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I'm not willing to lynch Gandalf either at this point.
I'd like to hear from the non-posters.

Furcolow (animorpherv1, Chronopie, gandalf5166)
gandalf5166 (Furcolow, Friend, Me=Weird)
Me=Weird (xvart, TheLonging)
Friend (Porochaz, zwetschenwasser)
Lord Gurgi (ooba)
Yosarian2 (Lord Gurgi)
Erg0 (inHimshallibe)
ReaperCharlie (Faraday)
Faraday (ReaperCharlie)
dramonic (Andrius)

Never mind, he came back and said something.

We could string up Erg0 while he's gone.

Holstered: dramonic, Erg0, vezokpiraka, Yosarian2

Let's pick one of these.

Why Erg0 again?

dramonic wrote:I'm not willing to lynch Gandalf either at this point.
I'd like to hear from the non-posters.

ACTUALLY WAIT. dram uses different language when it comes to his gandalf "read."

I'm not sure I understand what you are accusing me of here?

Gandalf is currently a null-read to me, but I'd lean slightly town for now. The others are town

Also, what's the premise to consider voting Yos? he posted ONCE :S

@Friend: Here is where I got my initial gut read.

Erg0 wrote:What little I've seen of vezok leads me to think that he's more likely to be clueless than a genius of reverse psychology. I guess this could be a genius product of scum groupthink, but I'm leaning away from that. He's probably just set himself up for a nightkill, so I doubt we'll end up needing to work it out one way or t'other.

Friend wrote:You're saying he plays this way as town. You're insinuating that you are okay with lynching town.

Sometimes it's ok to be ok with lynching town. Lynching a town PR, on the other hand...

Aim: Seraphim

Emphasis mine.

This was a really poor wagoning vote, and the bolded reasoning Erg0 provided added nothing to the case against Seraphim, it only begged for more votes.

@dram gandalf town? is your definition of town everybody who's blatantly scummy?

dramonic wrote:I'm not sure I understand what you are accusing me of here?

Gandalf is currently a null-read to me, but I'd lean slightly town for now. The others are town

Also, what's the premise to consider voting Yos? he posted ONCE :S

The common theme is that none of the four are voting.

You went out of your way to point town signs to already likely-suspected town players, and failed to give an immediate read on gandalf. BUT, you felt the need to comment on it, like you HAD to. You come back by saying you don't want to lynch him now, which is ENTIRELY different than giving a stance on someone.

I had solid reads on the first three, while the fourth being the leading wagon, I judged the proper thing was to ISO him. I commented swiftly after for the simple reason that his ISO is ridiculously short.

@Zwet: No, but I feel the need to point out the crackpots that are town by meta feels

Hot damn you guys post lots.



I'll calling Gandalf-Furcolow Town-on-Town. Both are horribly abrasive, both make me wish I had Day-Vigging powarz. But both read as pissed-off Townies.

god damn it dram, meta is not a town tell!

Gandalf I'm not so sure about.

zwetschenwasser wrote:god damn it dram, meta is not a town tell!

Really?



Oki then

Hey, is it just me, or has zwet started posting more than four words?

dramonic wrote:I had solid reads on the first three, while the fourth being the leading wagon, I judged the proper thing was to ISO him. I commented swiftly after for the simple reason that his ISO is ridiculously short.

@Zwet: No, but I feel the need to point out the crackpots that are town by meta feels

I see no town reason for

gandalf... is abnormal.

Why not just come back in the next post and give your thoughts on gandalf?

for now
im going to read up on what i missed

animorpherv1 wrote:Hey, is it just me, or has zwet started posting more than four words?

my meta is short posts, not necessarily four word posts.

zwet, have we played together?

ReaperCharlie wrote:

Furcolow wrote:caps locks and exclamation points don't make your case and play any less sucky

This is rich coming from Furcolow. rofl

You like that?

Porochaz wrote:Oh right...

Porochaz wrote:When you write a long case you can't reply to anything at once, in any case, yes I have used it before, its not something Im going to look for now but you should be able to find a game if you care about it. Some may use it when town and whilst I find it really annoying for reasons Ive mentioned before but even then the fact scum know who is likely town and scum they are more likely to make that mistake.

Scum know who is town and scum so they are more likely to use absolutes as they know what everyones alignments are likely to be. Town do not have knowledge of this therefore they shouldn't be doing it. I don't view it as a major scum tell but 24 hours into a thread I view it as a votable scum tell to start things off.

Yeah, that's in JEEP's common tells, sort of.

Friend wrote:Furc is town because of an OVERWHELMING gut feel. I hate to admit it though.

Gandalf, who is scum on your wagon?

No, I am town because of the role pm I got saying so, but whatever floats your boat.
Would you stop saying "furc is town" over and over, though? If you feel it, hold it in, unless it is necessary, or if I'm being threatened. Neither of those is happening right now. I love the way you're defending me, but it is coming across as scummy even to me, and I'm the one you're defending.

zwetschenwasser wrote:why? another overwhelming gut read?

This is why, friend. When you have those "STRONG GUT READS" which, if you're townie, is amazing play, might be misinterpreted as you simply having too much information (like you would as scum)

dramonic wrote:grumble

Holster

I remember Furc being town in games. And also being this pleasant.
Also, why the hell did you claim? We didn't need that, and now the scum won't shoot you, so we're sure to endure you for a looooong time since you're playing to your town meta, I hate you ;_;

All lovely humor aside.

Friend is town, Zwet is town, Furc is town, gandalf is... abnormal.
Will read his ISO.

Here is another example of someone who I am reading as town saying "this person IS town" "that person IS town" which is a common tell of mafia. I agree with Porochaz on that.

Those common tells are a bit outdated, though, admittedly. They're circa 2006 or so, play has evolved (actually deteriorated, from what I can tell) since then.

dramonic wrote:I'm not willing to lynch Gandalf either at this point.
I'd like to hear from the non-posters.

Are you rectifying you calling him weird, and deterring weird being misconstrued as scum? because that's not how I took your post I just quoted before this one at all. I just took it to mean you had more of a neutral read on him.

inHimshallibe wrote:Holstered: dramonic, Erg0, vezokpiraka, Yosarian2

Let's pick one of these.

I like this from you, but I hope you're not scum using this tactic. Null imo... but if we do follow your lead on this, and you keep pushing this, I will have some of my suspicions alleviated.


I'm not convinced dramonic is scum, though, inhimshallibe.
I am ok with going with your idea of voting someone who isn't contributing via voting. Let's stick with that.

Argues with Seraphim, votes for furcolow for voting Seraphim, then votes Me=Weird, who replaced Seraphim. Make up your mind, dude.

Can't believe I'm actually at the point of reading isos already.

inHimshallibe wrote:zwet, have we played together?

yes. and furc, claiming you have a gut read on someone, even if you're town, is not "amazing play"

it would be if you know your role
so, to me, it is
capiche?