Mini 208: Weather Mafia - Game over

[Bamboomancer]

Obviously the heat wave is our last scum. What has everyone claimed so far?

[Dragon Phoenix]

I have not claimed yet, but will now, as we are in a crucial end game phase. I am sunny.

Guess what I do at night? You got it.

[Foolster41]

I'm alive? Wow!

I investigated Stryker verde and got innocent

That leaves:
StrykkerVerde - innocent. Probibly Haze (lynch breaker)
Save The Dragons - Claimed 3rd mason. both fellow masons are now dead
Dragon Phoenix II replacing massive - claimed sunny.
Foolster41 - innocent. Cop. Duh.
Bamboomancer - ??. Sorry Can't find or remember claim

I can't help but think that Save the dragons could be a godfather in a mason group (this has happend a few times before, including my own bad sleep well mafia). I find it ususual that there are 3 masons, and actually when he claimed he didn't even mention the other mason who had died before.

Then again, why would a mafia knock off the others in a mason group, who are adding a sort of plasability. I'm still wondering why they didn't target me last night.

So one of the three we should go for is Save the dragons, Baboo and Dragon pheniox
I tend to beleive dragon pheniox's claim (unless someone counter claims him) since it's a fairly obvious one.

DP: Uh, you're the vig? I really have no idea. So that leaves STD and I say we lynch STD since he's as good as a townie now anyway.

vote: std

and if we're wrong, we lynch Baboo tommarow and win.

[Foolster41]

Bah. After the , I meant to say it leaves STD and baboomancer.

[Dragon Phoenix]

Sunny.... What does the sun do at night? It's gone. I don't do anything at night, I'm a vanilla townie.

[Foolster41]

Ah, got you. Should have seen that.

In that case, a townie is a pretty easy role to claim, so maybe I'm not so sure about DP after all.

So the only one who are not cleared are Baboo, Save the dragons and dragon pheniox.

[Dragon Phoenix]

I agree that townie is easy to claim, but I also claim Sunny, which would be a daring bluff if I were scum.

But glad to see that it's dragon pheniox whom you consider not cleared, rather than me.

[Foolster41]

[sings]pheniox, phoenix.. let's call the whole thing oof![/sings]

Wow, I guess I'm being pretty talkative. Must be because I'm up late and bored.

If heatwave is the last one, then it's possible that the mod never had a "good" sun role, and "sunny" is a conceivable alternation on that.
I would REALLY like to hear the rest of baboo's role. "fog" I beleive was the claim.
if we could really get down to two people tonight, we could lynch one and garentee a victory as long as we are 100% SURE the person we clear is not scum, because the worst the mafia can do at this point is kill 1 person.

[Dragon Phoenix]

I think it is worthwhile to look again at the heated discussion on day two around the double doctor claim.

My take on this is that the scum would try to get involved as little as possible in that: anyone vehemently arguing on behalf of not lynching the would-be doctor vuredel would look extremely suspicious later on. Anyone vehemently arguing on behalf of lynching the would-be doctor scumbag would look good the next day, but it is quite a gamble given the fact that the way the discussion went there was still a reasonable chance that Vuredel would not be lynched.

Taking Foolster as confirmed goodie, we have during that UT/vuredel discussion:

Strykkerverde: did his utmost NOT to lynch Vuredel
Bamboomancer: not very vocal either way
StD: not very vocal either way
DP: adamantly advocating a Vuredel lynch

So I am pretty convinced that Bamboomancer is scum. I have an eye on StD, because 3 masons is a luxury for the town in this set-up… I would not exclude a mason GF. Also with only one scum (and a SK) dead, there could well be two more mafia amongst us. For that reason, I urge everyone not to vote yet but use FOS.

FOS Bamboomancer

[StrykkerVerde]

I personally don't like Bamboomancer in this situation because his claim sounds too close to mine. I'm not saying that it isn't possible for haze and fog to both be here. But I would think that a mod would try to get as many variable weather conditions as he can. It's not a really substantial reason I know, but pair it with the other evidence against him and it's just another reason to be suspicious of him.

I too am going to go with a

FOS: Bamboomancer

[Foolster41]

Vote Count
3 EnderX (BabyJesus, Dragon Phoenix, STD, Strykker)
1 STD (EnderX)
0 No Execution

Look who's the second to last vote. I'll follow though and

unvote:savethedragons

fos: Savethedragons

[Save The Dragons]

Uh...good for me? Why does that matter? I'm sorry we lynched an innocent, but I'm 1/4th of it.

I really want bamboomancer to talk as well, so I'll wait for him.

[Foolster41]

STD: This is logic. A common tell is where people are on bandwagons. Jeep says the 4th posistion has +10% of being scum, 5th posistion +15%. This is the 2nd to last and 3rd to last posistions for later days.

No one did something obvious, like voting vuridel while voting someone else.

Here is my breakdown of the posibilites of scum, using numbers from jeep, and more minor amouts for things not covered in the tells, but suspicious to me. I ignored the SK lynch because both sides wanted him dead anyway, and the mafia didn't know who he was anyway.

Massive/DP2: (17%)
*Last on wagon on me (+15%)
*on vuridel lynch (-2)
*on EnderX Lynch (+2)

Baboo: (12%)
Wishy washy (who to vote for? on vuredel) (+10)
Absent from wagon on me (+2)
Baboo is absent from the lynching of Vuridel (-2)
Baboo is absent from the lynching of enderx (+2)

STD: (17%)
*possibility of GF "unknown" role (+2)
*Possiblity of GF in mason as balancing factor to 3 masons (+5%)
*has posistion on bandwagon on me (+2%)
*2nd last on EnderX (+10%)
*Absent from Vuridel lynnch (-2)

So by a factor of about 2% I see STD as more suspicous, though DP2's posistion on the wagon on me makes me highly suspect DP as well.

[Foolster41]

Obviously Massive/DP's total should be 15% sorry.

[Save The Dragons]

To be honest, I'm getting a little tired of this.

STD: (17%)
*possibility of GF "unknown" role (+2)

You assume I'm a godfather because I'm unknown? I'm still not buying the logic. I'm still unconvinced that GFs even can be unkown.

*Possiblity of GF in mason as balancing factor to 3 masons (+5%)

Another assumption. And your trying to outguess the mod. +5 is way too high.

*has posistion on bandwagon on me (+2%)

You don't mean that I should have known you were a cop and stayed off your bandwagon?

*2nd last on EnderX (+10%)

I think jeep's a great guy and all, but I don't believe his tells and stuff are universal. I have to disagree, the chance that the town is putting on a vote to someone they think is scummy is equally, if not more likely than a scum casting a vote to off someone.

*Absent from Vuridel lynnch (-2)

You're missing, "*Followed BJ's reasoning, which should at least counter this fact. And again, you somehow assume I should know who is who and so I should have an informed vote. I don't, so I'll be on whatever bandwagon I please. And correct me if I'm wrong, but that's a +2.

Jeremy Bentham would be ashamed. I would suggest that if you are going to use utilitarianism to form a case against me, (or anybody, for that matter) you need to try a little harder. 3, 4, or 5 things for someone isn't an accurate representation. There's possibly 10 or 20 things. And I don't think you're unbiased enough, you're using it to try and damn me.

[Bamboomancer]

Okay, here's hte rest of my roleclaim.

Fog is... foggy. Once per game I can negate ALL night actions. I will probably be doing this tonight. I don't know who between DP and STD I believe.

As to responding to allegations, there's not much I can say. I slacked off and have been having a hell of a crappy summer, so i'm sorry.

[Bamboomancer]

New notes:

Foolster, it's BAMBOO. You've called me baboon and now you're just calling me baboo. it's NOT THAT HARD >.<

Second, me and some friends were talking today, and is sunny REALLY a weather condition? I mean, isn't it almost the ABSENCE of weather conditions? Also, his "this is a daring claim" is kinda a bust becasue he claimed last.

FOS: Dragon Phoenix

[StrykkerVerde]

Alright, I'm really tired, and i'm pretty sure Bamboomancer is scum. So unless we get some real evidence against someone else i'm going to:

Vote: Bamboomancer

[Dragon Phoenix]

is sunny REALLY a weather condition? I mean, isn't it almost the ABSENCE of weather conditions?

This is one of the weirdest arguments I have ever seen. What is the weather like tomorrow? Sunny! Nah, don't pull my leg, that's not weather....

Anyway, it is highly unlikely that hazy and foggy are both in the game, and I trust SV must more than BM (see also my argument about the doctors discussion).

Vote Bamboomancer

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[Save The Dragons]

I agree.

Vote: Bamboomancer

DP's been very into this game. Bamboomancer's been rather aloof. It might be due to having a crappy summer (which sucks, and I hope it gets better).

[Crola]

Again, a temporary twilight.

[Bamboomancer]

Look, I made a point and I'm sorry if you don't believe me but that's just my idea. Everyone else is throwing suspicion onto me and I know that strykker and foolster are innocent so I had to find a reason to dislike someone.

We KNOW there's a heat wave in the game. Heat wave had a double vote. We KNOW there's a fog in the game, it was the weather condition the next day. SOMEONE is lying, and you're lynching me instead? That doesn't make ANY sense. If you can save me from lynch please do it because if you don't then we're going to be down two more townies, most likely me and foolster, and after that, strykker has a very tough choice to make. I WILL use my ability tonight, and stop all night actions. I promise you i'm not scum, and I am almost sure either STD or DP is. In fact, I guarantee it, but if you let me die, you're probably going to lose, strykker.

[Crola]

And now the town can realize how badly they lost when I say this:

Bamboomancer (Foggy [Disruptor]) has been executed

The Mafia wins with the majority of 2.5 to 1.5 people, or 3 to 1 depending on how you look at it.

WINNERS:
StrykkerVerde (Mafia)
Vuredel (Mafia)
Dragon Phoenix II/massive (Mafia)
Save The Dragons (Neutral)

LOSERS:
Everyone else.

I will now show the roles, Night Choices, and the Awards, yes, everyone will get an award.

Oh, by the way, I messed up DP and Vuredel's names, DP is really Windy, and Viredel is really Sunny, that was my mistake that the Mafia and I worked around.

Here are the roles:
1) Heat Wave (Godfather) = Strykker
You are the Mafia Godfather and will always turn up innocent in an investigation. Your allies are Sunny, Mafia Cop (Vuredel),Windy, Mafia Cop(massive), and Cloudy, Mafia Goon (SaveTheDragons).
On only one day you can PM me and nullify the lynch. You can speak to your allies at night.

Story: You want more power than just in the Summertime and want to get rid of the other weather conditions. You know that with your strong heat powers, you can make everyone too sluggish and lazy to vote.

STD not really mafia.

Mod Note: Allow 24 hour Twilight

2) Sunny (Mafia Cop) = Vuredel
You are Mafia and can investigate every Even Night. Your allies are Heat Wave, the GF (Strykkerverde) Windy, another Mafia Cop (massive), and Cloudy, Mafia Goon (SaveTheDragons). You can speak to your allies at night.
You investigate temperature, that means you find out if some one is wet, cold, hot, etc. It may not sound like much, but it will be helpful (you'll have to figure out how though).

Story: You want more power than just on certain days and want to get rid of the other weather conditions. You and Windy are always everywhere and can see what's going on most of the time.

STD not really mafia.

3) Windy (Mafia Cop) = Dragon Phoenix II (Massive)
You are Mafia and can investigate every Odd Night. Your allies are Heat Wave, the GF (Strykkerverde) Sunny, another Mafia Cop (Vuredel), and Cloudy, Mafia Goon (SaveTheDragons). You can speak to your allies at night.
You investigate people's abilities.

Story: You want more power than just on certain days and want to get rid of the other weather conditions. You and Sunny are always everywhere and can see what's going on most of the time.

STD not really mafia.

4) Cloudy (Neutral) = Save The Dragons
You can only win by living to the end. You happen to know who the Mafia is off hand:
Godfather = Heat Wave (Strykkerverde).
Mafia Cop = Sunny (Vuredel).
Mafia Cop = Windy (massive). You can speak with the Mafia at Night.
You are neither Town nor Mafia, so be wise about your position because the Mafia knows who you are, but they don't know you're neutral.
You also know a Mason:
Raindrop (Baby Jesus).
Snowflake (HezLucky). You can speak with them at night also.

Story: Your intentions are cloudy (Ha Ha, get it, cloudy). You have a foot in each camp and don't care who wins, as long as you live.

This role is very hard, so here are some fake stories you should give to the appropriate party:
FOR MAFIA
Story: You are tired of only being a weather condition occasionally. You have joined up with various other conditions and plan to take control of the skies. You are a goon.
FOR MASON
Story: You helped in the creation of twins, Raindrop and Snowflake, and you still keep in touch with your buddies.

Comes up as cloudy in investigations.

5) Rain (Doctor) = Untrod Tripod
You are the Doctor. Pro-town.

Story: Rain on the bad guys' parade and save the other weather conditions. Not very creative, oh well . . .

6) Snow (Cop) = Foolster
You can investigate each night.

Story: Though you may be cold, you know you're doing the right thing by stopping those no good weather conditions.

Sane.

7) Hail (Vigilante) = Puzzle
You are a Vigilante with two kills.

Story: You hit them hard and it hurts. However, you can only hang around for a little bit due to low ammo. Hit ‘em fast and hit ‘em good. Your goal is to kill the Godfather.

As long as Strykker dies before him, he wins no matter what, even if he dies..

8 ) Foggy (Disruptor) = Bamboomancer
For one night only, you can make all choices not go into effect.

Story: Always being made fun of for being such a lame weather effect, you've finally decided to show your worth. You will do anything in your power to impress the other weather conditions, but this means you have to help them so there will be an audience to applaud you. Therefore, you are Pro-town.

9) Mist (Self Protector) = EnderX
You can self protect at night two times.

Story: Always the coward, you can make a smoke screen with yourself to get away. Hey, who says being the hero is a good thing, at least you won't get killed as easily.


10) Drizzle (Serial Killer) = Dragon Phoenix I
You are a Serial Killer who can kill every odd night.

Story: They called you small in the past, but you're gonna hit them big. You wanna kill every weather condition and show them who's boss. However, you are small and weak, so it won't be that easy.

11) Raindrop (Mason) = Baby Jesus
You can speak with your twin Snowflake (HezLucky) and your friend Cloudy (SaveTheDragons). Pro-town.

STD not really mason.

Story: You and Snowflake are good, loyal citizens in the world of weather and wish to stop the "not so nice" weather conditions from disrupting the balance of power that is created by the seasons.

12) Snowflake (Mason) = HezLucky
You can speak with your twin Raindrop (BabyJesus) and your friend Cloudy (SaveTheDragons). Pro-town.

STD not really mason.

Story: You and Raindrop are good, loyal citizens in the world of weather and wish to stop the "not so nice" weather conditions from disrupting the balance of power that is created by the seasons.


More stuff coming.

[Crola]

Behind the Scenes
MORNING 1
Strykker gets the double vote.
Dragon Phoenix is executed.

EVENING 1
Puzzle vigilante kills HezLucky
Untrod Tripod protects Dragon Phoenix II
Foolster investigates STD and finds out nothing
Dragon Phoenix investigates Untrod Tripod and finds out he's a doc
Dragon Phoenix kills Puzzle

MORNING 2
Foolster gets a double vote.
Vuredel is executed.

EVENING 2
EnderX uses self protect.
Bamboomancer does nothing
Foolster investigates Babyjesus and finds he's pro-town
Untrod Tripod protects Foolster
Dragon Phoenix kills Untrod Tripod

MORNING 3
Bamboomancer gets a double vote.
EnderX is executed.
EVENING 3
Bamboomancer does nothing.
Foolster investigates Strykker and finds he's pro-town.
Strykker kills BabyJesus.

MORNING 4
Foolster gets double vote
Bamboomancer is executed.
STD sides with the Mafia to end the game with the Mafia winning.

[BabyJesus]

Well, that sucked. I've never heard of a mason that wasn't fully good....doesn't that defeat the concept of a mason group?