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In post 299, Firebringer wrote:Your current rate of completion on games is about 20%.
That means only 20% of your games you play from start to finish.

I believe this number is also inflated because you die early on for reasons in games where you "complete" them.
As in Policy Lynched day 1 or shot by someone. So that number of completion is a bit high.

In post 299, Firebringer wrote:

In post 297, Yume wrote:It's also demonstrable that I don't.

Your current rate of completion on games is about 20%.
That means only 20% of your games you play from start to finish.

Now ignoring whether you ruin games for players while inside them.
You do make the games harder for moderators.

Speaking from personal experience here, I have replaced you in three different of my games.

and as I said the first is fixable by not letting her join multiple games at once or to be in hydras

the ruin part and if she doesn't know how to play is fixable over time

you guys really need to get your shit together and consider others human beings as well

In post 299, Firebringer wrote:

In post 297, Yume wrote:It's also demonstrable that I don't.

Your current rate of completion on games is about 20%.
That means only 20% of your games you play from start to finish.

Now ignoring whether you ruin games for players while inside them.
You do make the games harder for moderators.

Speaking from personal experience here, I have replaced you in three different of my games.

If you are gonna go there, then I don't want to be in the games of someone who holds real life issues secondary to playing games.

applying restrictions to her games is understandable. Not letting her play is understandable. attacking her constantly is not.

she Can change her previous attidue. its a proven fact.

Frozen, I am plenty willing to give someone a second chance. (In this case it would be fourth)

My huge problem with Yume right now, is she completely ignores the fact how much she has fucked up.
She has yet to say "I fucked up in these scenarios, I am sorry and I will not do it again".

In post 301, Frozen Angel wrote:you guys really need to get your shit together and consider others human beings as well

If those human beings insist on ruining games, they deserve to be called out on it until they refrain from doing so or are stopped from doing so.

In post 304, Firebringer wrote:Frozen, I am plenty willing to give someone a second chance. (In this case it would be fourth)

My huge problem with Yume right now, is she completely ignores the fact how much she has fucked up.
She has yet to say "I fucked up in these scenarios, I am sorry and I will not do it again".

she never ignored anything

she completly accepted all the critica I made against her. Your not criticizing her. your judging her.

In post 305, House wrote:

In post 301, Frozen Angel wrote:you guys really need to get your shit together and consider others human beings as well

If those human beings insist on ruining games, they deserve to be called out on it until they refrain from doing so or are stopped from doing so.

I can't link that game, but I can link this one

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=66480

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In post 305, House wrote:

In post 301, Frozen Angel wrote:you guys really need to get your shit together and consider others human beings as well

If those human beings insist on ruining games, they deserve to be called out on it until they refrain from doing so or are stopped from doing so.

As I said applying restrictions or punishing her for what she did is totally acceptable.

You don't have any authority to repeatedly harrass her publickly though by stating this fact "she can't change" you can suggest her to play in newbie games as thats a good place for her to learn as well

There is a very tick line in this : between 1. criticizing/enforcing punishments and restrictions and 2. judging others. The first is accpetable the second is not

In post 306, Frozen Angel wrote:she never ignored anything

she completly accepted all the critica I made against her.

Yes, she has.
She has made several posts in here ignoring players issues of her and insisted that the players are the problems, not herself.
She has continued to deny that she has made games bad (which is the reason why players don't want to play with her).

None of this is acknowledgement, this is either diverting the blame onto the players for not just accepting her or denying there is a problem to begin with.

In post 307, Yume wrote:

In post 305, House wrote:

In post 301, Frozen Angel wrote:you guys really need to get your shit together and consider others human beings as well

If those human beings insist on ruining games, they deserve to be called out on it until they refrain from doing so or are stopped from doing so.

I can't link that game, but I can link this one

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=66480

>.>

I can link games in response, do we really want to go there?

In post 302, Yume wrote:If you are gonna go there, then I don't want to be in the games of someone who holds real life issues secondary to playing games.

What real life issues?

In post 308, Frozen Angel wrote:You don't have any authority to repeatedly harrass her publickly though by stating this fact "

she can't change

" you can suggest her to play in newbie games as thats a good place for her to learn as well

Quote where I said anything of the sort or retract the remark please.

Saying someone doesn't deserve to be in games outside the newbie queue until they demonstrate a decent record IN the newbie queue is obviously accepting the possibility while also protecting games.

In post 301, Frozen Angel wrote:the ruin part and if she doesn't know how to play is fixable over time

over how much time? Shes had enough time already and her attitude has not changed one bit

she is trying to say she is trying to change house.

what is with this aggression

@Fire no. definitely not. I do beleive all the reasons are these 3 aren't they?
- her stubborn arguments accusing* others of game threw after all her games
- the way she is passive during the games
- the way she never plays some games she signs up for and get repeatedly* replaced* out of games

she accpeted the third multiple times in my face and I never saw her ignoring that she didn't do this before cause its not ignorable.
the second as well is completly accepted by her. and She claims she is trying to change that
The first is just not yours to judge. She has the right to feel bad about how some players played but her toxicity is the thing is not accpetable. For that she is blamale I agree. she never denied the the second part and was compltly reasonable to this if you ask her to stop toxicity. You are not critixizing that though.

In post 314, Wisdom wrote:

In post 301, Frozen Angel wrote:the ruin part and if she doesn't know how to play is fixable over time

over how much time? Shes had enough time already and her attitude has not changed one bit

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In post 311, Firebringer wrote:

In post 302, Yume wrote:If you are gonna go there, then I don't want to be in the games of someone who holds real life issues secondary to playing games.

What real life issues?

Like, sometimes real life gets in the way of being active every five minutes. That was your demand for Dragon Age. You weren't just restricting me to prod times, you insisted I post more than once during 12 hours. At least, that's what I got from FA's messages.

p-edit: Prove your assertion. You said I ruin large games. So give me one FINISHED, LARGE GAME that I ruined on THIS ACCOUNT. Games that are mini, micro or aren't on this account don't count, cos you explicitly said I ruin large games.

In post 314, Wisdom wrote:

In post 301, Frozen Angel wrote:the ruin part and if she doesn't know how to play is fixable over time

over how much time? Shes had enough time already and her attitude has not changed one bit

Every human being is capabole of change once they understand what is wrong with them.

lets assume Over ten thousends years

you can't say "she had enough time" for this

In post 316, House wrote:

In post 314, Wisdom wrote:

In post 301, Frozen Angel wrote:the ruin part and if she doesn't know how to play is fixable over time

over how much time? Shes had enough time already and her attitude has not changed one bit

^

Frozen, she sent me a PM threatening to destroy Cowboy bebop if I didn't back off!

pm me that please

Yume claimed your lieing

In post 317, Yume wrote:You said I ruin large games.

I said YOU RUIN GAMES.

In post 317, Yume wrote:

In post 311, Firebringer wrote:

In post 302, Yume wrote:If you are gonna go there, then I don't want to be in the games of someone who holds real life issues secondary to playing games.

What real life issues?

Like, sometimes real life gets in the way of being active every five minutes. That was your demand for Dragon Age. You weren't just restricting me to prod times, you insisted I post more than once during 12 hours. At least, that's what I got from FA's messages.

p-edit: Prove your assertion. You said I ruin large games. So give me one FINISHED, LARGE GAME that I ruined on THIS ACCOUNT. Games that are mini, micro or aren't on this account don't count, cos you explicitly said I ruin large games.

I never made that restriction. If Frozen told you that she told you that.

My conversation with Frozen went something like this:

ME: Frozen, this will be the third game that Yume has inned for that I am modding, she has replaced out of two already. I am hesitant to let her in. But if I do, and she gets replaced out, she is banned from any game I ever mod again
FROZEN: Don't worry I promise she will play! She gave me her word.

I was not surprised at all I had to replace you.

wiating for your pm house

In post 321, Firebringer wrote:

In post 317, Yume wrote:

In post 311, Firebringer wrote:

In post 302, Yume wrote:If you are gonna go there, then I don't want to be in the games of someone who holds real life issues secondary to playing games.

What real life issues?

Like, sometimes real life gets in the way of being active every five minutes. That was your demand for Dragon Age. You weren't just restricting me to prod times, you insisted I post more than once during 12 hours. At least, that's what I got from FA's messages.

p-edit: Prove your assertion. You said I ruin large games. So give me one FINISHED, LARGE GAME that I ruined on THIS ACCOUNT. Games that are mini, micro or aren't on this account don't count, cos you explicitly said I ruin large games.

I never made that restriction. If Frozen told you that she told you that.

My conversation with Frozen went something like this:

ME: Frozen, this will be the third game that Yume has inned for that I am modding, she has replaced out of two already. I am hesitant to let her in. But if I do, and she gets replaced out, she is banned from any game I ever mod again
FROZEN: Don't worry I promise she will play! She gave me her word.

I was not surprised at all I had to replace you.

yeah I'm pissed about that convo too

and I give you all right to be pissed at her and don't take her word after this.

In post 319, Frozen Angel wrote:

In post 316, House wrote:

In post 314, Wisdom wrote:

In post 301, Frozen Angel wrote:the ruin part and if she doesn't know how to play is fixable over time

over how much time? Shes had enough time already and her attitude has not changed one bit

^

Frozen, she sent me a PM threatening to destroy Cowboy bebop if I didn't back off!

pm me that please

Yume claimed your lieing

My fault, misinterpretation.

She threatened to break site rules.

That's so much better, innit?