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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:55 am
by Pink Ball
Yeah yeah I feel you that's why I backed off quickly

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:55 am
by Pink Ball
Like just when I ended writting my post I thought "god I wish I was shot" so same

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:57 am
by farside22
In post 2971, Pink Ball wrote:I'm starting to think that I'm wrong in one of Dunn and spring, and that beeboy is the third scum with midway and one of Dunn and spring
My scum read is spring/ dunn and either mid or tse.

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:07 am
by Pink Ball
Spring first then. Dunn is my least scumread out of the three

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:38 am
by midwaybear
why is tse scum? His behavior is very similar to ABR who flipped town.

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:48 am
by farside22
In post 2979, midwaybear wrote:why is tse scum? His behavior is very similar to ABR who flipped town.
Abr wasn't as tunneling as tse. And Abr was pushing other reads. All tse is sing the same mantra repeatedly. Without adding anything new.

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:13 pm
by farside22
In post 2979, midwaybear wrote:why is tse scum? His behavior is very similar to ABR who flipped town.
Why were you fine with TSE and less fine with Titus if you feel the way you do about the 2?

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:14 pm
by beeboy
@mod vla until the 22nd


am sick this is a made up date.
Will still be on my computer but I don't want to feel obligated to post until I get healthy.

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:27 pm
by Dunnstral
'Sabotage Checker' sounds like it checks to see if mafia chose to fail the quiz or not externally, rather than check an individual person. or am i on the wrong track?
It does look like he was softing something with Farside that from my point of view at the time made no sense at all

I'm not mafia so here are the possibilities:

1) Spring is mafia
2) Starbuck is mafia and either went for a wifom play or was forced to vote pass
3) Outside interference

What was the mafia reward for failing the quiz?

@Mod What happens if we lynch one of the 3 players in the list today? And can mafia choose to nokill tonight?

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:36 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 2963, midwaybear wrote:
hurt: spring, ND, midway

we are lynching dunnstral so replace him with ND
In post 2964, midwaybear wrote:
hurt: spring, dunn, Starbuck
...?

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:40 pm
by Pink Ball
In post 2983, Dunnstral wrote:'Sabotage Checker' sounds like it checks to see if mafia chose to fail the quiz or not externally, rather than check an individual person. or am i on the wrong track?
It does look like he was softing something with Farside that from my point of view at the time made no sense at all

I'm not mafia so here are the possibilities:

1) Spring is mafia
2) Starbuck is mafia and either went for a wifom play or was forced to vote pass
3) Outside interference

What was the mafia reward for failing the quiz?

@Mod What happens if we lynch one of the 3 players in the list today? And can mafia choose to nokill tonight?
I'll take Spring is mafia for 200$ Alex.

Also good question. The first one, the second I think it's "yes, as always" but I get why would you ask it.

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:41 pm
by Pink Ball
In post 2984, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2963, midwaybear wrote:
hurt: spring, ND, midway

we are lynching dunnstral so replace him with ND
In post 2964, midwaybear wrote:
hurt: spring, dunn, Starbuck
...?
Also good catch.

Dunn I so want you to be town

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:17 pm
by Starbuck
In post 2983, Dunnstral wrote:2) Starbuck is mafia and either went for a wifom play or was forced to vote pass
Still not mafia. But good try.

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:30 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
In post 266, farside22 wrote:
In post 239, Starbuck wrote:Meh, I'm pretty sure we've had this discussion in the past. My town read comes off scummy most of the time. I'm used to it.
Okay I'll bite for a moment.
I expected from the sign up for this game you would be more excited to play and be a bit more bubbly in your posting. Instead you came into it like someone pissed in your cherrios and hated everything this game represented.
That was exactly how I read your start. No hey, no good humor. And since then you where defensive, OMGUS and to top it off your reads are basically not saying much.
Lets review.
In post 235, Starbuck wrote:So far, I'm not really liking SirCakez continual whiteknighting of beeboy to me when there's no real reason to do so. It's feeling like a way to be active without necessarily commenting on much else.

TSE's overreaction and subsequent posts have just been weird.

I'm not sure how I'm feeling on farside as she's understandably curious/suspicious, but I'm not sure if it's quite genuine or not.

Dunnstral isn't giving me warning bells, so I'm leaning town there. I've also appreciated Raya's contributions and feeling town there, as well.

I'm neutral/town-ish on beeboy because I can see where the difference of gameplay might have come from and willing to trust others who seem to have read him as town.

I need ABR, unwnd, spring, midway, Pink Ball, and NDmath to post more.

Cakez - mmmm ok I kind of glossed over the back and forth but I recall he called you out for throwing shade on Beeboy, which is how I read the post too by the way, and therefore wking him? (I'm going to come back to this in a larger format soon)
TSE - that is vague
farside - fence sitting
beeboy - trending carefully on that read
and the rest (all on gilligans island!)
So in short all that and you have 1 scum read and few town reads. Not to mention the excuses I read are killing me inside.
The "it's been so long since I played a game of mafia" and "trying to get my foot into the game", the "struggling to get a read in the game".
That is literally scum claiming 102 in my world.

In post 243, beeboy wrote:I think Raya believes what they are saying. Farside you have solid points about the reads themselves and they aren't particularly reads I would back up but I also think Raya stand by what she is saying. I also don't particularly see inconsistencies with how she is approaching the game which is more what I tend to look for when I try and identify people with bad reads.

I could be wrong here but I do think she is town.
'

Most players town or scum can believe what they are saying. After catching up I'm thinking Raya was trying to pocket unwnd because that town read and reasoning looks like shit.
And that was the most pleasant way I would say that.
In post 254, unwnd wrote:God my cat submitted for me mid-thought

Anyways, I enjoy reading the room. I look at the game and think about the direction it's going in and who is exactly determining said direction. I find a dichotomy between town controlling the thread and scum controlling it is something that proves beneficial over time. You have games where enthusiastic scum may take a quick jump to gain influence and as I see it now I don't think that's happening. I again sit at beeboy being fine and he can continue to be fine until something changes. I mention this however because when there is a established presence then all scum really have to do is nod their head and make agreeable posts. This is where ND bothered me first and foremost. TSE largely remains weird, but I think if he's scum he's going to exaggerate more of his absurdity than less of it so it's not really a good look either way. I think Starbuck/Farside have similar posting traits but what comes out of them is vastly different. Farside seems more antagonistic/forth-right while Starbuck remains passive and slightly on the defensive.
I used to be a lot worse and more bitchy. This is pretty tame for me and there were a few times I didn't say anything because it would have just been me telling someone off more then playing the game.
I’m going to keep this to look at Interaction wise.

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:31 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
Even if Farside is Mafia I doubt they are going to instantly pass it to Starbuck.
That would be a bold move that may end up being considered an open wolf.

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:33 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
In post 2952, unwnd wrote:I'm happy that the quiz passed but I'm just going to say that I proxy'd someone in the quiz last night so either

1) It was right
2) They were passing anyways
Is one of their names Farside or Starbuck by any chance?

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:33 pm
by midwaybear
In post 2986, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 2984, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2963, midwaybear wrote:
hurt: spring, ND, midway

we are lynching dunnstral so replace him with ND
In post 2964, midwaybear wrote:
hurt: spring, dunn, Starbuck
...?
Also good catch.

Dunn I so want you to be town
wth is this? I made a genuine mistake, and you think it is scummy now?
People, think for YOURSELF :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:34 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
In no way should Starbuck be a Town read nor do I understand how they are a townread.
Cake scum read them.

@Farside I want your full read on Starbuck in full detail.

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:41 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 2992, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:In no way should Starbuck be a Town read nor do I understand how they are a townread.
Cake scum read them.

@Farside I want your full read on Starbuck in full detail.
Look at Raya's role and what he was doing day 2

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:46 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
In post 2993, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2992, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:In no way should Starbuck be a Town read nor do I understand how they are a townread.
Cake scum read them.

@Farside I want your full read on Starbuck in full detail.
Look at Raya's role and what he was doing day 2
I’m trying to get more of a view on Farside so I’d like them to do as I ask.

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:15 pm
by Pink Ball
In post 2991, midwaybear wrote:
In post 2986, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 2984, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2963, midwaybear wrote:
hurt: spring, ND, midway

we are lynching dunnstral so replace him with ND
In post 2964, midwaybear wrote:
hurt: spring, dunn, Starbuck
...?
Also good catch.

Dunn I so want you to be town
wth is this? I made a genuine mistake, and you think it is scummy now?
People, think for YOURSELF :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
I am thinking for myself. I think your mistake is scummy, and that this overreaction is scummy too

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:27 pm
by midwaybear
why is it scummy(the mistake)?
conf bias alert

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:30 pm
by Pink Ball
Why isn't?

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:33 pm
by midwaybear
In post 2997, Pink Ball wrote:Why isn't?
because it was a mistake and I meant to say ND instead of Dunn?
:facepalm: this is not scumhunting Pink Ball. This is you being conf biased unless you give me a good reason why me making that mistake is scum.

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:47 pm
by Pink Ball
Ok