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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:22 am

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Sorry, but I've just gotta
vote: fritzler
. He may have led to the lynch of a mafioso, but he also just had a cop dayvig'd.

Sound like a SK kind of move to anyone else, or just me and Yos? Don't forget, though, this wasn't just "some random joe", this was a claimed cop, though admittedly a probably insane one. Still, an insane cop would've helped.
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:38 pm

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W/e scum. Although let me say, it is typical for a serial killer to have one shot unnightkillable to even things out. So still major FOS ygg.
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:56 pm

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JENTSU-Booster gold/Vanilla Townie
ENDERX-Professor Charles Xavier/RoleCop
AXELROD-Batman/vig (If mlaker was insane, he is innocent)
FRITZLER- Greenlantern/bodyguard
BAMBOOMANCER- the hulk/1x dayvig Confirmed as the hulk
YGGDRASIL-Daredevil-one shot unnightkillable
YOSARIAN2-Spiderman Confirmed as spiderman

OK, better idea.
unvote vote: yggdrasil
. It's time for Pie's masterful plan of screw the mafia.*
First my claim: I'm a body guard. I can target someone, and if they are attacked, there's a 50% chance I die, and a 50% chance I live and find out who the attacker is. So i will target EnderX. He will target whomever he wants.
Ygg has claimed one shot unnight killable. That is the most serial killer power ever. It's used on serial killers so that they aren't killed by a random shot, eliminating their chance of winning. Right? Makes me think he's scum. We lynch him.
Booster is the next one not confirmed, we have axelrod vig him.
We have enderX check either me or axel rod. His pick. (that way scum can't pick who they want to off. That way we have all of our basis covered. Yosarian you can pick what you want to do, (if you have anything that could mess this plan up, don't do it).
I think they are our final two scum. If there are three kills tonight (which would happen only IF we have an sk and either Ender isn't target or my ability falls on the other 50%) then it will be EnderX alive, (guaranteed), and two others. It'll be easy to figure out from there. (In fact, we'll probalby have both scum dead, if not it's between me and Axelord, something i find highly unlikely).

*Enacted by Fritzler

Also, one other thing. The reason I forcefully exposed a cop or whatever was so I could protect him, and discover the killer. That didn't work out so great.
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:16 pm

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I dont' know what to say in response to the SK accusation. It's my role, and its a pro-town role regardless of whether or not it usually accompanies an SK role. I have seen pro-town roles have this ability (I even used it in one of the games I modded). It is confirmable, however, so Axelrod can at least tell whether or not I'm lying about the role I hold.

Also, why are you so insistent that an SK exists? We had one kill night 1 and, if Axelrod is telling the truth, one kill by an anti-town group night 2. Instead of searching for an SK who might not even exist, why don't we find the one scum we do know to exist: the mafia.

Right now my top suspects are Jentsu and EnderX. Jentsu because his role clearly does not fit in with everyone else's, and EnderX for the reasons I mentioned previously. I do not think the fact that he's the only sane cop clears him. Someone noted that there has to be an SK in order to counterbalance the power roles in the town. Well, having no sane cop and/or giving the mafia a safe roleclaim as a role cop could help counterbalance the town (especially because the role cop would help make the mafia much more powerful). One could also possibly counterbalance by giving the mafia an ability like one-shot self-protect or one-shot day vig (though one-shot day vig would be somewhat too counterbalancing).

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, since its usually not such a good idea to lynch a claimed cop.
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:29 pm

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Ygg, a few things:
1. I'm not really a cop persey, I guess I am mildly, in the same way a roleblocker would be one.
2. Even if you are vigged abd we confirm the ability, that doesn't mean you're not sk.
3. The sk could be biding their time, so we don't think there is one (I hate that kind of play)
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:30 pm

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Not really doing yourself any favors by trying to cast doubts on EnderX here. We had an insane/paranoid Cop (don't know which) already.
That's
a negative town role--which is already a counter balance to powerful town roles. Now you're seriously suggesting that the insane Cop may have been our only Cop? And the
mafia
might have gotten a Cop instead? No way.

Look at me agreeing with Fritzler.
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:31 pm

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I'm telling you guys, my strategy would work.
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:48 am

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Anyone else want to chime in here?
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:52 am

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Fritzler wrote:Ygg has claimed one shot unnight killable. That is the most serial killer power ever. It's used on serial killers so that they aren't killed by a random shot, eliminating their chance of winning. Right? Makes me think he's scum. We lynch him.
Booster is the next one not confirmed, we have axelrod vig him.
Wouldn't it be better to have axelerod vig Ygg, to test his unkillable claim?
I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:54 am

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Well yosarian, that merely tests his ability. However not his allegiance, that ability is commonly given to serial killers, and if there is a serial killer, I believe Yggdrasil to be it.
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:38 am

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Yggdrasil wrote:Right now my top suspects are Jentsu and EnderX. Jentsu because his role clearly does not fit in with everyone else's
Well, that's not really hard evidence. At least I've made it clear from the beginning that I had a pretty plain role, and also one I wasn't particularly thrilled about having.
vote: Jentsu
, since its usually not such a good idea to lynch a claimed cop.
XD YOU'RE JOKING, RIGHT?

Fritzler isn't a claimed cop. He's hardly a cop, but that he can find the name of an attacker on the person he guards, and even then he's not even garunteed survival to tell his findings. If anything, he's a doctor with both a plus and a minus, which makes it nice and flavorful, except that Green Lantern seems more like the regular doc kind of guy. He protects them with a big green forcefield, even. How would that have a 50% chance to kill him instead?

Now, the other half of that: You
are
suspicious of EnderX, who actually
is
a claimed cop. Hypocrisy, much?

And now with everything brought to light, I highly doubt there is a serial killer, especially one who wouldn't even kill the first two nights. Not killing first night, okay, but not killing two nights in a row? If we have a SK, it would be Batman, but I'm doubting we've got a SK at all.
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:04 pm

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I think that was his point, Jentsu...between you and myself (the only options he left himself) he wanted to take you out
because
I'm a claimed cop.
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:15 pm

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Guys, my plan will put us into a situation where we win the game guaranteed. Please, won't you guys follow it?
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:48 am

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Yosarian: you are the only one who hasn't claimed yet. Is that deliberate? I assume you don't have any useful information that might add to this discussion at this point?
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:39 am

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Guys, I'll be back on Sunday. Hopefully you guys would have made a decision by then, I MAY have some internetablity before then, while at Tahoe, but offical deadline is when I get back on Sunday. You guys have the weekend, get to it!
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:59 am

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Axelrod wrote:Yosarian: you are the only one who hasn't claimed yet. Is that deliberate? I assume you don't have any useful information that might add to this discussion at this point?
(shrug) As a rule, I don't ever claim my role without a good reason. As far as i can see, I don't have any specific good reason to claim at the moment.
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:25 am

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Well, the question was more whether you had a good reason
not
to say at this point. The reason
to
say is so we can then maybe judge the credibility of all the claims. Too many self-protect roles? Too many Cops? Another vanilla? Another "kill" ability", that kind of thing.

You are fairly clear at the moment, so I don't feel so bad about you keeping your secrets, but that then puts you in perhaps the best position to evaluate everyone else's claim.

So, who are you suspicious of and why?
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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:20 pm

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EnderX wrote:I think that was his point, Jentsu...between you and myself (the only options he left himself) he wanted to take you out
because
I'm a claimed cop.
yeah, i suck at life. = \
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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:18 pm

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Bah. No one is doing anything. Now I'm suspicious of Fritzler too. It occurred to me that not everyone who has a Ring is, in fact, a good guy--Sinestro anyone? If the mod was evil, and gave him a safe claim of Green Lantern, we could be in trouble.

Not withstanding this, I'm still going to
vote: Yggdrasil
because I can be a paranoid maniac sometimes, and logic tells me ygg and Jentsu are still the best targets. I will vig Jentsu in the night if ygg comes up innocent--unless people really don't want me to.

I'd kind of like EnderX to check out Fritzler (especially since Fritzler is being so nice and assuring us that EnderX will live) but that's in his discretion.
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:49 pm

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OK, guys I really think my plan will do this.
1) Lynch Ygg
2) Have axel vig jentsu
3) I protect EnderX
4) EnderX checks me or Axel (his discretion)
5) We win
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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:27 pm

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Why are you so sure that everyone else is clean, Fritzler? If, for example, EnderX is scum, then your plan could lose the game for the town.
I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:04 am

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I don't know... something doesn't feel right all of a sudden...
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SIG TIME.

Okay, it's not BABOOM. It's not BAMBOOM.
It's Bamboomancer: like necromancer, but with bamboo instead of necro.

So to recap:
I am not a Baboom. I am some sort of bamboo magic man.
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2005 3:46 pm

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Yosarian2 wrote:Why are you so sure that everyone else is clean, Fritzler? If, for example, EnderX is scum, then your plan could lose the game for the town.
Pffft, there are safeguards to get it. Beleive, the thought has occured to me, that he is the last mafia, and merely confirming other people's role names. Basically, under my plan I wouldn't start looking at this until an end game scenario.
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2005 3:55 pm

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Well if EnderX is scum, where is our Cop? I hope you aren't counting the Paranoid/Insane Human Torch.

Now if
you
were a Cop, Yosarian (spider sense and all), that would be one thing, but barring that, and also considering his general play, EnderX is looking pretty clear.
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:35 pm

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Would someone mind telling me why I'm under scumspicion?
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