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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:15 am
by You Got Schooled
VOTE: Green Crayons

For reasons stated above.

-bella

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:20 am
by ika
ika wrote:scum reside in ZZZX/TGS/Newbie

thats where i stand right now

ika wrote:
Green Crayons wrote:
ZZZX wrote:I am really busy for 3 days but it shouldnt be a problem. will read up really soon (and i will have limitless free time !)

This is scum?


do you think its not?

i mean hes null to me right now so is in my POE pool


^

scum reside in set player list does not mean i am expensively scum reading them.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:21 am
by ika
lane0168 wrote:Talk is cheap, that's why there's no limit on posting.


but spam posting is apathising and anti-town?

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:22 am
by ZZZX
I go to check my pms and a quick view on games before i sleep at the night of the exam and it seems im scum read without even posting :roll: :roll:

anyway a few more days, it ends on 21st so yea.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:30 am
by lane0168
ika wrote:
lane0168 wrote:Talk is cheap, that's why there's no limit on posting.


but spam posting is apathising and anti-town?


WHat? What's apathising? And I didn't say spam posting or apathising is anti town... I said talk is cheap. Cheaper still without a vote

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:32 am
by ZZZX
lane0168 wrote:
ika wrote:
lane0168 wrote:Talk is cheap, that's why there's no limit on posting.


but spam posting is apathising and anti-town?


WHat? What's apathising? And I didn't say spam posting or apathising is anti town... I said talk is cheap. Cheaper still without a vote

What you dont pay, others will pay (when trying to go thro it all.)

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:36 am
by ika
lane0168 wrote:
ika wrote:
lane0168 wrote:Talk is cheap, that's why there's no limit on posting.


but spam posting is apathising and anti-town?


WHat? What's apathising? And I didn't say spam posting or apathising is anti town... I said talk is cheap. Cheaper still without a vote


yet you have double the post count of everyone here (outside of YGS who is a hydra)

i will place my vote when i feel like it. rght now im geting a feel out on players due to the mere fact its day 1. when someone does soemthing that really pings me off i will place a vote but no sooner.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:37 am
by ika
GC if you were to pick the scum team who would it be right now?

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:40 am
by lane0168
Ok... so what are you saying about my post count. You act like I brought up post count. I have no idea what you're getting at

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:42 am
by lane0168
And I'm sorry if I'm sPam posting but I'm also not. I need to respond to things as they come up. I only have a phone and reading back, catching up, and quoting stuff is a bitch

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:50 am
by ika
lane0168 wrote:Ok... so what are you saying about my post count. You act like I brought up post count. I have no idea what you're getting at

lane0168 wrote:And I'm sorry if I'm sPam posting but I'm also not. I need to respond to things as they come up. I only have a phone and reading back, catching up, and quoting stuff is a bitch


it goes to your "talk is cheap" phrase

you say its cheap and we should all be voting, but your continued antis to spam post make it look a lot more then needed and honestly make me come to this game less and less

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:59 am
by Persivul
You Got Schooled wrote:Persivul, the eye roll was a) our vote was there before we moved it to you, so your comment is odd and b) your vote is kinda terrible. I don't really understand your explanation. Your poke at ika looks better, though.

-bella

Can you explain to me why you emphasized the bit about the no lynch? I thought you were indicating that it appeared scummy.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 10:04 am
by Green Crayons
ika wrote:GC if you were to pick the scum team who would it be right now?

YGS: BBT-head (is that really him?) is acting SUPER WEIRD for all reasons I have stated in thread. Not like the BBT-scum I have played with, but also not like the BBT-town I have played with. Also this isn't a personality clash, because BBT and I get along just fine, so something is very much up. (pre-post edit: maybe this is what BBT-town acts like if he thinks GC is scum? my god that's frustrating.) Bella seems much more reasonable, if I were to assume that she has to believe that BBT-head is town, which I hate because ugh goddammit just make me warm and comfortable with my scum read.

uhhhh, POE after that.

Jeanne11 is comical "failed to pick up PM" scum.

I don't see anything scummy OR SUSPICIOUS OH MY GOD EQUATING THE TWO?!?? about lane's, Newbie's, or BB's play, and affirmatively think that there has been town play from each (in descending order of strength of reads).

I can't read ika. At least not atm.

sthar could be lazy scum.
ZZZX could be IRL busy scum.
Persivul I thought was town for the first half of what game there is, but after that he's been saying things that don't really get me feeling rad.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 10:50 am
by sthar8
lane0168 wrote:Sthar8. Comes in. Doesn't say shit. Votes Obvi wagon. Noted

My first post in the game, after it's been open for six hours, including my RVS vote. Your standard is unreasonable, and you either need to adjust it, or prepare yourself for a boatload of disappointment.

@BB- the coordination required by your plan limits it's effectiveness as a deterrent to scum. They will know if they can use their shots to autowin, town will not. I am not okay with that. Also, under no circumstances should JK out on a single blocked kill. That's insane.

Newbie wrote:Okay...you can't blame people for seeing such an action as scummy. The reason you don't is because you've done something similar yourself while being town. Maybe not all of us have that same experience. :roll:

lane0168 wrote:Riiighgghhhhttttt..... well that was dumb of you too and you deserve to deal with bullshit if you're gonna be that lazy

These two posts are utter, ridiculous shitposting. Try to be better, please.

lane0168 wrote:Well that was super aggresive

oh my you have no idea

there are people in the game who know what aggressive me looks like. we're not there yet.

Persivul wrote:
ika wrote:
honestly i was gonna suggest we all target person below (where bottom targets top) and go from there

I was thinking about that method too, but I don't think it works. The problem is that we have PRs, who presumably don't show as a "visit" (correct me if that's wrong), and who should be free to target as they see fit. So:

- if you're town and you don't get a visit, the person above you might be a scum, or might be a PR

- if you're scum and you don't get a visit (and assuming your fellow scum isn't just above you),
you know the person above you is a PR


I'd like to see some methodology with visits that benefits town, but this isn't it. The ABCXYZ method might be a little better, but has flaws of its own.

Visitor is not the same as fruit vendor.

lane0168 wrote:Also @sthar8. I'm mobile. both my laptops are broken. Just played a whole game mobile, granted it was 2 days. Either way, it's not that tough to tag mobile. or read. Or give reads. And don't call me a dipshit cause you can't find the [, ], and / button on your phone. And haven't contributed dick. That doesn't make me the dipshit

Do you store your common sense in your laptops?

You Got Schooled wrote: - Quick note on the attempt at game breaking; can we not do that?

Thanks.

Why?
lane0168 wrote:
You Got Schooled wrote: - Quick note on the attempt at game breaking; can we not do that?

Thanks.


Agreed. If that's happening let me know and I'll think about replacing out

Why?


caught up to there. gotta do some work. more later.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 11:58 am
by BBmolla
sthar8 wrote:They will know if they can use their shots to autowin, town will not.

If we no lynch there is no scenario where they can autowin.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 11:59 am
by You Got Schooled
ika wrote:scum reside in ZZZX/TGS/Newbie

thats where i stand right now

Ika you should stop being bad at mafia for one game.

Just one game.

Sheep me on GC. You'll see.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 12:04 pm
by You Got Schooled
[quote="In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 8#p6873688]
YGS: BBT-head (is that really him?) is acting SUPER WEIRD for all reasons I have stated in thread. Not like the BBT-scum I have played with, but also not like the BBT-town I have played with. Also this isn't a personality clash, because BBT and I get along just fine, so something is very much up. (pre-post edit: maybe this is what BBT-town acts like if he thinks GC is scum? my god that's frustrating.) Bella seems much more reasonable, if I were to assume that she has to believe that BBT-head is town, which I hate because ugh goddammit just make me warm and comfortable with my scum read.[/quote]
You haven't given any reasons? You're really holding onto the suspicious/scummy thing though (I'm not sure if you read my comment about it?)

You know I love you GC. It's just unfortunate you rolled scum, maybe next time we both get to be town. That would be great.

I mean, we both know you're pretty bad at reading me. If I were scum, you'd be town reading me for sure :)

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 12:04 pm
by You Got Schooled
Meh.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 12:08 pm
by You Got Schooled
EBWOP:
Green Crayons wrote:
YGS: BBT-head (is that really him?) is acting SUPER WEIRD for all reasons I have stated in thread. Not like the BBT-scum I have played with, but also not like the BBT-town I have played with. Also this isn't a personality clash, because BBT and I get along just fine, so something is very much up. (pre-post edit: maybe this is what BBT-town acts like if he thinks GC is scum? my god that's frustrating.) Bella seems much more reasonable, if I were to assume that she has to believe that BBT-head is town, which I hate because ugh goddammit just make me warm and comfortable with my scum read.

You haven't given any reasons? You're really holding onto the suspicious/scummy thing though (I'm not sure if you read my comment about it?)

You know I love you GC. It's just unfortunate you rolled scum, maybe next time we both get to be town. That would be great.

I mean, we both know you're pretty bad at reading me. If I were scum, you'd be town reading me for sure :)

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 12:20 pm
by Green Crayons
Ah so you are going to take the "this is how I play when I read you as scum" out to explain away your weirdness.

w/r/t "suspicion v. scummy," Are you referring to ? That's a weaksauce after-the-fact explanation of why, instead of simply answering my question (like Newbie did very easily), you instead go "WHOA LET'S USE THE WORD SCUMMY NOT SUSPICIOUS" as if that was relevant at all.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 12:23 pm
by Green Crayons
I'm not good at reading ika, but I don't care for his buddying of me.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 12:24 pm
by ika
You Got Schooled wrote:
ika wrote:scum reside in ZZZX/TGS/Newbie

thats where i stand right now

Ika you should stop being bad at mafia for one game.

Just one game.

Sheep me on GC. You'll see.


i dont sheep

i do see the merits on why GC can be scum but you should also be willing to admit your own flaws as well (like how GC was showing you follwing the logic does lead to that conclusion)

GC, gun to head am i town or scum?

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 12:25 pm
by You Got Schooled
Newbie wrote:
Lane's lynch wasn't going anywhere, and I liked his reaction to sthar not unvoting him.

OK, but if you think he is scum that wouldn't be a reason to stop pushing him, would it?

Like, if you really think he is scum, you keep pushing no matter what to try and persuade people you're right. You don't just give up because nobody is following immediately.

You don't think that would be an easy stance for scum to take? It's a very simple observation to make.

Ae you interested in joining a GC wagon?

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 12:26 pm
by You Got Schooled
Green Crayons wrote:Ah so you are going to take the "this is how I play when I read you as scum" out to explain away your weirdness.

w/r/t "suspicion v. scummy," Are you referring to ? That's a weaksauce after-the-fact explanation of why, instead of simply answering my question (like Newbie did very easily), you instead go "WHOA LET'S USE THE WORD SCUMMY NOT SUSPICIOUS" as if that was relevant at all.

I don't think I've been weird... Can you clarify the weirdness you're seeing and what exactly you think it means.

Yeah, 215 is it. I turns out to be a valid point though? Like, Lane explicitly says himself he was suspicious of Ika but NOT scum reading him so....

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 12:27 pm
by You Got Schooled
ika wrote:
i dont sheep

i do see the merits on why GC can be scum but you should also be willing to admit your own flaws as well (like how GC was showing you follwing the logic does lead to that conclusion)

GC, gun to head am i town or scum?

I just dislike game breaking strategies.

What reasons do you see for GC scum?