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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:15 am
by Shoshin
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:20 am
by GirlInFreezer
Idk actually I kinda suck at mafia rn
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:22 am
by profii
In post 299, Shoshin wrote: In post 279, profii wrote:It’s easy for scum to just throw out whatever narrative they want to try and get people to believe but you’ve gone meta diving to go and find the “right” narrative irrespective of what you find
I don't understand this. Can you clarify?
Like you went looking for evidence
Scum have to fake stuff to make Town lynch town so they have to invent things - whilst that gives them the freedom to do anything they can get away with
You went looking for evidence of things you thought were true which seemed towny
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:22 am
by Shoshin
You don't know which posts you liked, GiF?
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:23 am
by GirlInFreezer
I don't know what to say more like
More gut feeling than anything concrete
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:26 am
by Shoshin
In post 302, profii wrote:Scum have to fake stuff to make Town lynch town so they have to invent things - whilst that gives them the freedom to do anything they can get away with
You went looking for evidence of things you thought were true which seemed towny
This doesn't make sense to me.
Scum look for evidence to support a case on town. Town look for evidence that indicates town or scum. You seem to be saying that I'm doing the former yet townreading me for it. I don't understand your logic at all.
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:26 am
by Shoshin
Alright, GiF's back to null.
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:27 am
by GirlInFreezer
What they're saying is that if you were scum there's a lot easier ways to push you and you wouldn't bother going for supplementary details which may end up not being in favor of the narrative you're pushing
But as town you would do the meta analysis
It's not the most rigorous of thinking but it makes sense
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:28 am
by profii
In post 305, Shoshin wrote: In post 302, profii wrote:Scum have to fake stuff to make Town lynch town so they have to invent things - whilst that gives them the freedom to do anything they can get away with
You went looking for evidence of things you thought were true which seemed towny
This doesn't make sense to me.
Scum look for evidence to support a case on town. Town look for evidence that indicates town or scum. You seem to be saying that I'm doing the former yet townreading me for it. I don't understand your logic at all.
I’m saying scum have to look for evidence of things that weren’t true in the first place to dupe everyone
Whereas your post looked like you were looking for evidence of things you thought were legit which makes scums job harder
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:29 am
by Shoshin
So, like, he thinks I'm town because of effort? Still bad.
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:29 am
by GirlInFreezer
Because of something that's incredibly consistent across my towngames?
I suck at expressing myself.
Bad as in bad or bad as in scummy
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:30 am
by Shoshin
Bad as in bad. I'm still figuring whether it means he's scum.
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:31 am
by Shoshin
And nah, the scummy thing is that somehow I'm not town anymore based on my posts of profii when you don't even have any clue what you think about profii. That change felt fake to me.
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:33 am
by profii
In post 307, GirlInFreezer wrote:What they're saying is that if you were scum there's a lot easier ways to push you and you wouldn't bother going for supplementary details which may end up not being in favor of the narrative you're pushing
But as town you would do the meta analysis
It's not the most rigorous of thinking but it makes sense
Yes
However that being said
I still want to know your (Shoshin) thoughts on why you only looked at me in a game with NSG - surely it was convienient to check out NSG while you were there
Also - I think me and RC were in a newbie game with NSG and there were periods of a few days of inactivity from NSG at certain points - I’ve not fact checked that but that is the reason I am not in a rush to sort NSG right now - ime I believe her IRL routine obviously causes this for reasons that aren’t our problem - it’s just unfortunate it happened 2 posts into her ISO
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:35 am
by GirlInFreezer
I am not scum and I can therefore not play to be townread, sorry
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:40 am
by GirlInFreezer
When you said that thing about weird reasoning being required to sort NR that indicates that you are on at least some level aware of my past scum aptitude yet the reasons that you're townread me and retracted that townread have been incredibly insulting. I don't want to call you out for it because I could use a few easy townreads to make me stop hating mafia but you're either scum or woefully unprepared to sort me if I actually were scum and tryhards g.
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:41 am
by Shoshin
I've read other games with NSG so I wasn't looking at her meta.
I also don't use meta in the way you're imagining, profii. I use it to check specific things that worry me, in your case the combination of questioning townreads (e.g. you didn't like my townreads on Stun or GiF) at the same time that you were speculating about how players could be scum but not town. I saw a lack of interset in who the town were and that worried me.
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:42 am
by northsidegal
helloo everyone
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:45 am
by Shoshin
In post 315, GirlInFreezer wrote:When you said that thing about weird reasoning being required to sort NR that indicates that you are on at least some level aware of my past scum aptitude yet the reasons that you're townread me and retracted that townread have been incredibly insulting. I don't want to call you out for it because I could use a few easy townreads to make me stop hating mafia but you're either scum or woefully unprepared to sort me if I actually were scum and tryhards g.
Weird reasoning to sort NR?
I'm not insulting your scum aptitude, if anything the opposite. I see you playing towny as fuck until the point where your paranoia about me starts to feel fake, so then I start thinking maybe all that town stuff is just really strong scum play and maybe I jumped the gun on townreading you. It doesn't help that my friend (Irrelephant) says you're basically unreadable because you're god scum.
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:49 am
by Shoshin
It's also weird that you don't like the reasons I gave for townreading you... like, most players wouldn't ever townread a player for the reasons I gave, so it's something you'd typically think to fake as scum unless you somehow knew that's the type of reasoning I use, and while you've seen my play in one game, I don't think it gave any indication that I'd be using that type of reasoning here.
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:52 am
by GirlInFreezer
I don't like it because I think it underestimates me horribly in a way you ostensibly wouldn't. Maybe I'm wrong on that.
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:52 am
by profii
Ears burning?
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:53 am
by GirlInFreezer
VOTE: nsg
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:54 am
by northsidegal
just reading through right now, feel like reading everything before talking rather than doing some kind of catch-up series of posts
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:55 am
by GirlInFreezer
VOTE: VOTE: VOTE: VOTE: nsg