Mini 1576 - Timeshift Mafia II - Endgame

[Dr Pants]

and he's V/LA. welllllll

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bulba
Quit lurking!

[Bulbazak]

bulba placed a naked vote on kazemara at a time when there were active victor/metal pushes.

I didn't like either of those pushes. Why do you think I would?

Also I disagree with your Molla read. This is way more fluffier than typical town Molla.

Unvote

Vote BBMolla

@Dr Pants: Why did you run away from your Jeesh vote when Jeesh/Kaze became front and center? I understand not wanting to get in the fight, but I can't understand avoiding the spotlight altogether.

[Dr Pants]

if something big goes down between Jeesh and Ms Kaze, I want it to be later in the day. Eight people have less than 20 posts right now. Three people have less than 10. I don't want a battle between two of the larger players in the game to happen before others start posting more.

Plus, I don't trust either of them.

[Bulbazak]

I'm starting to reconsider Kaze. I keep getting mixed signals on Jeesh. But I can understand your position when you explain it like that.

[BBmolla]

bulba placed a naked vote on kazemara at a time when there were active victor/metal pushes.

I didn't like either of those pushes. Why do you think I would?

Also I disagree with your Molla read. This is way more fluffier than typical town Molla.

Unvote

Vote BBMolla

@Dr Pants: Why did you run away from your Jeesh vote when Jeesh/Kaze became front and center? I understand not wanting to get in the fight, but I can't understand avoiding the spotlight altogether.

Not really dude, my play is pretty on par with interactionless town Molla.

[Bulbazak]

I just did a reread of your ISO and decided a vote on you is dumb anyway.

Unvote

Still don't like some of your actions. You know the ones.

[BBmolla]

Voting you?

[Jeesh5]

I don't care about my read on you, earlier. That's nothing but a scum-claim coming from you mollie

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

so I take it iamrite

the reason for bulba town is also pretty shit because starting fights isn't something bulba, as a person, isn't scared of and it's the kind of thing that would leak to both alignments

pretty sure bulba knows what I am talking about!

[Jeesh5]

I agree with Pie on this. I'm not sure why Bane straight up believed the claim and went for the "VT's shouldn't claim, so you're scum". It ignores the obvious alternative that Ms. Kaze is bluffing, but he seems to be pretty convinced that they aren't. Plus the "if you're town its still good for you to die".... oh man.

there kind of is never a good situ ever where some1 softclaims vt.

I find it interesting that somehow you and bulba manage to never address this point at all.

[Jeesh5]

Pedit: what of it?

there is absolutely nothing in my play that should make mollie think "holy shit, mara is scum", and she should be thinking the exact opposite. It's blatantly obvious that I have been making posts that would bring pretty much nothing but attention to my slot, and I have never had the guts to do that as scum, because of what my mindset tends to be as scum, town, and PR

I want to address this.

we hydra-ed in the popcorn game with mala and you caught a lot of attention to our slot by engaging with wis much like how you are doing now.

so what you are pushing for your defense is a null case, and that stands out.

I think you are trying to cover an earlier misstep. that is what it feels like.

when you are town you hard defend your townreads in a way that moves me to internet violence (but sometimes you are so right!) and I feel the need to back down.

I am not getting that at all in this game.

like who are your townreads. cos I have no idea.

[PeregrineV]

Say something that makes me want to vote Ms. Kaze, but will go find it, and catch up.

[Kcdaspot]

Kaze is a vi and you are all idiots..

we have D1 scum in victor.

FFS GET ERM!

[Anatole Kuragin]

Trying to catch up here after being gone all weekend - I'm reading Jeesh and Kaze both as likely town so maybe you guys should probably stop bickering and work together?

[VictorDeAngelo]

UNVOTE: VOTE: Bulbazak

The whole vote BBMolla then quick unvote looks too staged for my liking. Still not really liking Molla though, and not ready to rule them out as scumbuddies.

[Bulbazak]

Voting you?

No, and I'm not going to say anymore on the subject.

pretty sure bulba knows what I am talking about!

I might. Remind me anyway.

I agree with Pie on this. I'm not sure why Bane straight up believed the claim and went for the "VT's shouldn't claim, so you're scum". It ignores the obvious alternative that Ms. Kaze is bluffing, but he seems to be pretty convinced that they aren't. Plus the "if you're town its still good for you to die".... oh man.

there kind of is never a good situ ever where some1 softclaims vt.

I find it interesting that somehow you and bulba manage to never address this point at all.

I found it to be meh and didn't feel like addressing it.

The whole vote BBMolla then quick unvote looks too staged for my liking.

My strategy as scum is to act like I do as town. Staging a vote like that is just not something that would occur to me.

[PeregrineV]

Pie is town, btw.

In the meantime, I don't really understand the Victorwagon.

Here it is.

Vote: Ms Kazekirimara

[Dr Pants]

I agree with Pie on this. I'm not sure why Bane straight up believed the claim and went for the "VT's shouldn't claim, so you're scum". It ignores the obvious alternative that Ms. Kaze is bluffing, but he seems to be pretty convinced that they aren't. Plus the "if you're town its still good for you to die".... oh man.

there kind of is never a good situ ever where some1 softclaims vt.

I find it interesting that somehow you and bulba manage to never address this point at all.

well cause you just said that softclaiming vt is always bad. I get that's not a good idea, but I'm new enough that its not in my list of scum reads, and I'm hardheaded enough to ignore people when they just saying something is true because it is true.

UNVOTE: VOTE: Bulbazak

The whole vote BBMolla then quick unvote looks too staged for my liking. Still not really liking Molla though, and not ready to rule them out as scumbuddies.

quit making me change my vote

UNVOTE:

[Dr Pants]

PV can you please answer my 154?

[VictorDeAngelo]

UNVOTE: VOTE: Bulbazak

The whole vote BBMolla then quick unvote looks too staged for my liking. Still not really liking Molla though, and not ready to rule them out as scumbuddies.

quit making me change my vote

UNVOTE:

I'm not. Try thinking for yourself.

[PeregrineV]

But what I gained from 100 was:
Victor not a fan of the no lynch made by Molla & Pie.
He has not played a game with me to his knowledge.
Has Kazekirimara as town.
Does not like Metal's SK-hunting.
Calls Jeesh's questions a load of crap. But assigns this attribute to himself also, so not so much as an attack as an observation that fits with the spirirt of those questions.
Thinks Metal's 49 is scummy.
Doesn't like Molla's 52 or his sheeping of Jeesh.
Points out bulba's lack of reads/opinions.
Wants Pants scumread explained by Kaze.

So, all in all, I think it was an above average post.

Talk to me about this. I can understand getting a null read from the post, given that at least my own criticisms are for tone and fluff within the post. But what makes it an above average post? Additionally, why do you feel the need to defend it?

Yes, the post has fluff. People like to play around sometimes (<---keyword here), so meh. As for tone, I've seen better and worse, so nothing for that.
What makes the post above average is it delivers information on Victor's mindset/gameview. I prefer it to be presented better, in general, but someone just saying "that post was scummy" without more detail, then I'm thinking you mean it came from scum and does not contain game information.

So, if you don't like the points he made, fine. If you don't like the tone, fine. Lots of posts contain no info and are scummy. I think 100 did contain info, so if you want me to think it's scummy you need to tell me why. I've said why it contained info, so that's the burden needed to overcome to convince me.
(the you is the universal you, not you Dr Pants)

Also, haven't actually caught up, but since you asked and I saw it, here you go.

[Ms Kazekirimara]

Haven't you guys figured out we're an innocent child yet? :3

[Jeesh5]

Haven't you guys figured out we're an innocent child yet? :3

then have the gm confirm cos that is the only way I will believe it.

yeah, I am calling your bluff.

[Ms Kazekirimara]

Sigh.

We are a member of the town, guize.

Did you not hear? We're a member of the town, silly goose.

We're a Member of the Town. That's our role name.

There's no sample role PM, so there's no way we'd know the name unless we were the genuine article.

Snap crackle pop.

[Dr Pants]

wow! what an impressive bluff!

wow! what a tough move by jeesh, calling out such a strong bluff!

who will prevail in this exciting battle that will capture the full attention of the town?

find out tomorrow in: "day 1 lurkers get a free pass because the loud people decided to gun for each other"

[Jeesh5]

wow! what an impressive bluff!

wow! what a tough move by jeesh, calling out such a strong bluff!

who will prevail in this exciting battle that will capture the full attention of the town?

find out tomorrow in: "day 1 lurkers get a free pass because the loud people decided to gun for each other"

I am not quite sure what you think you are accomplishing with all of the dick waving and I have a pretty high tolerance for dick waving.

at some point you have to stop and realise you are being a dick. <--- still learning this lesson btw!

@ kazemara

I am still not seeing any scumhunting or townhunting from you. all I am getting is posturing.