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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:22 am
by Remilia Scarlet
In post 2965, April Ludgate wrote:They also don't have any real defense of their slot, so they have to play the self meta-discredit game, which is also scum indicative.
I don't think this is necessarily true either. I think it's player specific and probably situation specific too.
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:22 am
by April Ludgate
Also, Titus vs Alisae, which you obviously saw, my Day 1 analysis on going through the brains of Alisae and creating my pool was in fact correct, so there's truth that I know how scumAlisae thinks in that kind of position as well. This is different, yes, but I believe that should bring trust, at least from you here, maybe Maria.
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:23 am
by April Ludgate
In post 2975, Remilia Scarlet wrote: In post 2965, April Ludgate wrote:They also don't have any real defense of their slot, so they have to play the self meta-discredit game, which is also scum indicative.
I don't think this is necessarily true either. I think it's player specific and probably situation specific too.
Yes, but if we're talking about people familiar with Alisae, I am up there near the top as well, would I not be?
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:23 am
by April Ludgate
In post 2974, morph the cat wrote:{Midway, Bell,}
{PLusjoyed, Remilia, Muffin, Secret Tunnels}
{Bulge, S_S, 420prism} <- we think there is at least one scum here or above. we're not sure where.
{April*}
{Maria, Alisae}
* treating this slot as having made a miller claim. Town needs to revisit in a huge way on day 3 at the latest. If we're alive on day 2, it may happen then depending on various ~things~
Day 3's good with me.
You're going to have deal with me tomorrow, not the other way around.
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:24 am
by Remilia Scarlet
In post 2977, April Ludgate wrote:Yes, but if we're talking about people familiar with Alisae, I am up there near the top as well, would I not be?
Sorry, not understanding
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:24 am
by April Ludgate
Alisae is apparently Morph's biggest scum read, but they're trying so hard to derail the momentum.
@Remelia - thoughts on that?
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:25 am
by morph the cat
In post 2978, April Ludgate wrote: In post 2974, morph the cat wrote:{Midway, Bell,}
{PLusjoyed, Remilia, Muffin, Secret Tunnels}
{Bulge, S_S, 420prism} <- we think there is at least one scum here or above. we're not sure where.
{April*}
{Maria, Alisae}
* treating this slot as having made a miller claim. Town needs to revisit in a huge way on day 3 at the latest. If we're alive on day 2, it may happen then depending on various ~things~
Day 3's good with me.
You're going to have deal with me tomorrow, not the other way around.
We'll see.
We expect you to try faking a guilty tomorrow. Probably on us.
It won't go well for you.
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:25 am
by Something_Smart
In post 2971, Remilia Scarlet wrote:I don't feel like you're describing anything that's alignment indicative in that I think it's just "the thing you have to do when playing mafia" to an extent
I mean, there are definitely differences in the way someone will respond to a correct accusation versus a false one. There's a nonzero chance that Alisae would object more vehemently to my read change as town than as scum, even if the gist of the objection was the same.
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:26 am
by April Ludgate
ScumMorph could also be trying to get TownAlisae faded here even with their actions, if that makes sense. I also think they're setting to kill me in the night based on the way they've been talking about my slot. "Revisit late. revist. revisit."
when I die, dont let them get town credit because they were "planning to revisit"
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:26 am
by April Ludgate
In post 2981, morph the cat wrote: In post 2978, April Ludgate wrote: In post 2974, morph the cat wrote:{Midway, Bell,}
{PLusjoyed, Remilia, Muffin, Secret Tunnels}
{Bulge, S_S, 420prism} <- we think there is at least one scum here or above. we're not sure where.
{April*}
{Maria, Alisae}
* treating this slot as having made a miller claim. Town needs to revisit in a huge way on day 3 at the latest. If we're alive on day 2, it may happen then depending on various ~things~
Day 3's good with me.
You're going to have deal with me tomorrow, not the other way around.
We'll see.
We expect you to try faking a guilty tomorrow. Probably on us.
It won't go well for you.
I don't fake guilties. Only innos.
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:27 am
by April Ludgate
and only when im faking like a 3rd party.
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:28 am
by Remilia Scarlet
In post 2980, April Ludgate wrote:Alisae is apparently Morph's biggest scum read, but they're trying so hard to derail the momentum.
@Remelia - thoughts on that?
ffery is playing in a way that is trying to PoE people and has Alisae in the list of people she has not been able to do that w/.
I don't equate "I am willing to vote Maid Cafe" as a derailment of that
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:28 am
by April Ludgate
SS, protect me tonight.
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:28 am
by morph the cat
In post 2980, April Ludgate wrote:Alisae is apparently Morph's biggest scum read, but they're trying so hard to derail the momentum.
@Remelia - thoughts on that?
The tiers don't have further implied order, but I do think that MariaR is a little more likely to be town than Alisae. I expected beeboy's entrance to be stronger if they're town. We need more interaction with them, despite whatever it does to your jacked up interpretation (real or not) of the gamestate.
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:29 am
by April Ludgate
In post 2986, Remilia Scarlet wrote: In post 2980, April Ludgate wrote:Alisae is apparently Morph's biggest scum read, but they're trying so hard to derail the momentum.
@Remelia - thoughts on that?
ffery is playing in a way that is trying to PoE people and has Alisae in the list of people she has not been able to do that w/.
I don't equate "I am willing to vote Maid Cafe" as a derailment of that
I disagree.
You need to look at the manner they pushed that at. They were almost threatening Maid Cafe with a "lucky I didn't vote you" kind of way.
They wanted Maid Cafe to give them more of a reason to full send.
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:29 am
by morph the cat
In post 2986, Remilia Scarlet wrote: In post 2980, April Ludgate wrote:Alisae is apparently Morph's biggest scum read, but they're trying so hard to derail the momentum.
@Remelia - thoughts on that?
ffery is playing in a way that is trying to PoE people and has Alisae in the list of people she has not been able to do that w/.
I don't equate "I am willing to vote Maid Cafe" as a derailment of that
Bork, you're scaring me.
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:29 am
by April Ludgate
In post 2988, morph the cat wrote: In post 2980, April Ludgate wrote:Alisae is apparently Morph's biggest scum read, but they're trying so hard to derail the momentum.
@Remelia - thoughts on that?
The tiers don't have further implied order, but I do think that MariaR is a little more likely to be town than Alisae. I expected beeboy's entrance to be stronger if they're town. We need more interaction with them, despite whatever it does to your jacked up interpretation (real or not) of the gamestate.
Well, you can go ahead and vote your highest scum read Alisae, then.
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:30 am
by Remilia Scarlet
In post 2982, Something_Smart wrote:There's a nonzero chance that Alisae would object more vehemently to my read change as town than as scum, even if the gist of the objection was the same.
Agreed; some town players just AtE in a way that their scum-mirrors can never fake.
I just don't really see any vehemence here
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:30 am
by Remilia Scarlet
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:31 am
by April Ludgate
eww, you guys are reading this as town Alisae AtE? I just am not seeing that. I'm reading it as classic scum AtE. Alisae AtE is much more genuine than that as town without all the nasty slippery actions they've taken.
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:32 am
by April Ludgate
like, you guys have to look at it from other perspectives than just what they're saying.
Look at what they're doing, not what they're saying.
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:32 am
by morph the cat
You? Defending
me
? On day one?
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:33 am
by April Ludgate
alisae is 1 scum, 1 scum is probably defending, 1 scum is probably bussing.
Lol, it's probably Alisae, Bell, morph. because of course if we're fucking up with this town block, it's the one that isn't under any scrutiny
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:34 am
by Remilia Scarlet
Can't tell if you're just being snarky or if you're actually concerned about that
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:34 am
by April Ludgate
they're scum, they're just playing the field.