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Okay. And if someone tells me they’re president Biden and I reply that they’re not president Biden am I confirming that they’re a Biden?

In post 2973, Guillotina wrote:

In post 2967, morph the cat wrote:

In post 2966, Guillotina wrote:Im ok with pressure on her

What is love
Without a flame
What's a rose
Without a name
What is pleasure without pain
It ain't nothing more than an empty space

Any point to this?

I'm pointing out that pressure for pressure's sake WHEN ANNOUCNED is useless.

A vote isn't threatening unless it has intent to kill behind it.

That I got to use an old Bond song was icing on the cake, really.

In post 2970, Bingle wrote:doing comparatively duck all, tbh.

That you think this is your own failing, not mine~

In post 2975, Bingle wrote:Okay. And if someone tells me they’re president Biden and I reply that they’re not president Biden am I confirming that they’re a Biden?

This is not the same thing is it?

This is the the very example of why you can't be town leader and I was hoping Cabd from Xenoblade would have, we need clarity, not more confusion and you are making arguments just to be right.

In this context what Sigmund and Flea did was:

Sigmund: I'm am the most honest president of all presidents now

Flea (who is not supposed to know he is a president): What? You are not the most honest president of all presidents now.

In post 2976, morph the cat wrote:

In post 2973, Guillotina wrote:

In post 2967, morph the cat wrote:

In post 2966, Guillotina wrote:Im ok with pressure on her

What is love
Without a flame
What's a rose
Without a name
What is pleasure without pain
It ain't nothing more than an empty space

Any point to this?

I'm pointing out that pressure for pressure's sake WHEN ANNOUCNED is useless.

A vote isn't threatening unless it has intent to kill behind it.

That I got to use an old Bond song was icing on the cake, really.

Ok... and?

ok that's all you're getting today on catchup, as it stands, I'm good for NDMath or Sigmund, I'm open to compromise to make sure we get a lim.

In post 2977, morph the cat wrote:That you think this is your own failing, not mine~

You've been in the wings for a lot of interactions, but your primary contribution was conftowning Arty. I'm not complaining that you haven't done enough (you have) or attempting to insinuate that you're not likely town. I'm remarking that it's strange that you have more control over the game state than both conftown combined when objectively that should not be the case.

In post 2981, Flea The Magician wrote:ok that's all you're getting today on catchup, as it stands, I'm good for NDMath or Sigmund, I'm open to compromise to make sure we get a lim.

What's the case on NDMath?

In post 2978, Guillotina wrote:Sigmund: I'm am the most honest president of all presidents now

Flea (who is not supposed to know he is a president): What? You are not the most honest president of all presidents now.

That's kind of my point. Flea responded to a specific claim with a denial of that specific claim. You're reacting as if the sentences had been

Sigmund: I'm am the most honest person

Flea (who is not supposed to know he is a president): What? You are not the most honest president

There's a very clear difference between the two cases. The case that ACTUALLY HAPPENED was someone using the exact phrasing of a claim to deny said claim.

In post 2968, Bingle wrote:

In post 2964, Guillotina wrote:My problem with Flea is that she said it with a tone of certainty, Flea acknowledged and confirmed that Sigmund with her mocking tone “You are not the towniest TOWN”.

Hey, G. If I tell someone that they’re not the sharpest knife in the drawer am I implying that they’re a sharp knife or literally the opposite?

I apologize for this, btw. It was unnecessarily snarky and intended to point out how dumb I think your argument was, and it is definitely if not insulting than at least implies an insult. I don't think you're an idiot, just wrong.

In post 2972, Thestatusquo wrote:

In post 2971, Titus wrote:

In post 2969, Thestatusquo wrote:I'm not voting anya.

Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?

I can't talk about this because of ongoing games.

Surely you can describe the townish behavior. Or are you saying there is none?

In post 2982, Bingle wrote:

In post 2977, morph the cat wrote:That you think this is your own failing, not mine~

You've been in the wings for a lot of interactions, but your primary contribution was conftowning Arty. I'm not complaining that you haven't done enough (you have) or attempting to insinuate that you're not likely town. I'm remarking that it's strange that you have more control over the game state than both conftown combined when objectively that should not be the case.

We have been grinding our Charisma stat for eons.

In post 2986, Titus wrote:

In post 2972, Thestatusquo wrote:

In post 2971, Titus wrote:

In post 2969, Thestatusquo wrote:I'm not voting anya.

Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?

I can't talk about this because of ongoing games.

Surely you can describe the townish behavior. Or are you saying there is none?

I thought my statement was very fucking clear to be honest and you trying to goad me into breaking site rules isn't going to work.

I think it's clear at this point that Guillotina's interpretation of the TMI comment is different from the way most people interpreted it. There's not an objectively right one, but I think the fact that most people are seeing it the non-TMI way indicates that Flea probably meant it that way.

I do not think continuing to argue the point helps anything.

I get you're trying to be diplomaitic here but come on man guillotina is objectively wrong.

In post 2984, Bingle wrote:

In post 2978, Guillotina wrote:Sigmund: I'm am the most honest president of all presidents now

Flea (who is not supposed to know he is a president): What? You are not the most honest president of all presidents now.

That's kind of my point. Flea responded to a specific claim with a denial of that specific claim. You're reacting as if the sentences had been

Sigmund: I'm am the most honest person

Flea (who is not supposed to know he is a president): What? You are not the most honest president

There's a very clear difference between the two cases. The case that ACTUALLY HAPPENED was someone using the exact phrasing of a claim to deny said claim.

Bingle, i don't think I can find an easier way to tell you the point for you to understand it.

Or maybe I can. Imagine it was me instead of flea, this is what I would have said.

Sigmund: I'm the towniest town player in the game

Guillo: "I don't think you are town"

And I would have follow up on why I don't think Sigmund is town.

If I say "Sigmund, come on, you are not the towniest town of all players here, I am acknowledging that Sigmund is town, I know he is town, just not the towniest of them all".

Which is what Flea implied, not only that Sigmund is town, but there are other players townier than him.

I hope this gives you a better sense of my suspicion here.

I don't think there is an objective right or wrong. Language is subjective.

I forgot to close the " in there but I'm sure you will get it.

Even after I flip town and flea flips red you guys will still refuse to accept that Flea slipped

its fine

can we stop wasting time debating it

I don't care anymore.

In post 2985, Bingle wrote:

In post 2968, Bingle wrote:

In post 2964, Guillotina wrote:My problem with Flea is that she said it with a tone of certainty, Flea acknowledged and confirmed that Sigmund with her mocking tone “You are not the towniest TOWN”.

Hey, G. If I tell someone that they’re not the sharpest knife in the drawer am I implying that they’re a sharp knife or literally the opposite?

I apologize for this, btw. It was unnecessarily snarky and intended to point out how dumb I think your argument was, and it is definitely if not insulting than at least implies an insult. I don't think you're an idiot, just wrong.

Actually I didn't take it as such and if you didn't mention it I wouldn't have caught it. lol

Im really hungover and dont think I have power to read these 20 pages today I am so sorry.

In post 2989, Something_Smart wrote:I think it's clear at this point that Guillotina's interpretation of the TMI comment is different from the way most people interpreted it. There's not an objectively right one, but I think the fact that most people are seeing it the non-TMI way indicates that Flea probably meant it that way.

I do not think continuing to argue the point helps anything.

Ok how about we yeet Sigmund?

In post 2988, Thestatusquo wrote:

In post 2986, Titus wrote:

In post 2972, Thestatusquo wrote:

In post 2971, Titus wrote:

In post 2969, Thestatusquo wrote:I'm not voting anya.

Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?

I can't talk about this because of ongoing games.

Surely you can describe the townish behavior. Or are you saying there is none?

I thought my statement was very fucking clear to be honest and you trying to goad me into breaking site rules isn't going to work.

I'm not asking for meta or behavior over multiple games. I'm asking for what makes her town in this game. I don't care about ongoing games or references to any past completed games.

I would never goad anyone into breaking site rules.

Here you're using every defense in the book but explaining why anya is town because you can't. There is no reason to think she is.

i agree with shea, i think the assertion that anya hasn't been hunting this game is wrong, i don't think she's coasting, and i think her reads make sense. i don't really have time to trawl through the thread right now but throwing my two cents in.