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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:49 pm
by Dwlee99
Will you know if you do

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:18 pm
by VFP
In post 2965, Save The Dragons wrote:at this game
So what about the past when you have tried as town?

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:08 am
by T3
In post 2975, Dwlee99 wrote:Will you know if you do
Yes.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:09 am
by Dwlee99
Is your role confirmable

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:11 am
by T3
In post 2978, Dwlee99 wrote:Is your role confirmable
Possibly.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:17 am
by Dwlee99
Do you have any cool results to share?

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:50 am
by T3
In post 2980, Dwlee99 wrote:Do you have any cool results to share?
No.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:39 am
by Save The Dragons
In post 2976, VFP wrote:
In post 2965, Save The Dragons wrote:at this game
So what about the past when you have tried as town?
i'm not saying i don't try as town, i mostly try in games

i've just been behind a lot in this one and it's hard for me to follow.

i'm saying if i were scum i'd feel guilty about leaving my partners in the lurch by my lurking and i would try to pop in more to put more effort.

after petapan and dwlee and dgb and nero and others talked so much about claiming or not claiming my eyes glazed over and i decided not to try as hard this game because it was hard to read from the beginning

but i have some time right now so i'll try to put in something and read some isos if i can

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:44 am
by Dwlee99
T3 I think I just want to hear your claim pending anyone offering an objection to it. Don't want a guilty claim coming out in ELO

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:49 am
by T3
There are likely 2 mafia left 12 players. No point in me claiming it now. What I will ssy is that I crumbed it and it is 1 shot.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:55 am
by Dwlee99
Well I'm glad you're only saying this now that the jail keeper flipped

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:02 am
by Save The Dragons
In post 322, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 135, T3 wrote:osuka is town.
I don’t trust that you can make this statement with any sort of reasonable degree of certainty this early. You’re not Scum again are you?
hmm. does he say this about his scum partner
In post 325, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 196, Nero Cain wrote:both T3 and DW are calling Rathe scum but didn't vote him. You did and you want to see if they would vote there. In your mind, this accomplishes what?
Nero not going to lie - nom cubed seems like Town to me. I think you’re arguing the wrong thing. Getting reactions and stances is valuable. Scum also love to get involved from the sidelines in heated debates, but stay above the fray as much as possible, especially if it’s between two Town.
early town read of scum, i had nom as town too so
In post 328, Andresvmb wrote:VOTE: osuka
here's where he votes osuka but doesn't really give a reason?
In post 333, Andresvmb wrote:@VFP I actually think you’re Town here - talk to me about osuka.
interesting but i don't really see much in the way of talking back and forth again not much reasoning from Andres as to why they're voting osuka
In post 892, Andresvmb wrote:Nomnomnom is Town. If anybody tries to execute there, they’re Scum. Just so we’re clear.
this is weird because VFP goes off the handle and Andres is townreading them. Hmm. I don't know if scum defends scum this much...
In post 1705, Andresvmb wrote:@Osuka I think you’re Town and I trust your accuracy. What are you looking to do?
wtf that's different

ok i'm bored.

Andres, your reads shift around a lot, i'd love to know your current thoughts on the game. i think i'm changing my mind about you.

UNVOTE:

let me look at some other people

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:23 am
by Save The Dragons
VOTE: titus

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:25 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 2987, Save The Dragons wrote:VOTE: titus
You want to know what the biggest giveaway is that osuka is not my Scum Partner? Forget my vote without much reasoning (I’ll be honest, I didn’t want to get into a pissing match with osuka, but the style of their posting didn’t change between them being Scum in the two games that we played where they were Scum). Look at osuka’s reaction to my vote, and then to Rathe’s vote. It’s clear that they didn’t want me to cast a light onto them, and thought that they could convince me not only to change my mind but drag Rathe with me. I think you can imagine how that would have played out if it was a distancing vote. But a careful Town would look for those things. You saying that you think gut is enough to justify thinking I’m Scum here for example didn’t seem right. You’re obviously moving now, but I think you should have looked through the exchange and not just my vote.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:26 pm
by Andresvmb
This nonsense from T3 is the least Towny claim I have ever seen.

I think we shouldn’t give any room for garbage like that to pollute our read of the slot. Either claim appropriately or die.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:29 pm
by Andresvmb
My reasoning is simple. The Jailkeeper is dead. If the Scum are going to target you based on “I have a role that might catch Scum, is powerful, but is not confirmable”, then they just will. It’s much better for us to actually know what we have now that this information is available, and be able to comment on it. There’s enough crumbs there that it doesn’t leave that many options, and I think the Town deserves to know.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:33 pm
by Andresvmb
And if any of you are going to attack me for role fishing or some other nonsense, then bite me. They offered up to claim to weaken momentum against them, and have decided to do it in such an absurd way that to me it just seems like they’re trying to buy time with bullshit.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:37 pm
by Save The Dragons
mm you still might be scum

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:49 pm
by Titus
In post 2989, Andresvmb wrote:This nonsense from T3 is the least Towny claim I have ever seen.

I think we shouldn’t give any room for garbage like that to pollute our read of the slot. Either claim appropriately or die.
I think I know what T3 is doing and I'm inclined to let the claim go for now. I'd explain more but I can't.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:21 pm
by Anya
how is T3.8 getting away with whatever sandbags he just threw at us about his role

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:59 pm
by Dwlee99
After a game where I scumread someone and they got away with just softing a power role I'm going to agree I want more details

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:02 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 2994, Anya wrote:how is T3.8 getting away with whatever sandbags he just threw at us about his role
THAT IS RICH COMING FROM YOU

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 3:53 am
by T3
In post 2996, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2994, Anya wrote:how is T3.8 getting away with whatever sandbags he just threw at us about his role
THAT IS RICH COMING FROM YOU
:lol:

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 4:32 am
by Titus
In post 2996, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2994, Anya wrote:how is T3.8 getting away with whatever sandbags he just threw at us about his role
THAT IS RICH COMING FROM YOU
+1

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 4:58 am
by Dwlee99
Not to completely speak for Anya here but "2-shot announcing voyeur that got blocked two nights" is a lot more straightforward and clear than "my role is good if it targets mafia so don't kill me"