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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:22 pm
by Toogeloo
In post 288, Fundamental Theorem wrote:Fun comes tomorrow if and only if Fire doesn't randomly duel someone off the bat tomorrow.
I feel like anyone who engages in consistent dueling would be doing so only to prevent other players from getting abilities. How confident are people in their scum hunting that they'd be able to win a 28 player game without abilities? I'd probably vote against a repeat dueler unless it were closer to endgame.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:23 pm
by Creature
VOTE: Katsuki

Plot twist

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:23 pm
by UnrealSeal
@garmr I don't think Fire is scum either

I do think he's stupid and I do think that there's very little chance he hit scum with his random duel

that's why I want him gone

but fine whatever

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:23 pm
by rb
In post 292, Garmr wrote:
In post 281, UnrealSeal wrote:@garmr do you even know if Katsuki is awake at this time of day

you are literally voting for someone who random duels people who haven't posted over someone who could potentially be actually useful
I have history with fire bringer and tbh I don't think his scum, while katsuki on the hand is a 50/50. If kat flips scum I'm lynching you.
how do you reason it's 50/50?

if you assume there's a lot of scum, say 8/28, and if you were town you'd remove yourself from the equation. so you'd have an 8/27 chance of hitting scum - 71% chance you hit town assuming we have a LOT of scum (almost 30% of players)

you're not that new buddy

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:24 pm
by Fundamental Theorem
In post 300, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 288, Fundamental Theorem wrote:Fun comes tomorrow if and only if Fire doesn't randomly duel someone off the bat tomorrow.
I feel like anyone who engages in consistent dueling would be doing so only to prevent other players from getting abilities. How confident are people in their scum hunting that they'd be able to win a 28 player game without abilities? I'd probably vote against a repeat dueler unless it were closer to endgame.
Good, please do.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:25 pm
by Fundamental Theorem
In post 303, rb wrote:
In post 292, Garmr wrote:
In post 281, UnrealSeal wrote:@garmr do you even know if Katsuki is awake at this time of day

you are literally voting for someone who random duels people who haven't posted over someone who could potentially be actually useful
I have history with fire bringer and tbh I don't think his scum, while katsuki on the hand is a 50/50. If kat flips scum I'm lynching you.
how do you reason it's 50/50?

if you assume there's a lot of scum, say 8/28, and if you were town you'd remove yourself from the equation. so you'd have an 8/27 chance of hitting scum - 71% chance you hit town assuming we have a LOT of scum (almost 30% of players)

you're not that new buddy
Where in the world are you getting 8 scum from?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:28 pm
by Garmr
In post 303, rb wrote:
In post 292, Garmr wrote:
In post 281, UnrealSeal wrote:@garmr do you even know if Katsuki is awake at this time of day

you are literally voting for someone who random duels people who haven't posted over someone who could potentially be actually useful
I have history with fire bringer and tbh I don't think his scum, while katsuki on the hand is a 50/50. If kat flips scum I'm lynching you.
how do you reason it's 50/50?

if you assume there's a lot of scum, say 8/28, and if you were town you'd remove yourself from the equation. so you'd have an 8/27 chance of hitting scum - 71% chance you hit town assuming we have a LOT of scum (almost 30% of players)

you're not that new buddy
His either scum or his not.

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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:28 pm
by Toogeloo
@MOD - Only the winner of a duel gets Energon or Scrap? Or does anyone who voted for the winner get E/S too?


There was an earlier comment that suggested that we wanted to duel early so people get their abilities, but if it's only the winner, then I feel like we should be collectively voting for dueling matchups first and then once the duel starts, vote in the duel. I know that seems a bit convoluted, but it seems like it would be a better way to encourage people to both be actively involved, and make sure that people that we think might be town get a chance to get their Energon or Scrap.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:28 pm
by rb
In post 303, rb wrote:how do you reason it's 50/50?

if you assume there's a lot of scum, say 8/28
, and if you were town you'd remove yourself from the equation. so you'd have an 8/27 chance of hitting scum - 71% chance you hit town assuming we have a LOT of scum (almost 30% of players)

you're not that new buddy

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:29 pm
by rb
In post 306, Garmr wrote:
In post 303, rb wrote:
In post 292, Garmr wrote:
In post 281, UnrealSeal wrote:@garmr do you even know if Katsuki is awake at this time of day

you are literally voting for someone who random duels people who haven't posted over someone who could potentially be actually useful
I have history with fire bringer and tbh I don't think his scum, while katsuki on the hand is a 50/50. If kat flips scum I'm lynching you.
how do you reason it's 50/50?

if you assume there's a lot of scum, say 8/28, and if you were town you'd remove yourself from the equation. so you'd have an 8/27 chance of hitting scum - 71% chance you hit town assuming we have a LOT of scum (almost 30% of players)

you're not that new buddy
His either scum or his not.
2 possible outcomes doesn't mean each outcome has equal potentiality...

someone fucking vig this idiot

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:29 pm
by RadiantCowbells
i stopped wanting to play this game tbh

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:30 pm
by rb
okay im going now because i said i wasnt gonna become toxic in mafia games again

ill check in later today or something

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:30 pm
by Andrius
In post 307, Toogeloo wrote:@MOD - Only the winner of a duel gets Energon or Scrap? Or does anyone who voted for the winner get E/S too?
Only the winner of the duel.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:30 pm
by SpyreX
@MOD - Only the winner of a duel gets Energon or Scrap? Or does anyone who voted for the winner get E/S too?
The winner.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:31 pm
by Fundamental Theorem
So, toogeloo is scum.... Got it.....

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:31 pm
by SpyreX
Official Duel Count


Katsuki
(4): UnrealSeal, Garmr, rb, Creature
Firebringer
(4): Fundamental Theorem, Skygazer, stungun0404, Toogeloo

Not Voting
(20): Vecna, MariaR, RadiantCowbells, gammagooey, Fate, Katsuki, the worst, Brian Skies, Prof Fridays, DrippingGoofball, Lady Lambdadelta, Spiffeh, Porkens, dramonic, Antihero, Princess Celestia, Gamma Emerald, BlueBloodedToffee, Papa Zito, Firebringer

With 28 alive, it takes 15 to declare a winner

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:32 pm
by Fundamental Theorem
Apparently, both Fire and Katsuki can vote.....

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:32 pm
by rb
just confirming, the person with the majority of votes wins and stays alive right

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:32 pm
by UnrealSeal
In post 315, SpyreX wrote:
Official Duel Count


Katsuki
(4): UnrealSeal, Garmr, rb, Creature
Firebringer
(4): Fundamental Theorem, Skygazer, stungun0404, Toogeloo

Not Voting
(20): Vecna, MariaR, RadiantCowbells, gammagooey, Fate,
Katsuki
, the worst, Brian Skies, Prof Fridays, DrippingGoofball, Lady Lambdadelta, Spiffeh, Porkens, dramonic, Antihero, Princess Celestia, Gamma Emerald, BlueBloodedToffee, Papa Zito,
Firebringer


With 28 alive, it takes 15 to declare a winner
oh they can vote for the other/themselves.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:33 pm
by Toogeloo
So yeah...

Unvote


I don't give a shit on the outcome of the first duel then.

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We need to coordinate the duels better though so that the matchups are more favorable to town. I don't even know if that's possible, but it's gotta be more favorable than hoping random chaotic dueling will work.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:33 pm
by Fundamental Theorem
@Spyrex:

Subject: Transformers Mafia - Day 1
Garmr wrote:
In post 243, Creature wrote:
In post 239, stungun0404 wrote:
let’s remember: we’re voting for the person who wins this duel, not the person that is being lynched.

Oh woops

VOTE: Firebringer
Ohhhhhh
UNVOTE: katsuki

VOTE: Firebringer

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:33 pm
by RadiantCowbells
VOTE: katsuki

alignments don't even matter

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:33 pm
by Toogeloo
And yes, I'm aware I've basically just told everyone that I have an E or S ability.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:34 pm
by Fundamental Theorem
VOTE: Katsuki

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:35 pm
by Fundamental Theorem
In post 322, Toogeloo wrote:And yes, I'm aware I've basically just told everyone that I have an E or S ability.
I'm pretty sure we all do.