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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:21 am
by Harley Quinn
In post 2946, MathBlade wrote: In post 2945, Titus wrote: In post 2942, Harley Quinn wrote: In post 2938, implosion wrote:yeah if we're massclaiming we should massclaim... if not we shouldn't. This is why I wanted to wait for more consensus. I guess trying to get any real consensus on anything at all in this town is like asking a giraffe to do algebra though
I don’t even understand why it’s necessary unless someone is lying and it doesn’t look like any pr claims aren’t legit.
That's precisely why we are massclaiming. The PR claims on the table means about half of the town is already claimed.
We get knowledge from if a doctor exists or doesn't.
Mechanics and votes are what I do. Please trust me.
I don’t.
I would rather be elimmed than follow your plan.
I still don’t understand why you think my plan is suss but I don’t care enough to argue with you about it.
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:21 am
by Enchant
In post 2948, Aristeia wrote:another thing
if we lim enchant and he is scum ascetic cop then universal backup if it exists becomes ascetic cop and scum have no idea where ub is
Or he turns in Bulletproof. Which is...
Hm. Idk. Is random guy getting BP is powerful?
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:23 am
by MathBlade
In post 2948, Aristeia wrote:another thing
if we lim enchant and he is scum ascetic cop then universal backup if it exists becomes ascetic cop and scum have no idea where ub is
I do not want Enchant today. I don’t scumread Enchant
I wish enchant would do things
But I don’t think Enchant is scum
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:24 am
by MathBlade
In post 2950, Harley Quinn wrote: In post 2946, MathBlade wrote: In post 2945, Titus wrote: In post 2942, Harley Quinn wrote: In post 2938, implosion wrote:yeah if we're massclaiming we should massclaim... if not we shouldn't. This is why I wanted to wait for more consensus. I guess trying to get any real consensus on anything at all in this town is like asking a giraffe to do algebra though
I don’t even understand why it’s necessary unless someone is lying and it doesn’t look like any pr claims aren’t legit.
That's precisely why we are massclaiming. The PR claims on the table means about half of the town is already claimed.
We get knowledge from if a doctor exists or doesn't.
Mechanics and votes are what I do. Please trust me.
I don’t.
I would rather be elimmed than follow your plan.
I still don’t understand why you think my plan is suss but I don’t care enough to argue with you about it.
It’s a common scum ploy I can’t go into detail at work but mass claims are always all or none
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:27 am
by Titus
I'm half convinced it's Ari plus Math again.
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:28 am
by MathBlade
Hey and I still think you’re scum.
What’s new?
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:29 am
by Harley Quinn
Titus do you think my plan has merit? I don’t see why it’s not the best solution. here?
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:30 am
by Titus
In post 2956, Harley Quinn wrote:
Titus do you think my plan has merit? I don’t see why it’s not the best solution. here?
Math is right. Half and half is bullshit.
My plan or my plan with Gamma's modification or none.
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:30 am
by MathBlade
Define “consensus” or I don’t give a fuck and am against
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:31 am
by Titus
If Math and I agree on something mechanical, regardless of his alignment, it's likely true.
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:32 am
by Bellaphant
A few people asked, sorry, but yes - I'm vr because I wanted tracker and someone above me got it, which lines up with claims.
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:33 am
by Harley Quinn
If no one is listening to me or can explain why it’s not the most optimal, Idk why I’m even wasting my time with this. I just keep getting told it’s either bs or scummy, which makes 0 sense to me since no one has yet bothered to explain it and just outright dismisses it.
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:35 am
by Harley Quinn
I think that’s kind of obvious no? Players most people are tr obviously.
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:35 am
by Save The Dragons
i just don't know who "consensus" trs are in this game which i think is the problem.
so just letting people off the hook isn't a good idea because what if we're wrong? we're not really utilizing the power of massclaim if we let people off the hook
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:36 am
by Harley Quinn
Anyway, I’ll be back later when people have made up their minds.
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:36 am
by Bellaphant
I think titus' first idea works?
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:42 am
by Ausuka
Maybe it's hypocritical since I already claimed but I don't really see the need for massclaim here, we out our remaining PRs without much direct benefit seemingly
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:42 am
by Harley Quinn
In post 2963, Save The Dragons wrote:i just don't know who "consensus" trs are in this game which i think is the problem.
so just letting people off the hook isn't a good idea because what if we're wrong? we're not really utilizing the power of massclaim if we let people off the hook
But doesn’t it help scum know where to shoot though or maybe I’m just not really understanding this. I’m okay personally with claiming, I’m just worried about outing a potential doc but maybe Titus is right?
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:45 am
by Save The Dragons
there's a lot of outed roles, who does scum shoot? it's a buffet. shooting the doc is probably the case but the doc could be jked. shooting the jk could be fine but maybe the jk is doctored. shooting the cop might be okay but what if they're doctored?
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:46 am
by Wallflower
Just woke up but I'm not really seeing the benefit of massclaim at a glance
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:47 am
by Harley Quinn
In post 2966, Ausuka wrote:Maybe it's hypocritical since I already claimed but I don't really see the need for massclaim here, we out our remaining PRs without much direct benefit seemingly
I also wonder that unless someone picked a really scummy pr then does it necessarily tell us anything about their alignment especially if we go in order?
If someone claimed something suspicious and no bp doesn’t qualify, why wouldn’t they just claim vt right?
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:49 am
by MathBlade
In post 2970, Harley Quinn wrote: In post 2966, Ausuka wrote:Maybe it's hypocritical since I already claimed but I don't really see the need for massclaim here, we out our remaining PRs without much direct benefit seemingly
I also wonder that unless someone picked a really scummy pr then does it necessarily tell us anything about their alignment especially if we go in order?
If someone claimed something suspicious and no bp doesn’t qualify, why wouldn’t they just claim vt right?
They could but then if a VT comes along that says that category they could be busted
That’s why I could see it working but I think how Titus is pushing for it so much makes me not want it
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:49 am
by Harley Quinn
In post 2968, Save The Dragons wrote:there's a lot of outed roles, who does scum shoot? it's a buffet. shooting the doc is probably the case but the doc could be jked. shooting the jk could be fine but maybe the jk is doctored. shooting the cop might be okay but what if they're doctored?
If Enchant is bp then there can’t be a cop.
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:50 am
by Save The Dragons
that assumes enchant is lying about bp
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:53 am
by Save The Dragons
like i see some merit to this because it pigeonholes scum into certain claims and prevents faking later on when more people are dead and are unable to give away information. we might even get a 1v1 if scum want to directly try and take out a role. i can understand reluctance but i see some benefits