Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[Remilia Scarlet]

They also don't have any real defense of their slot, so they have to play the self meta-discredit game, which is also scum indicative.

I don't think this is necessarily true either. I think it's player specific and probably situation specific too.

[April Ludgate]

Also, Titus vs Alisae, which you obviously saw, my Day 1 analysis on going through the brains of Alisae and creating my pool was in fact correct, so there's truth that I know how scumAlisae thinks in that kind of position as well. This is different, yes, but I believe that should bring trust, at least from you here, maybe Maria.

[April Ludgate]

They also don't have any real defense of their slot, so they have to play the self meta-discredit game, which is also scum indicative.

I don't think this is necessarily true either. I think it's player specific and probably situation specific too.

Yes, but if we're talking about people familiar with Alisae, I am up there near the top as well, would I not be?

[April Ludgate]

{Midway, Bell,}
{PLusjoyed, Remilia, Muffin, Secret Tunnels}
{Bulge, S_S, 420prism} <- we think there is at least one scum here or above. we're not sure where.
{April*}
{Maria, Alisae}

* treating this slot as having made a miller claim. Town needs to revisit in a huge way on day 3 at the latest. If we're alive on day 2, it may happen then depending on various ~things~

Day 3's good with me.

You're going to have deal with me tomorrow, not the other way around.

[Remilia Scarlet]

Yes, but if we're talking about people familiar with Alisae, I am up there near the top as well, would I not be?

Sorry, not understanding

[April Ludgate]

Alisae is apparently Morph's biggest scum read, but they're trying so hard to derail the momentum.


@Remelia - thoughts on that?

[morph the cat]

{Midway, Bell,}
{PLusjoyed, Remilia, Muffin, Secret Tunnels}
{Bulge, S_S, 420prism} <- we think there is at least one scum here or above. we're not sure where.
{April*}
{Maria, Alisae}

* treating this slot as having made a miller claim. Town needs to revisit in a huge way on day 3 at the latest. If we're alive on day 2, it may happen then depending on various ~things~

Day 3's good with me.

You're going to have deal with me tomorrow, not the other way around.

We'll see.

We expect you to try faking a guilty tomorrow. Probably on us.

It won't go well for you.

[Something_Smart]

I don't feel like you're describing anything that's alignment indicative in that I think it's just "the thing you have to do when playing mafia" to an extent

I mean, there are definitely differences in the way someone will respond to a correct accusation versus a false one. There's a nonzero chance that Alisae would object more vehemently to my read change as town than as scum, even if the gist of the objection was the same.

[April Ludgate]

ScumMorph could also be trying to get TownAlisae faded here even with their actions, if that makes sense. I also think they're setting to kill me in the night based on the way they've been talking about my slot. "Revisit late. revist. revisit."

when I die, dont let them get town credit because they were "planning to revisit"

[April Ludgate]

{Midway, Bell,}
{PLusjoyed, Remilia, Muffin, Secret Tunnels}
{Bulge, S_S, 420prism} <- we think there is at least one scum here or above. we're not sure where.
{April*}
{Maria, Alisae}

* treating this slot as having made a miller claim. Town needs to revisit in a huge way on day 3 at the latest. If we're alive on day 2, it may happen then depending on various ~things~

Day 3's good with me.

You're going to have deal with me tomorrow, not the other way around.

We'll see.

We expect you to try faking a guilty tomorrow. Probably on us.

It won't go well for you.

I don't fake guilties. Only innos.

[April Ludgate]

and only when im faking like a 3rd party.

[Remilia Scarlet]

Alisae is apparently Morph's biggest scum read, but they're trying so hard to derail the momentum.


@Remelia - thoughts on that?

ffery is playing in a way that is trying to PoE people and has Alisae in the list of people she has not been able to do that w/.

I don't equate "I am willing to vote Maid Cafe" as a derailment of that

[April Ludgate]

SS, protect me tonight.

[morph the cat]

Alisae is apparently Morph's biggest scum read, but they're trying so hard to derail the momentum.


@Remelia - thoughts on that?

The tiers don't have further implied order, but I do think that MariaR is a little more likely to be town than Alisae. I expected beeboy's entrance to be stronger if they're town. We need more interaction with them, despite whatever it does to your jacked up interpretation (real or not) of the gamestate.

[April Ludgate]

Alisae is apparently Morph's biggest scum read, but they're trying so hard to derail the momentum.


@Remelia - thoughts on that?

ffery is playing in a way that is trying to PoE people and has Alisae in the list of people she has not been able to do that w/.

I don't equate "I am willing to vote Maid Cafe" as a derailment of that

I disagree.

You need to look at the manner they pushed that at. They were almost threatening Maid Cafe with a "lucky I didn't vote you" kind of way.

They wanted Maid Cafe to give them more of a reason to full send.

[morph the cat]

Alisae is apparently Morph's biggest scum read, but they're trying so hard to derail the momentum.


@Remelia - thoughts on that?

ffery is playing in a way that is trying to PoE people and has Alisae in the list of people she has not been able to do that w/.

I don't equate "I am willing to vote Maid Cafe" as a derailment of that

Bork, you're scaring me.

[April Ludgate]

Alisae is apparently Morph's biggest scum read, but they're trying so hard to derail the momentum.


@Remelia - thoughts on that?

The tiers don't have further implied order, but I do think that MariaR is a little more likely to be town than Alisae. I expected beeboy's entrance to be stronger if they're town. We need more interaction with them, despite whatever it does to your jacked up interpretation (real or not) of the gamestate.

Well, you can go ahead and vote your highest scum read Alisae, then.

[Remilia Scarlet]

There's a nonzero chance that Alisae would object more vehemently to my read change as town than as scum, even if the gist of the objection was the same.

Agreed; some town players just AtE in a way that their scum-mirrors can never fake.

I just don't really see any vehemence here

[Remilia Scarlet]

Bork, you're scaring me.

????????

[April Ludgate]

eww, you guys are reading this as town Alisae AtE? I just am not seeing that. I'm reading it as classic scum AtE. Alisae AtE is much more genuine than that as town without all the nasty slippery actions they've taken.

[April Ludgate]

like, you guys have to look at it from other perspectives than just what they're saying.

Look at what they're doing, not what they're saying.

[morph the cat]

Bork, you're scaring me.

????????

You? Defending

me

? On day one?

[April Ludgate]

alisae is 1 scum, 1 scum is probably defending, 1 scum is probably bussing.

Lol, it's probably Alisae, Bell, morph. because of course if we're fucking up with this town block, it's the one that isn't under any scrutiny

[Remilia Scarlet]

Can't tell if you're just being snarky or if you're actually concerned about that

[April Ludgate]

Can't tell if you're just being snarky or if you're actually concerned about that

they're scum, they're just playing the field.