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Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:43 pm
by Fun and Games
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:44 pm
by Fun and Games
In post 2931, VP Baltar wrote:
I'm saying that if the questioning a50 about his ditch od the gamma wagon is nearly as crucial of an element to scum!VP's D1 game, then it doesn't make a lot of sense for me to want to kill him N2 right after a Gamma flip, since that'd be putting these cards directly on the table.
i don't think these 2 thinsg are related to each other at all, the fact that you pushed a50 doesn't preclude yuou from killing him ...?
~ skitter
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:45 pm
by Fun and Games
its literally the same way you treated ico
you put him null. you shade him as scummy
you find excuses to not vote him
you push people that r not him to die
you end up voting lhf together
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:45 pm
by VP Baltar
In post 2943, Andante wrote:Just like the ammount of effort VP is actually putting into this, makes me feel like VP could be town as well
Look, my greatest fear here is like an enchant-SA or Bingle team here and they are laughing their butts off at today.
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:49 pm
by VP Baltar
In post 2949, Fun and Games wrote:ig vp what pooky is thinking (and what i think too) is that you don't have any reasons to townread dwlee, but you're at the same time reluctant to vote there, and it looks partner-y to me
~ skitter
Can you just tell me why I should vote him?
From my perspective, I'm just being badgered to vote a slot for ~handwaving~ by a slot I'm not certain is town. How then hell are you making associatives on a slot that hasn't flipped?
I'm not being unreasonable just asking for your thought process on dwlee.
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:50 pm
by VP Baltar
In post 2951, Fun and Games wrote: In post 2931, VP Baltar wrote:
I'm saying that if the questioning a50 about his ditch od the gamma wagon is nearly as crucial of an element to scum!VP's D1 game, then it doesn't make a lot of sense for me to want to kill him N2 right after a Gamma flip, since that'd be putting these cards directly on the table.
i don't think these 2 thinsg are related to each other at all, the fact that you pushed a50 doesn't preclude yuou from killing him ...?
~ skitter
As scum you absolutely think about blowback and optics of a kill. At least I do.
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:51 pm
by Andante
ughhh I'm staring at a Dwlee ISO and my brain hurts. Look, here's what I don't want to happen. a F&G/VP/Dwlee town world. which I'm starting to fear we're in. we need to at least think about other options for a second, and stop fighting each other,
I completely understand wanting to yell at VP for everything he says, it's insanely annoying, also why I'm kinda down to just lim VP and deal with whatever's left tomorrow... I have a feeling we'll take the full 9 days here for D3
Enchant/SA/Toog has at least 1 town... I need more from all 3 of those slots, if we're being honest
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:52 pm
by VP Baltar
What'd the vote count even at?
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:53 pm
by VP Baltar
Andante, what is your read of bingle again?
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:54 pm
by Andante
In post 1402, DArby wrote: In post 1349, VP Baltar wrote:FWIW, DArby's absence today isn't doing him any favors. I'm probably willing to compromise on that yeet if we need to in the next day or two.
I probably should go on V/LA soon. I’m moving cities next month + finishing this semester.
I'm not sure VP is Darby's partner, I'm reading through the ISO,
@People convinced F&G is scum, look as Darby's ISO, I think that's pretty clear that F&G isn't with Darby
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:54 pm
by Bingle
SA is afk until Monday, but I could stand to hear from toog and enchant.
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:55 pm
by Andante
who even knows what my current read is
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:55 pm
by Andante
I wish I read more of Darby's ISO than just the first posts, way too many interactions with Gamma to be partners. whatever... Gamma selfed D1, Gamma was asking for it D2
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:57 pm
by Andante
Darby isn't with SA, SA is gonna be town
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:59 pm
by VP Baltar
I'm just assuming replacement at this point......
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:02 pm
by VP Baltar
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:03 pm
by Bingle
I don’t think anyone has been voting for a while.
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:04 pm
by VP Baltar
Think a few things moved. Mostly interested where it is om dwlee
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:05 pm
by Andante
In post 1490, DArby wrote:F&G, VP, Datsi are all town from the last few posts I've seen.
Bingle and Gamma are null, where posts feels less solve focus and more expaniding on things already said.
In post 1516, DArby wrote: In post 1503, Bingle wrote: In post 1487, DArby wrote: In post 1458, Bingle wrote:
I think I've seen Darby in a game recently (although I don't remember which one) and thinking his play was good. I also don't remember what alignment he was. But gth I wouldn't put it past him. I'll update this after I'm caught up and can look to figure out which game that was.
To date I have no finished games as scum.
Found it. You were killed by my event (also read: the one everyone hated) in squid game. Weird, I go the impression you were more experienced from your D1 play there.
People make that assumption because of how I type. Common misconception.
^This Bingle stuff: I think this reads as scum partners talking to each other, I'd have to read bingle more, but like, this feels like scum trying to just be "towny" by talking at each other, with nothing really relevant to the game
> I also don't remember what alignment he was. But gth I wouldn't put it past him
Like, classic partner thing to say.... "I know they are playing the exact same as another game, where they were scum"
I think the below stuff points towards Dunn/Toog partner, like "I'll go with meta!" "I hate meta.." I feel like if Dunn was town, there'd have been more questioning the meta for 1521
In post 1517, DArby wrote:I know Dunn is the other wagon of interest today, but other than the “boring ISO” post, what’s the reason behind it?
In post 1521, DArby wrote:Then if it’s meta, I can’t argue for or against. For now I’ll trust it.
VOTE: Dunn
In post 1686, DArby wrote:You probably mean the second.
I avoid meta reading as much as I can help it. I’d rather gauge the reaction of those who actually did it.
It’s really unfun for me to read games Im not apart of. :/
tldr: sus of bingle/toog(dunn)
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:05 pm
by Fun and Games
In post 2954, VP Baltar wrote: In post 2949, Fun and Games wrote:ig vp what pooky is thinking (and what i think too) is that you don't have any reasons to townread dwlee, but you're at the same time reluctant to vote there, and it looks partner-y to me
~ skitter
Can you just tell me why I should vote him?
From my perspective, I'm just being badgered to vote a slot for ~handwaving~ by a slot I'm not certain is town. How then hell are you making associatives on a slot that hasn't flipped?
I'm not being unreasonable just asking for your thought process on dwlee.
They're the only person i feel like i yave no reason to townread, and their scumread on us is laughably bad, and given that you're not townreading them either i'm not sure ehy you're reluctant
~ skitter
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:06 pm
by Andante
I almost doubt first post of the game like this is to your partner, means Enchant likely town
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:06 pm
by Fun and Games
In post 2955, VP Baltar wrote:As scum you absolutely think about blowback and optics of a kill. At least I do.
Can u explain this again, i'm not following?
~ skitter
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:07 pm
by Andante
I don't *think* Bingle/Icon team, so bingle town
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:09 pm
by Andante
Reading Icon's ISO I can say without a doubt F&G is town, so seriously, people trying to fight them, just go look at Icon/Darby's ISO, seriously
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:10 pm
by Andante
In post 513, Iconeum wrote: In post 240, VP Baltar wrote:
Found his explanation of optimal town play related to the roles to be authentic in trying to simply explain what he saw as the best moves for town.
which is like the easiest thing for scum to use and gain town credit
that's an easy read you make there VP
I'm not so sure scum says this to their partner so early in the game