Well that's fantastic. It's either Luca or gobble that is the last scum. I feel much better about this now. I finally have someone I literally can't flip flop on anymore.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:53 am
by Chemist1422
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:23 am
by Tchill13
I'm trying to determine what Luca can and can not push anymore....
Klick is conf town. So there's 2 scum for sure in (uzi/gobble/tchill) from his perspective.
I'd love to see the reason scum have for clearing someone in lylo....
One scum has to be LUV from my pov.
Then it comes down to a VT that naked voted in lylo with nothing solid to back him up or a slot that had a suspicious claim...
We lynch uzi. Gobble then guards klick. If klick dies gobble is scum claiming so I should be the n3 nk.
This leaves klick/gobble/luca. Luca scum can't kill gobble here and gobble scum can't kill Luca here.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:17 am
by Tchill13
Whenever you can Luca just provide thoughts in klick being conf town and me going out of my way to conf town klick.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:37 pm
by Luca Blight
That is hilarious. You do have some nerve.
I
was the one who went out of my way to conf Town Klick when you were still shading him. I literally did it at the expense of my own Townreads, which I wouldn’t have done as scum.
We’re not lynching Uzi today as that would be game over.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:52 pm
by Tchill13
As expected.
This is fine. I believe we can get gobble to vote uzi. I think klick will come around eventually.
It really comes down to the gobble interaction with klick.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:57 pm
by Tchill13
@klick @gobble
Klick isn't scum with Luca.
I'm not scum with luca.
Luca/gobble is not the team as they would have hammered uzi.
It is luca/uzi confirmed.
Of course this is from the perspective that I'm town.
Which is why gobble will protect klick after the uzi lynch.
Me/klick votes Luca the next day phase.
After my town flip. Klick/gobble will vote Luca after I'm killed in the night phase.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:18 pm
by Tchill13
Gobble/uzi could still be scum theoretically. It's not proven they can't be yet.
If I'm choosing between Luca (voted someone in lylo without concrete evidence) or gobble (shady claim)
I'm picking Luca.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:02 pm
by Luca Blight
I'm back from V/LA. I will begin my case soon.
Klick, if you're around over the next 4/5 hours then let me know and we can have a real time chat, which might help you with your read on me.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:02 pm
by Tchill13
Oh boy I'm gone be here the whole time for that.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:06 pm
by Tchill13
@klick
If there's a way you can come up with to confirm it's not tchill/gobble I'm all ears.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:11 pm
by Tchill13
I think the fact that I pushed klick so hard opening lylo Confirms that given klicks last reads D2 were gobble town luca/luv scum team.
If I was determined to just mislynch luv its a much better idea to pander to klick because of that reads list opposed to trying to talk Luca into voting luv (who he's town read the entire game)
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:12 pm
by Luca Blight
The only way way that could happen is if we give you both the chance to hammer, which would be the end of the game as you're the scum team.
But you already know this. You're trying to play innocent but you know exactly what you're doing.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:14 pm
by Luca Blight
....And if I were scum I wouldn't have voted Gobble, confirming that Klick is Town and confirming to two players who hard TR me that I'm scum.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:15 pm
by Tchill13
In post 2262, Klick wrote:I buy what you're selling. Particularly that you wouldn't have killed Ali.
It's worth noting that there's not a chance I kill Ali last night either, unless I/my partner saw the crumb. I was in his good books.
Gobble's not scum and I think that's pretty obvious.
I'm ready to accept that I could be wrong on Billy/LUV.
Datisi doesn't feel like scum here, particularly in the last few pages of getting annoyed with me. At first I thought she was being defeatist to try and get townread, but I don't think doing it to this level is quite within her range.
I'm falling on LUV/Luca as a team and I think it makes a fair amount of sense. Luca's read on LUV has flip-flopped enough that I'm not sold on it being coherent.
PEdit: I mean everything you're saying is consistent with the kind of stuff I've read from your past scum PTs I do think there are certain things people just don't do when they're scum that they do when they're town. To that end, meta isn't trash.
In post 2877, Klick wrote:Gobble has shown no hesitance. He was prepared to straight-up lynch me/LUV.
Why does a tchill/gobble team BOTH try to get Luca to vote LUV instead of getting klick to vote LUV after klicks reads list?
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:18 pm
by Luca Blight
You were trying to open me up to vote Klick, and the reason is to keep your options open.
In LYLO scum want as many potential outs as pssoble. They don't want it coming down to a 50/50, which is what I made it with my Gobble vote.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:20 pm
by Tchill13
In post 2988, Luca Blight wrote:....And if I were scum I wouldn't have voted Gobble, confirming that Klick is Town and confirming to two players who hard TR me that I'm scum.
MY VOTE CONFIRMED HE WAS TOWN. I put someone at L-1 and klick didn't hammer.
All your vote actually did was confirm you or gobble as scum see how you put gobble at L-2.
Your vote ruled technically ruled out
Klick/uzi
Klick/tchill
My gobble vote effectively ruled out every possible klick team except
Klick/gobble
Which is impossible because that team would have hammered uzi on account of my vote.
You ain't got the clout like I do. Sit down son.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:22 pm
by Luca Blight
Yes, my vote ruled out Klick/Uzi which was the main thing you and Gobble were pushing, thus virtually clearing him as Town.
Your vote didn't clear shit, he was already confirmed town by that point due to the letter and my Gobble vote and never getting lynched, as you well know. The fact you're trying to take credit for that when it was a mere formality is further proof that you're scum trying to twist the situation to your advantage.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:23 pm
by Tchill13
In post 2990, Luca Blight wrote:You were trying to open me up to vote Klick, and the reason is to keep your options open.
In LYLO scum want as many potential outs as pssoble. They don't want it coming down to a 50/50, which is what I made it with my Gobble vote.
Nope. Scum don't risk "more options" for a "most likely to win" scenario. Sorry.
If scum risk using klick as the 3rd vote just to try and get another townie to flip on a hard tr he's had all game then that scum team doesn't deserve to win.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:23 pm
by Tchill13
Na Na Na boo boo Luca's full of shiiiiiit.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:24 pm
by Tchill13
Haha.
Luca calls it bullshit when I don't vote gobble.
Luca calls it bullshit when I do vote gobble.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:26 pm
by Luca Blight
As it happens I
don't
think scum deserve to win, which is why I would be particularly pissed off if you end up winning this game. I've suspected you were scum since the start of D2 and now following your transparently fake claim you are obvious scum.
You voted Gobble for a split second knowing full well he wouldn't be hammered?
Yes, I call BS on that meaning anything at all.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:33 pm
by Luca Blight
Tchill has tried to hype up his Gobble vote to something massive, as if it actually meant anything.
In reality it was a mere formality. Gobble was never getting hammered by Klick.
Klick was already conf town and never getting lynched following my Gobble vote. Tchill's used it as an opportunity to make out he''s done Klick a favour, when it was virtually meaningless.