239: Espionage Mafia- Game over!


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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:35 am

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I think Vis is suggesting you are trying to kill me as well. Once one of us does, we become the side we are associated with. I would become town I think as I am tracking down a rogue agent (good cause) and you would become scum since you are the rogue agent (evil cause). Or something like that.

However, if Vis truely belived that he would vote you, so I'm really unsure....
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:53 am

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hmm, well my pm night 2 suggested that you weren't working for a good cause, since you are trying to bring communism down on the whole world, so I'm disinclined to believe that you are (or would become) town.
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:02 am

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Well, thats a WIFOM. You, Vis, Stewie, and I are more or less set in our votes, so its down to darquiel and Zu_Faul.
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:05 am

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I suppose so.
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:07 am

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Its Mr. No-claim who supported the Godfather against Mr. Claimed neutral with 1 shot vig. I honestly don't know who I would vote if I didn't know you were scum.
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:09 am

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erm, where did I actualy support the godfather? I simply didn't vote him because I was too inactive to know whether he was worth voting yet.
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:12 am

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When did you say this before now?
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:53 pm

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mod: please update opening post
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:59 pm

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Ok, I'll get on it. I'd like a mass check in. I'd like everyone who still wants to be active in this game to post, and if you don't PM me and I'll replace you.
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:23 pm

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Mod: I think that just means darquiel gets replaced....
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:58 pm

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But for my organization purposes it would greatly help me as well if you PMed or posted saying you're here.
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:09 pm

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I think Vis is suggesting you are trying to kill me as well. Once one of us does, we become the side we are associated with. I would become town I think as I am tracking down a rogue agent (good cause) and you would become scum since you are the rogue agent (evil cause).
Exactly, just like the palestinian authority and the isreali guy, I think. But since you two seem to be recruits, that means you cannot be actually scum right now. It seems like neutral roles to me.
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:08 am

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armlx wrote:When did you say this before now?
I wasn't under the impression that I was being voted for that reason :shock:
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:00 am

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I'm happy with my vote, but this means we have a tie... I don't know how to solute this. And I think we all don't know how the "neutral" roles will work out, do we?
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:03 am

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MoS: One of the main arguements against you was the fact that you didn't vote VK after his slip up.....

There might be a better way to resolve todays lynch then a WIFOM between me and MoS however. Assuming we are, as Vis say, recruits, lynching another town member rather then one of us would have the same chances of catching scum, except if we were right it would reduce tonight's kills by one. I have a feeling MoS becomes SK once I die though, but that would mean the mafia would not want to kill me or him and neither would the SK (more competition or kill a neutral over a townie?). I feel so stupid for not realizing this sooner though....

If my math is wrong on this, someone please correct me though. I think that this option gives us a 2 town- 1 mafia/SK - set up tommorow (I night kill MoS and turn town) if we lynch right rather than a

(town- mafia- SK)
3/16 chance of 2-1-1
6/16 chance of 1-1-1
6/16 chance of 2-1-0 or 2-0-1
1/16 chance of win

Of course, in both cases if we lynch wrong bad things happen. These above chances are not including a lynch of MoS today, me turning town, then killing someone
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someone else having an ability to change it. Also if me and MoS are not recruits things get screwy....
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:13 pm

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Assuming we are, as Vis say, recruits,
Well, are you?
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:07 am

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armlx wrote:MoS: One of the main arguements against you was the fact that you didn't vote VK after his slip up.....

There might be a better way to resolve todays lynch then a WIFOM between me and MoS however. Assuming we are, as Vis say, recruits, lynching another town member rather then one of us would have the same chances of catching scum, except if we were right it would reduce tonight's kills by one. I have a feeling MoS becomes SK once I die though, but that would mean the mafia would not want to kill me or him and neither would the SK (more competition or kill a neutral over a townie?). I feel so stupid for not realizing this sooner though....

If my math is wrong on this, someone please correct me though. I think that this option gives us a 2 town- 1 mafia/SK - set up tommorow (I night kill MoS and turn town) if we lynch right rather than a

(town- mafia- SK)
3/16 chance of 2-1-1
6/16 chance of 1-1-1
6/16 chance of 2-1-0 or 2-0-1
1/16 chance of win

Of course, in both cases if we lynch wrong bad things happen. These above chances are not including a lynch of MoS today, me turning town, then killing someone
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someone else having an ability to change it. Also if me and MoS are not recruits things get screwy....
1) I don't know what you mean by recruit, so I'm confused on that point
2) You yourself admitted that you didn't know whether you would become town. Chances are just as good that you will remain scum (or as you claim, neutral).
3) I know for a fact that nothing happens to me if you die. I'm not hunting you. I couldn't care less if you died except for the fact that the mod told me you were anti-town, and I'm trying to get rid of all the scum.

I'm not going to bother setting up statistics to fool with your brain, because all statistics that anyone could give you are WIFOM arguments in the first place, and therefore hold no truth to them at all.
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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:19 am

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Recruit is a neutral player who gets town/join scum on certain conditions.
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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:51 am

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oh, well I'm not claiming neutral, am I? Armlx may be a recruit, though if that's the case the mod's pm to me was highly misleading, but I am not a recruit.
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:06 am

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See, the problem MoS is you aren't claiming at all. Therefore I have to assume you are the opposite recruit and that I am a recruit.
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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:44 pm

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Still that makes the SK and #2 still out there.
zu_faul and stewie?
but I am not a recruit.
Hm, so you are clearly protown?I think there already were two roles seeking out each other, and then becoming whatever side, I think.
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:18 am

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I AM NOT SEEKING OUT ARMLX. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO REPEAT THIS. I AM NOT THE SVR AGENT THAT ARMLX IS HUNTING. I WAS SIMPLY NOTIFIED ON NIGHT 2 THAT THERE WAS AN EX-KGB AGENT OUT THERE, AND THE PM INDICATED THAT HE WAS, IN ALL PROBABILITY, SCUM. I AM
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:43 am

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I see. That does not really help. Still, I dont think an exkgb agent is #2.
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:43 am

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This seems like a deadlock to me. Any suggestions?
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:34 am

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Just putting up some statistic is completly irrelavant. We don't know ANYTHING for 100% sure, so how can you give percentages?
I'll stay with my vote.
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