Mini Normal 2271 - Game Over

[JacksonVirgo]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13327143

This is where I am getting at.

I am quite confused

In that game Koba was a false clear for bussing their buddy.

I examined it and figured out what they did only made sense for scum Koba.

By figuring out what the scum goals and intents are we can find who the players are that are doing it.

We don't have a protective. They will sort themselves as long as we are vigilant about it and don't let time slip away the logic.

Why do you say that?

If I was a protective I protect NK or JV not Koopa.

Koba has been known to run false gambits and lie to get what they want as town. Lord knows I wouldn’t protect them over JV or NK15. To be clear this is not a claim just an if. I might or might not be.

You shouldn't have said this :p
I was aware, I was doing a gambit of my own.

[JacksonVirgo]

Or we can elim them as soon as they give a green-check which is a route that's much more fun.

I think sorting them soon as a green check. But yeah I can vibe with this.

It's the best course of action rather than trying to solve them now when the correct elimination is obvious. Scum!NK doesn't do this if Andres is not scum so it's an almost certain red flip today.

[MathBlade]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13327143

This is where I am getting at.

I am quite confused

In that game Koba was a false clear for bussing their buddy.

I examined it and figured out what they did only made sense for scum Koba.

By figuring out what the scum goals and intents are we can find who the players are that are doing it.

We don't have a protective. They will sort themselves as long as we are vigilant about it and don't let time slip away the logic.

Why do you say that?

If I was a protective I protect NK or JV not Koopa.

Koba has been known to run false gambits and lie to get what they want as town. Lord knows I wouldn’t protect them over JV or NK15. To be clear this is not a claim just an if. I might or might not be.

You shouldn't have said this :p
I was aware, I was doing a gambit of my own.

Hey! I claim mayor of facepalm.

What’s new?

Apparently it’s raining cats and dogs here.

[MathBlade]

Or we can elim them as soon as they give a green-check which is a route that's much more fun.

I think sorting them soon as a green check. But yeah I can vibe with this.

It's the best course of action rather than trying to solve them now when the correct elimination is obvious. Scum!NK doesn't do this if Andres is not scum so it's an almost certain red flip today.

Alright let’s go.

Intent to E-1

Unless someone has something else?

[JacksonVirgo]

I was not saying I was aware you were the protective, I was referring to knowing that koopa dying does not equate to no TProt

[Gamma Emerald]

I guess the big question I have is why did scum send Andres to do the kill?

Depends if multitasking exists and where the PRs lie

I mean yes but no.

Assume scum have two PRs they had to use and Andres is a vanilla goon.

Then what were they doing?

We have Koopa, JV, and NK15 who all claimed something. If they’re all town what would the invests be doing?
Then if they have manipulators like a roleblock why did NK15 get a check off?

If Andres is a strongman so had to do the kill then that means we have a protective along with a gunsmith and a tracker who could act on D1?

I can’t get the pieces to fit which means something smells.

What makes you think scum would have 2 PRs?

[JacksonVirgo]

I just want to state that if I do die tonight do not take my role lightly, it is important.

[ItalianoVD]

Okay I have a ghost vote on Andres.

[JacksonVirgo]

It could be that the mafia are all in the lowest point in the Town and Andres was the top. That'd be quite funny

[JacksonVirgo]

I'll hammer if I see an E-1 vote.

[Gamma Emerald]

It doesn’t make sense which is why they would do it.

Responding to 2947 & 2948

Pls respond to 2951/2970

[MathBlade]

I guess the big question I have is why did scum send Andres to do the kill?

Depends if multitasking exists and where the PRs lie

I mean yes but no.

Assume scum have two PRs they had to use and Andres is a vanilla goon.

Then what were they doing?

We have Koopa, JV, and NK15 who all claimed something. If they’re all town what would the invests be doing?
Then if they have manipulators like a roleblock why did NK15 get a check off?

If Andres is a strongman so had to do the kill then that means we have a protective along with a gunsmith and a tracker who could act on D1?

I can’t get the pieces to fit which means something smells.

What makes you think scum would have 2 PRs?

Process of elimination:
Scum have either 0 PRs (which I mean wtf balance can discard)
Scum have 1 PR >> In this case why send Andres to do the kill? Unless that one PR is strongman or ninja or inno? Ninja is out so strongman? But then the setup needs a protective for town which doesn’t exist. Surely they’d send someone less likely to be checked.
Scum have 2 PR and Andres is a PR >> Why send Andres to do the kill and not use the PR?
Scum have 2 PR and Andres is not a PR >> Then what are the PRs doing?
Scum have 3 PRs >> See prior point

I am at a point where scum mechanically suck but then how do we get 100s of pages in a mini without an elim with shit scum? The 2 PRs and Andres isn’t one is the least shitty but ew.

I keep running into contradictions.

[Gamma Emerald]

You’re drunk on WIFOM
Stop trying to guess at what PRs scum do or do not have.

[MathBlade]

You’re drunk on WIFOM
Stop trying to guess at what PRs scum do or do not have.

That’s like how I hunt though :/

[Gamma Emerald]

This is gonna sound rude but: when have you ever had ideas of normal balance that resembled what the game reviewers actually had in mind?

[ItalianoVD]

Get to E-1 and I’ll hammer.

[JacksonVirgo]

Get to E-1 and I’ll hammer.

No me

[MathBlade]

This is gonna sound rude but: when have you ever had ideas of normal balance that resembled what the game reviewers actually had in mind?

In the game I just linked a bit ago where I caught Koba scum?

I will just have to think about it overnight.

Guess I am good to end the day.

I don’t think anything constructive comes out of this.

[JacksonVirgo]

Just want to say that Malcom is overwhelmingly Town.
Who is NK scum-reading prior to this red-check.

Scum might be there.

[MathBlade]

I lied I wanna make sure scum can’t lurk sac this.

I am good from a conversation point though.

[Gamma Emerald]

I would like for kitty to post before the hammer is dropped

[JacksonVirgo]

I think HEM and Andres are paired

[MathBlade]

Agreed. I want her reads and reads of anyone likely to be nightkilled.

[JacksonVirgo]

Agreed. I want her reads and reads of anyone likely to be nightkilled.

Can you list the NKed people

[MathBlade]

Agreed. I want her reads and reads of anyone likely to be nightkilled.

Can you list the NKed people

?? Koopa died last night?