or 2 people if you're ballsy enough.

Ok, I hate to admit it but I agree with SB here.

This sounds too good to be true. If you are what you claim to be, why did you out yourself for trying to save a god damn 3P who

If you are are our protective, you threw our game to save a 3P! Instead of keeping it to yourself This is ridiculous! You are either throwing the game or your claim is fake and you are trying to bail a partner out! which means that oil is most likely not a 3p after all, he is your scum buddy! Because 3P Survivors are never partnered (as far as I know).

Self hammer, go into the arena and get checked by bell or you both get the axe!

I will never consider giving Oil another chance after this, this is way too fishy!

Get in the bin guill, SURVIVORS JUST NEED TO BE ENDGAMED. THEY DON'T CARE HOW.

Right now, Oil is my pet. If they like it or not.

I was E1 and was going to have to claim anyway.

Once again, for the childred present...

We moonshot todays elimination in Sb or Guill.

Oil is forced to use their positive power tonight, I protect Bell.
We keep our investigative.
Scum shoots me, or oil, or bell.
Bell shot is denied regardless.
I die - or - oil dies - or - NOBODY DIES.

this confirms me and oil at this point.

We play from there.

In post 2885, Bell wrote:4. I don't think I did and i don't think this is directed at me, but if it was: I don't object to your play this game regardless of your alignment.

It was not aimed at you, no.

Oh, and Bell? I'd give 2961 a long, hard look if I were you.

In post 2965, Oil Tycoons wrote:Oh, and Bell? I'd give 2961 a long, hard look if I were you.

I can't tell if you're saying guillotine has come off as insincere the whole game or if, yes, flea really is scum this game.

I suspect the former, but likely not in those words.

In post 2963, Flea The Magician wrote:Once again, for the childred present...

We moonshot todays elimination in Sb or Guill.

Oil is forced to use their positive power tonight, I protect Bell.
We keep our investigative.
Scum shoots me, or oil, or bell.
Bell shot is denied regardless.
I die - or - oil dies - or - NOBODY DIES.

this confirms me and oil at this point.

We play from there.

You are delusional.

I will tell you what i think happened.

Oil got nominated and you realized how bad it looked for you, so you offered yourselves to go into the arena with a promise of a double elimination to make us think that you had to be town if you were willing to sacrifice your life to solve oil and yourselves.

When you saw that we actually took your word for it, you realized the magnitude of your mistake and tried to backtrack from it claiming an unbelievable protective set of abilities so we saved you, while bargaining on your alleged power to try to save Oil as well.

What you didn't have into account is that bell would claim to have an ability to confirm you both.

Your case is the typical case of WIFOM gone wrong.

Flea just get checked and clear our doubts. You already outed your super doc role to save a 3p. We must need to know if you were that game throwing or if you are actually scum.

I will be really disappointed if you are town and claimed your real role to save a 3P here.

I will promise you this though, if you are town i will be the first in line to chop SB's head because he's gone out of his way to push you into the arena when he's been non existent the entire game until now. But if you are wolf i will have to re-evaluate because his push would look great.

I'm off for the night. Family is getting too jealous i spend too much time playing mafia than with them and they are right.

In post 2967, Guillotina wrote:

In post 2963, Flea The Magician wrote:Once again, for the childred present...

We moonshot todays elimination in Sb or Guill.

Oil is forced to use their positive power tonight, I protect Bell.
We keep our investigative.
Scum shoots me, or oil, or bell.
Bell shot is denied regardless.
I die - or - oil dies - or - NOBODY DIES.

this confirms me and oil at this point.

We play from there.

You are delusional.

I will tell you what i think happened.

Oil got nominated and you realized how bad it looked for you, so you offered yourselves to go into the arena with a promise of a double elimination to make us think that you had to be town if you were willing to sacrifice your life to solve oil and yourselves.

When you saw that we actually took your word for it, you realized the magnitude of your mistake and tried to backtrack from it claiming an unbelievable protective set of abilities so we saved you, while bargaining on your alleged power to try to save Oil as well.

What you didn't have into account is that bell would claim to have an ability to confirm you both.

Your case is the typical case of WIFOM gone wrong.

Flea just get checked and clear our doubts. You already outed your super doc role to save a 3p. We must need to know if you were that game throwing or if you are actually scum.

I will be really disappointed if you are town and claimed your real role to save a 3P here.

I will promise you this though, if you are town i will be the first in line to chop SB's head because he's gone out of his way to push you into the arena when he's been non existent the entire game until now. But if you are wolf i will have to re-evaluate because his push would look great.

I'm off for the night. Family is getting too jealous i spend too much time playing mafia than with them and they are right.

This argument is fine imo.

It's not the best if Flea's town.
But it will do.

VOTE: Flea

Sorry for putting you in this position of if you're town flea. You can push on people for reading you wrong all day once I clear you.

I would advise actually going for guilotine if you're town. btw. They use too many exclamation marks.
Which is the scummiest scum tell.

Stick to the plan.

Sb comes off as genuine fmpov.
opps if wrong.

a 3P we can use. a 3P who has not scumsided but has acted in their best interests. I was going in the arena regardless, lets face it. I'm USR.

Now you can all kiss my butt while I jump out of the time stream.
You lost your doc.

THEY CLEARLY SCUMSIDED YOU CANT JUST SAY ACTED IN THEIR BEST INTERESTS THEIR INTERESTS WERE SCUM

They had to use it anyway at some point. We had potential for more conftown after what was said D1.
I see their reasons AND I WOULD'VE DONE THE SAME.

Please enlighten me as to why you’d use that power on the night we get an IC besides to SCUMSIDE

Because it needed to be used, and there was enough hints that others would become IC.

In post 2973, Flea The Magician wrote:Because it needed to be used, and there was enough hints that others would become IC.

We understand it needed to be used AT SOME POINT. The argument is if you're townsiding you can use neutral or even positive night 1, because as you yourself said the IC is obviously getting protected N1 - unless you REMOVE PROTECTIVES' ABILITIES. Tell me, assume Oil's claim is true and assume Oil had used the neutral action night 1. Do you think Mastina would still be with us?