Mini 1180: Game Over

[mastin2]

WormyKrew 3 (L-4) splitfarvie, Darth Yoshi, Mastin2

Add Secret, and Jily. L-2.

I'm not opposed to Operation: Lynch Krew, but I'm not sold we should enact it at this very moment. It looks like we still have a lot to talk about.

[jilynne1991]

Ok, I actually have a case in mind at the moment, and when I have time tomorrow, I'll post it. (It's not just a gut feeling, now.)

[evilpacman18]

Wrong account buddy

[Secret Project]

... my b.

[Captain Corporal]

Please show who you are referring to in your posts, Secret Project. It'll save the drama.

[Secret Project]

Please show who you are referring to in your posts, Secret Project. It'll save the drama.

Don't be dramatic. It'll also save the drama. You scum?

[Secret Project]

Why do you have the same gut feelings as Jil?


(HEY EVERYBODY, THIS QUESTION IS AIMED AT CAPTAIN CORPORAL. JUST SO THERE ISN'T ANY MISUNDERSTANDINGS. I REPEAT. THIS QUESTION IS AIMED AT CAPTAIN CORPORAL)

[Alduskkel]

Secret Project, I don't think you ever answered this:

@Secret Project 104 (not quoting the whole thing): Don't you think it's more likely that Ironhead's posting style change is due to our shift from the goofy RVS/RQS stage to serious mafia business time?

Not in the way it happend with him.

Mastin needs to back up his reads. And not just because he called me scummy.

Oooooo... Trying to deflate an issue before it comes up, eh? You scum?

Care to elaborate on the first point?

With regards to the second, I was merely preempting any OMGUS accusations. Probably unnecessary, but I figured I'd clear it out of the way without having to possibly waste time on it in the future.

And if it's critical for me to outright state this, no, I'm not scum.

(Note to myself: Still waiting for answers to questions in my previous post from DarthYoshi and WormyKrew.)

WormyKrew wagon is BS with basically no decent reasoning from anyone except DarthYoshi. I'd say that everyone but DY has to explain their reasoning in their next post.

By the way, I may be in the minority here but I vastly prefer wall-poster-Mastin to doesn't-explain-his-reads-Mastin.

TBH this game feels a little dead ATM. Need more posters other than Ironhead, Mastin, Secret Project, and jilynne. splitfarvle is especially missing, and our mod really needs to prod him if that hasn't already been done. It's been over four days now, more than a little ridiculous.

[Alduskkel]

Oh, monk called me scummy.

I don't think he has contributed much and what he has contributed has been mainly answering questions of other people rather than applying pressure or asking questions of people. There are different levels of scumminess and towniness I just don't show them.

That's just my more recent playstyle. Ask a lot of questions (especially early on), then based on those answers formulate ideas as to who is scum.

So far I'm having some trouble nonetheless though, what with a lot of players not offering up a lot of content compared to the floods of posts coming from people like Secret Project.

[Captain Corporal]

Holy AtE. Calm down. No need to be an ass, Secret. Dd you stop to think we might have the same gut feelings because we're right?
Either way, I said I need to read some ISO (which Ijust did) PLUS that they were only gut feelings.

I am getting town vibes from Krew, and I have absolutely no idea why this bandwagon has built. Can someone please re-state a case against him (or link a post)? Secret Project was setting off my scumdar, then was leaning town, then yet again leaned scum. Hydras are a terrible idea. I cannot get a good read on you, Secret, but if I hd to choose, I would say scum.
Jily still sits town with me. There was all that crap about her roleclaiming (or smething of the sort) that makes me think town.

More reads to come.

[mastin2]

Call me a conspiracy theorist who has absolutely no logical reasons behind his posts if you like, for this.

But, uh...

...Am I the only one seeing an Alduskkel-WormyKrew scumteam, here?
Will need to look into this further.

[mastin2]

I'm having trouble explaining it in logical terms, but something about it just seems so right. Alduskkel-WormyKrew suddenly to me seems like it just makes so much *Beep*ing sense. I really don't know why, can't explain it in a way which I think will make sense to any others, right now. It's just there to me, right now, glaring at me and telling me I'm right. :/

[Secret Project]

By the way, I may be in the minority here but I vastly prefer wall-poster-Mastin to doesn't-explain-his-reads-Mastin.

QFT

And if it's critical for me to outright state this, no, I'm not scum.

Fair enough. Captain Corporal however chose to ignore the simple question.

Holy AtE. Calm down. No need to be an ass, Secret. Dd you stop to think we might have the same gut feelings because we're right?
Either way, I said I need to read some ISO (which Ijust did) PLUS that they were only gut feelings.

I am getting town vibes from Krew, and I have absolutely no idea why this bandwagon has built. Can someone please re-state a case against him (or link a post)? Secret Project was setting off my scumdar, then was leaning town, then yet again leaned scum. Hydras are a terrible idea. I cannot get a good read on you, Secret, but if I hd to choose, I would say scum.
Jily still sits town with me. There was all that crap about her roleclaiming (or smething of the sort) that makes me think town.

More reads to come.

Simple question. Completely ignored. Any response to that question is fine, the only one I don't accept is no response. And no I didn't stop to think your gut reads were more than half right.

Call me a conspiracy theorist who has absolutely no logical reasons behind his posts if you like, for this.

But, uh...

...Am I the only one seeing an Alduskkel-WormyKrew scumteam, here?
Will need to look into this further.

Admittedly Captain Corporal and krew is hard to see because it would be some mad bussing from krew. Of course, if him and alex are scum then it would clear Ironhead and Gerhard slot. If krew isn't scum then it would condemn Ironhead and Gerhard slot and Ironhead/CC are a team I can see with ease. Kind of the same ease you're seeing Alduskkel and krew with.

[Captain Corporal]

Isn't it funny, Secret Project, that when somebody AtEs you, you make a big deal of it, but when YOU AtE others, apparantly it's no big deal and we can all continue on. I've had enough of you.
VOTE: Secret Project

[Captain Corporal]

EBWOP: *When people AtL, you think it's the worst, but when YOU AtE others (which, co-incidentally, you said was a SCUM INDICATION), it means nothing.

Also, this IS AtE, right (what Secret Project was doing)? I'm still new to this concept.

[Alduskkel]

Call me a conspiracy theorist who has absolutely no logical reasons behind his posts if you like, for this.

But, uh...

...Am I the only one seeing an Alduskkel-WormyKrew scumteam, here?
Will need to look into this further.

I can literally say you're doing the same thing with Ironhead -- defense against lots of suspicion. If I see an awful wagon I will say it is an awful wagon. And I'd rather you spend your time on explaining your reads instead of lousy conspiracy theories.

Secret Project, you're all antsy about Captain Corporal not answering your question. But I asked you a question in 307 which you ignored.

[Alduskkel]

CC, do you even know what you're accusing SP of? You sound very unsure. Appeal to Emotion is simple (and on the wiki): You're trying to convince players of something on an emotional level (as opposed to say, a logical one).

[mastin2]

I need to look things over. Review things again.

When I'm more coherent. Dead-tired right now.

I feel like I'm on to something. I don't know how. I just have a feeling, that something's right with the direction I'm heading in. I'll see if I can think of it some more when I'm sleeping. (Since I apparently dream Mafia Games. )

[wierdalexv]

Still waiting for mastin's reasoning on suspecting DY.

By the way, I may be in the minority here but I vastly prefer wall-poster-Mastin to doesn't-explain-his-reads-Mastin.

QFT

QFT. Please expand on some of your reads, mastin.

Question to everyone: are gut feelings good? And if they can be bad and good, when are they bad, and when are they good?

*nods like is having a seizure*
GUT FEELINGS ARE AMAZING. IN MY FIRST GAME I HAD AN OBVTOWN AS GUTSCUM AND HE TURNED OUT AS SCUM.

[Alduskkel]

Mastin, your feeling sucks. Bad gut.

5:26 A.M. where I am (I am semi-nocturnal) so maybe I'm just not thinking clearly and these are dumb questions but:
Marill = MrBump, correct?
Secret Project, what is the original post where you said that Appeal to Emotion was not a scum tell? You reference it in isos 26 and 40 (possibly more).

[Alduskkel]

wierdalex, tell me who you think is scum in your next post.

[Captain Corporal]

Alduskkel -
To be honest, I AM pretty unsure of what I'm doing. I'm accusing Secret Project of trying to pickup small mistakes and blowing them out of proportion. I guess it's not entirely AtE, then, but it is damn right an annoyance. Secret Project, time to remember Mafia is a GAME and we are here to have FUN. Nothing else. There is nothing you can accomplish by making a fool of yourself.

P-EDIT: Man, I am tired, I must have missed that post you speak of, Aldusk (if it exists). Although, that is another contradiction right there, by Secret Project.

[Alduskkel]

You can tell I'm tired. In 319 I mean that Secret Project does not always think Appeal to Emotion is a scum tell (but that it can be).

[DarthYoshi]

Sorry I didn't have time to post yesterday. I'm still waiting for adequate explanations from the following people on the following issues:

-From WormyKrew on why he/they are rolefishing and scumhunting in terms of a full scumteam so early in D1.
-From Mastin on why I'm scum.
-From monk on his odd ISO pattern. I still feel like monk is trying to slide underneath the game's collective radar.

@Alduskkel--who do you suspect on the WormyKrew wagon, if anyone, and why?

@Ironhead--I need to meta you. Can you provide me links to a recent game you played as town and a recent game you played as scum? Please and thank you!

@Captain Corporal: ISO me. I've been providing reasons why WK is scummy for a while now. The two main reasons I outline in my bulletpoint about him above--rolefishing and unhelpful scumhunting. Also, why are you lamenting hydras in the case of SP and your inability to read them, but you apparently have no problem reading WK as town?

BTW, Corporal's SP vote is OM-to-the-GUS. His reaction is over-the-top relative to what SP was dishing out.

Am I the only one seeing an Alduskkel-WormyKrew scumteam, here?

No, but same as what I told WK--why thinking in pairs before flips? VCAs on D1 are really difficult to interpret. I do think Alduskkel's casting suspicion on the WK wagon ('cept for me) is odd, hence my question to him, but honestly, it isn't like you've been a fount of reasons either, Mastin. Lots of claims with no warrants to back them up.

[mastin2]

Apparently, this whole town needs to get some sleep. What, four, five people have said theyt're tired right now?

Let' sall have one giant, long napo together and resume the game i 8 ors, shall we?