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huh i actually derailed the convo to my irrelevant post just now

wow i should use my IC powers for better stuff than egoistic self-meta discussion

i would like some flips this game at some point.

In post 2977, Save The Dragons wrote:

I love it

thank you

In post 2968, Andante wrote:

In post 2960, Harley Quinn wrote:

In post 2951, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:I don't find Andante's trajectory onto you at all weird, much less enough to confscum them for it

They are claiming
A) that they sr my predecessor but they haven’t mentioned that anywhere.
B) If they’re town, they would do their due diligence and look up the games they played with BOTH BH and Loki and reacess.
C) They falsely accuse me of sr them for games I WASN’T IN. Metadive Andante to debunk this.
D) He’s completely factoring my posts into her read is extremely suss. That’s very different then Datisi challenging my alignment based off of that.
E) Her vote on me - wrt to placement suspiciously opportunistic.

A) that they sr my predecessor but they haven’t mentioned that anywhere.
- I said I was waiting for flips to happen then I'd go deal with reads. We flipped a town, the angie/marci stuff that happened, people said they TRed marci over angie, I looked at angie, and agreed with not towny. Everytime you've been here in the thread, it's been more "go after the person SRing me" than "here's my reads and why"

B) If they’re town, they would do their due diligence and look up the games they played with BOTH BH and Loki and reacess.
- Why would past games mean anything? if you're aware of your own meta, you can change it/mimic games. especially if you're telling me certain games to look at. no thanks, I'd rather pick games on my own
C) They falsely accuse me of sr them for games I WASN’T IN. Metadive Andante to debunk this.
- uh what? this is a lie
D) He’s completely factoring my posts into her read is extremely suss. That’s very different then Datisi challenging my alignment based off of that.
- uh my read is off your posts. yes. I read posts to determine alignments
E) Her vote on me - wrt to placement suspiciously opportunistic.
- Yeah the timing of it? What it came after is the exact reason I decided to speak up and go for it. you're not wrong about that, I legitimately think you're scum, and if this is you "heyI'm not scum, you're wrong, don't vote me" you're not doing thebest job

A) you had Titus/Norwee/Datisi in your PoE not Angie.
B) That arguement is wrong but nia it make it. However, you lacking complete interest in looking up those games is antitown because in your shoes. if town - you had better damn believe I would be looking those games up.
C) is not a lie. Want me to look it up?
D) If that is true, then how did the one where I state that I’ve already towntold multiple times and am well beyond my scumrange just happen to conveniently escape your notice?
E) Yes, I sc votes that look opportunistically placed on me as town and I have reliably caught scum by doing that. Ask GL in nsg newspaper game. His was I think the thrird or forth vote on me in that. Also different account but point still stands.

In post 2977, Save The Dragons wrote:

i regret nothing

i am using my IC powers EXACTLY how they should be used

In post 2970, Andante wrote:

In post 2966, Harley Quinn wrote:

In post 2962, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:

In post 2960, Harley Quinn wrote:

In post 2951, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:I don't find Andante's trajectory onto you at all weird, much less enough to confscum them for it

They are claiming A) that they sr my predecessor but they haven’t mentioned that anywhere.
B) If they’re town, they would do their due diligence and look up the games they played with BOTH BH and Loki and reacess.
C) They falsely accuse me of sr them for games I WASN’T IN. Metadive Andante to debunk this.
D) He’s completely factoring my posts into her read is extremely suss. That’s very different then Datisi challenging my alignment based off of that.
E) Her vote on me - wrt to placement suspiciously opportunistic.

Andante really doesn't strike me as the kind of person that would do B

and your entire argument kinda needs that to be true to be valid

She cared a lot about correctly parsing people in Koba’s game, so why doesn’t she this one?

I was having fun with flow that game, that's literally all I remember. Called flow scum cause I friendly neighbored them, so if I died, flow got caught, that's literally all I remember of that game

If you’re town and you care about not miseliming, you should absolutely look that one up.

oh joy

I can already see that this back and forth is going to accomplish nothing

In post 2982, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:oh joy

I can already see that this back and forth is going to accomplish nothing

I absolutely hate to give Fire credit for anything but yes, I am extremely difficult to miselim and this game is no exception.

what

I'm referring to the fact that you're not going to convince Andante of anything and Andante is not going to convince you of anything

In post 2973, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:I'd also argue meta is completely useless if you don't know exactly what to look for in the first place

and if you're asking to look at specific games for specific things, that automatically makes it useless

One min, two max. How is that hard? The one with Loki is probably more helpful considering BH was a triple hydra, eventhough I was the most active head but it’s also good.

I wonder if Ydrasse can spot the parallels between this game and Royalty? She’s the only one in the playerlist who was in that.

In post 2984, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:what

I'm referring to the fact that you're not going to convince Andante of anything and Andante is not going to convince you of anything

You haven’t played with me in a very long time but I am very much out of my scumrange and anyone critically casing both my town and scummames could clearly see it.

meta is 90% of the time useless

im meta reading alyssa

do i bloat the thread with disney song videos to avoid leaving or

this game isn't fun for me. I should take a V/LA break

good luck with that

I have literally one completed game in a year and a half, and I got N1ed in that one

In post 2987, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:meta is 90% of the time useless

How long have you been of this opinion? You wrongly deathtunnelled me in nsg topaz game based off of incorrect meta read on me.

And no it isn’t. I correctly nailed scum!Woolax and scum!Dwelee mostly based on that in Pokemon game.

because the only meta that's worthwhile is meta where you take old information and deduce how the player in question would adjust

just saying "I did this in X as town therefore I'm X here" is laughably useless, that type of meta is only not laughably useless if you're arguing that it's not alignment indicative at all.

In post 2881, Firebringer wrote:

In post 2876, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Ok i think Harley is pretty much conf!town nvm.

I call bullshit.

Ur informed if anything.
Theres no way u see this and just outright buy it.

Pretty much every game i’ve been town with Harley i’ve correctly identified her as town. And with pretty much the same amount of info as here.
I’d agree if meta wasn’t completely against you and in my favour.

In post 2979, Harley Quinn wrote:A) you had Titus/Norwee/Datisi in your PoE not Angie.
B) That arguement is wrong but nia it make it. However, you lacking complete interest in looking up those games is antitown because in your shoes. if town - you had better damn believe I would be looking those games up.
C) is not a lie. Want me to look it up?
D) If that is true, then how did the one where I state that I’ve already towntold multiple times and am well beyond my scumrange just happen to conveniently escape your notice?
E) Yes, I sc votes that look opportunistically placed on me as town and I have reliably caught scum by doing that. Ask GL in nsg newspaper game. His was I think the thrird or forth vote on me in that. Also different account but point still stands.

A) uh what point in time are you talking about? Dragons/Titus/Norwee have been my stronger SRs yes, datisi I need to read more into but he's a scum lean, I ignored most the ladies day 1, like, why would I care to put effort into a read when we're losing a lady anyways? you would be correct. I didn't sr angie no, cause I just didn't read much of the angie posts. I SRed you, went back, looked at angie, I don't tr angie, So 2 non TRs equal not town. You can't tell me you TR angie's ISO...
B) Why would I go look up games? I think I've only ever looked at 1 past game for something, but I think there's plenty here to read you off of, like, what extra knowledge do you expect me to gain from reading a past game of yours?
C)Uh I genuinely don't care if you go look this up or not, but saying I falsely accuse you of SRing me for games you weren't in?? I don't even know you, why would I talk about you in games you're not in?
D) Why would I take you saying "I'm out of my scumrange" as truth? It's just like going "Hey yall I'm town. you better believe me" like, if someone else says it, it might mean something, but saying it about yourself? "just happen to conveniently escape your notice" ah yes, I just happened to not take your word that you've towntold. Like, when I'm scum I literally sit there like "yall can't possibly SR me" basically exactly what you've been doing.
E) I don't care about other games, it's like me sitting here listing a bunch of possible teams, then screaming post game "I WAS RIGHT!!!" if you're all about past games you might want to look at my past games lol I literally vote whoever I want whenever I want. Saying I "opportunistically placed a vote" lmaoo ok whatever, I mean, I debated just voting and disappearing, I'm sure that'd have been fun too, at least I'm here talking I guess.

- I still SR Harley

In post 2990, Firebringer wrote:this game isn't fun for me. I should take a V/LA break

OH NOOOOOO how can I make it more fun?? ms paint shenanigans in the PT?

In post 2993, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:because the only meta that's worthwhile is meta where you take old information and deduce how the player in question would adjust

just saying "I did this in X as town therefore I'm X here" is laughably useless, that type of meta is only not laughably useless if you're arguing that it's not alignment indicative at all.

That isn’t at all my argument wrt to me and yes, I could very clearly tell thar both duckling and especially Dwelee were scum based off of that because I had just finished a game with town!Dwelee, so the contrast between those two games was beyond obvious.

I have literally never met someone this reliant on meta before.... why is everything all about "hey look at this game" like, I don't care about past games..

Taly i feel you should recognize that this is my towngame.
You have the power to stop this awful wagon on me/Marci if you just say it.
I also feel Marci is more likely town from our PT so i’m firmly in the belief that our lim would be -Wincon for town.