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Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 7:07 pm
*sigh*...
I think I'm having trouble because the slot is a hydra... but f's posts are much better than b's, and after re-reading the thread, i think b's abrasiveness just gives me scumvibes. i know that's not a scumtell, and I'm just not sure since giving the thread another look over.
so,
UNVOTE:
I'd be willing to vote A_Stone as my second top read at the moment.
I think I'm having trouble because the slot is a hydra... but f's posts are much better than b's, and after re-reading the thread, i think b's abrasiveness just gives me scumvibes. i know that's not a scumtell, and I'm just not sure since giving the thread another look over.
so,
UNVOTE:
I'd be willing to vote A_Stone as my second top read at the moment.
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 7:11 pm
buldermar is *slightly* more abrasive than me though I have my moments. The questions that are about his tone/banter he'll have to answer. Questions about our reads or about my posts, I'll field.
- f
- f
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 7:57 pm
Any idea on when you are going to get around to this?
Can you really…In post 296, RedCoyote wrote:Why shouldn't they?In post 277, ² wrote:I never claimed every single one of my posts lives up to these criteria.In post 276, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:This post indicates otherwise, to bring up just one example (of many).
I can say that about each and every one of my posts, why can't you?
… that’s a quarter of your posts. I think you are tunneling and lurking. I get that you think 2 is scum but with the votes so scattered it would be helpful to know what your thoughts on some of the other players are.In post 102, RedCoyote wrote:Mod, how many of these lovely pictures do you have? I love these sort of jokes.
You’d be willing to vote A_Stone as your second read? Does that mean 2 is still your first read? Is your willingness to vote Stone a compromise vote?In post 301, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:*sigh*...
I think I'm having trouble because the slot is a hydra... but f's posts are much better than b's, and after re-reading the thread, i think b's abrasiveness just gives me scumvibes. i know that's not a scumtell, and I'm just not sure since giving the thread another look over.
so,
UNVOTE:
I'd be willing to vote A_Stone as my second top read at the moment.
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 9:35 pm
Echoing this, dat activity :/In post 303, Mr E Roll wrote:
You’d be willing to vote A_Stone as your second read? Does that mean 2 is still your first read? Is your willingness to vote Stone a compromise vote?
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 2:46 am
@Mr. E: not second in rank of scumminess, second as in other scumread, now that I am less positive about 2.
What does the last bit mean? A compromise vote?
What does the last bit mean? A compromise vote?
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 3:11 am
As in voting for someone you think is a lot less scummy than your primary scumspect because they happen to be the Town's choice...
Way too early in this day for a need for a compromise yet...
Usually happens when the day is near deadline to make sure there is a lynch..
Way too early in this day for a need for a compromise yet...
Usually happens when the day is near deadline to make sure there is a lynch..
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 3:17 am
Ah thanks rach.
Not a compromise vote. With my uncertainty about 2, a_stone has become my top scum read.
Not a compromise vote. With my uncertainty about 2, a_stone has become my top scum read.
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 4:35 am
Fair point, MER. A bit harsh and technical, but fair.
That doesn't mean I am wrong about ², however.
I like you, AS, and Rach.
I am not particularly impressed with soat (very awkward, disjointed comments... seems a bit listless), ² (aforementioned reasons), tne (too dependant, allowing himself to be influenced by others).
ETL seems genuine enough, although I could see her as setting herself up to look like she's having difficulties deciding when she really isn't. goodmorning is the wild card in the group.
That doesn't mean I am wrong about ², however.
I like you, AS, and Rach.
I am not particularly impressed with soat (very awkward, disjointed comments... seems a bit listless), ² (aforementioned reasons), tne (too dependant, allowing himself to be influenced by others).
ETL seems genuine enough, although I could see her as setting herself up to look like she's having difficulties deciding when she really isn't. goodmorning is the wild card in the group.
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 4:38 am
@RC: if 2 is scum, who do you think might be the partner?
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 4:43 am
tne would be my kneejerk reaction.
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 4:45 am
lawlz so randum ^_~;;;In post 286, goodmorning wrote:I am relatively sure I know who the scums are but it's just a really hard gut read and a fuckton of associative tells and my brain is going NO NO YOU CAN'T MAKE A CASE SOLELY ON ASSOCIATIVE TELLS D1 NO FLIPS YOU BIG STUPID IDIOT STOP THAT STAY OBJECTIVE but my gut is going NO NO I WANT TO SAY IT AND I AM TOTALLY RIGHT, IT SHOULD BE REALLY OBVIOUS BUT THEN WHAT THINGY AND BLAH BLAH WALRUS
Enlighten us. Have you played with some of these guys before? I am fairly sure I've never played with you.
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 5:30 am
RC, I'm kind of at a standstill re your concerns about me/us, since they relate mostly to what I perceive as the posting style of my partner.In post 308, RedCoyote wrote:Fair point, MER. A bit harsh and technical, but fair.
That doesn't mean I am wrong about ², however.
I like you, AS, and Rach.
I am not particularly impressed with soat (very awkward, disjointed comments... seems a bit listless), ² (aforementioned reasons), tne (too dependant, allowing himself to be influenced by others).
ETL seems genuine enough, although I could see her as setting herself up to look like she's having difficulties deciding when she really isn't. goodmorning is the wild card in the group.
Your and my reads differ dramatically in places, but we agree on Mr E Roll, TNE, GM and I think ETL. My impression is that she's earnest, transparent hardworking town, though I'll keep her newbie scum win in mind. With no site meta, one's scum game isn't at all constrained by prior-game town behaviors.
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Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 7:54 am
I know I unvoted A stone b/c I didn't like how his wagon was forming and how fast people piled suspicion on him for I think not good reasons and plus he didnt seem as scummy as I once thought. As for rachmarie... I'll get to it. It's not something I could explain in one sentence but really a scummy pattern i see to her posts it'd be much easier to just point out specifics rather than generalize
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 12:55 pm
I believe I was the one assessing actions based on whether they are more likely to be town motivated than scum motivated (though I think f is doing a similar thing).In post 283, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Weren't you the one talking about assessing actions based on whether it was town-motivated or scum-motivated? What town motivation is there in randomly voting someone and not sharing the thought process behind it? Maybe he saw something the rest of us missed? Instead of just explaining it, he gave me attitude.
I think most are equally motivated to doing random voting as scum and town, but doing random voting is inherently anti-town. In other words, with respect to being motivated by alignment it is most often null.
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Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 12:56 pm
It isn't a good attack either.In post 284, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:If you bothered to actually read anything I've said, you'd know how I feel about A_Stone. I just happen to think you may also be scum. Ad Hom isn't a good defense.In post 279, ² wrote:Perhaps you're simple not emotionally or intellectually capable of understanding the concerns I've raised regarding A_stone.
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 12:57 pm
Would you have done so had we been near deadline?In post 285, RachMarie wrote:Am I supposed to just vote for 2 even if I dont think they are likely to be scum just cause peeps dont like how much they post?
I think we can do better than that...
Not like we are on deadline yet or anything...
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Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 12:58 pm
Either way it could be productive to share it?In post 286, goodmorning wrote:I was reading this game, and I didn't feel like I was in it. Then I saw my facepalmcat and realized that I am in this game.
I am relatively sure I know who the scums are but it's just a really hard gut read and a fuckton of associative tells and my brain is going NO NO YOU CAN'T MAKE A CASE SOLELY ON ASSOCIATIVE TELLS D1 NO FLIPS YOU BIG STUPID IDIOT STOP THAT STAY OBJECTIVE but my gut is going NO NO I WANT TO SAY IT AND I AM TOTALLY RIGHT, IT SHOULD BE REALLY OBVIOUS BUT THEN WHAT THINGY AND BLAH BLAH WALRUS
Also it's quarter past 2am, so that probably explains that slightly but maybe not.
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Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 12:59 pm
Too late to answer this one now - for obvious reasons.In post 288, A_Stone wrote:Yes, yes it was.
- b
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 1:00 pm
Not many. I'm playing fferyllt, have played Rach and tne, and Stone has been an early-replace out in two of my games. I'm not talking meta tells for Scum particularly, though meta is something I find in favour of the hydra at the moment.In post 311, RedCoyote wrote:Enlighten us. Have you played with some of these guys before? I am fairly sure I've never played with you.
PEDIT @2: As I said, I'd rather wait. Keeping the other in the dark is something that's worked out well for me in the past.
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 1:01 pm
The question answers itself by making the simple assumption that I'm town: I asked because I didn't know (as opposed to asking while knowing, which would make me scum and which is what you insinuated that I did).In post 288, A_Stone wrote:>.> Are you ever going to answer why the question had to be asked, or are you just going to make a case on how I'm backpedaling to the sunrise in your opinion
- b
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 1:04 pm
This kind of phrasing is scummy. You didn't unvote when youIn post 288, A_Stone wrote:1. I unvoted when I thought it was the general consensus that RVS was over, there was no point in holding my RVS vote after that point.
wanted
the RVS to be over or when you had made up your mind, or when someone better came along to vote, or when you thought your vote was no longer of use. You waited
and unvoted when doing so would be in accordance with the general consensus. That's exactly what scum does: stays in accordance with consensus without worrying about progressing the game or making reads.- b
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 1:05 pm
This is fencesitting.In post 288, A_Stone wrote:I'm still checking out who I'd like to vote right now, I'm thinking about 2 but I'd like to see a bit more, it's pretty much just gut and a bad feeling right now. I'd just like to step back and look at everyone a bit more before I make my decision.
- b
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 1:06 pm
You started doing this immediately after I called you out for tunneling on me and making a shit case on why I'd be scum.In post 288, A_Stone wrote:3. It's just something I do, I like to see activity from everyone.
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Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 1:09 pm
I'm pretty sure we have posted the most in terms of amounts or letters, words, questions asked, questions answered, statements and the like as well.In post 288, A_Stone wrote:He looks like he has an amazingly strong presence doesn't he, then suddenly we realize he's using a post to answer every question individually.
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