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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:22 am
by NanceFloor
In post 294, chennisden wrote: In post 250, Time Devil wrote:Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there
Who cares? Dann isnt the most scummy player here, and 8ball spec takes away from finding scum.
On that note talk about your scumread with me please
+1
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:24 am
by NanceFloor
No one can actually ever replace Shoshin
but
*waves arms and does cartwheels, hoping a certain seal will notice her*
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:27 am
by mbaki
We are not lynching for "not the 8ball". We are lynching for scum, and if we happen to hit the 8ball (
very
unlikely), that's our fault.
This game is a mix of slow and too jokey. Not interested so far.
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:40 am
by Clemency
ur a joke
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:44 am
by Fuscosco
In post 302, mbaki wrote:We are not lynching for "not the 8ball". We are lynching for scum, and if we happen to hit the 8ball (
very
unlikely), that's our fault.
This game is a mix of slow and too jokey. Not interested so far.
so who's not joking? do you have a read on those players?
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:45 am
by Fuscosco
stepping back and letting it sink into its own quagmire isnt really how you go about fixxing it
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:27 am
by Confirmation Bias
Cool cool cool cool.
No doubt no doubt no doubt.
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:27 am
by Confirmation Bias
Fusc and Clemency are both town.
Clemency is my strongest town read.
~Conf
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:20 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Conf can you change avatars pls ty
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:21 pm
by Shadowlesscloud
Is this game usually this slow?
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:31 pm
by OkaPoka
If you think this game is too slow/lacks substance then do something other than complain plz
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:32 pm
by OkaPoka
VOTE: shadowless cloud
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:59 pm
by mbaki
Well, make that 7 or so reads.Not really counting.
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:18 pm
by Confirmation Bias
In post 270, Taly wrote:1) Why are you focusing on the 8ball? We didn't speedvote 8ball so we can try to figure out who was likely voted for it. That's pretty much the opposite intention here.
2) How did you come to the conclusion on who is more lynchbaity than not? Playstyle? Meta? I don't know either head of your hydra, so I assume you don't have adequate amount of familiarity with me or other players to deduce this about me.
And if you did, that makes me question your motivations even more.
3) How can you say {Me/mbaki/RadiantCowbells/etc.} will NEVER be 8-Ball?
What if we were scum who 8-balled ourselves and were baiting our lynch?
What if we were scum who 8-balled someone else because we didn't plan to get lynched?
What if we were town who got 8-balled BECAUSE we were "not lynchbaity, therefore a safe lynch"?
What if we were town who didn't get 8-balled, BUT we are a good "this person is playing like X and Y on playstyle, so we can lynch/townbloc them!"
Town can't strategize on this basis, and scum can ONLY strategize based off CONTROLLING how people will get lynched via looking at their "lynchbait equity"... Which isn't too helpful pre-8ball-vote, since we didn't start the game with "I think this person is town or scum!"
4) You're saying people who are lynchbaity can likely be 8ball and this is true, but you're making radical assumptions about people's alignments and motives before even interacting with the game. This is extremely agenda-based play and no town player can evaluate a "readslist" like this and find clarity on how to solve for who is town or scum.
This post is just WIFOM and if you were in the original startup of this game and knew why people voted 8ball then that makes this worse.
Can't answer some of the questions for Conf, but:
2. Bad assumption, you not knowing our identities doesn't imply we can't be familiar with your style. And yes, obviously one would come to a conclusion of whether a player is "lynchbaity" based on playstyle and prior propensity towards getting lynched.
3. If a player's not lynchable D1, it would be stupid for scum to pick that player as 8-ball; therefore they never will be. If they do turn out to be 8-ball, that's good for town. Scum 8-balling themselves and baiting their lynch is a terrible move for scum, especially if it's a scum player who carries their team. I agree that town can't strategize on this basis necessarily, we'll just have to be more careful sorting scummy town vs scum; there's no point speculating over the 8-ball.
4. Quote the "radical assumptions" and "motives"? I haven't really interacted with my partner about the list yet but it looks pretty obvious it's a list of "who's likely to be 8-ball as town"? Also, "RC won't be the 8-ball" is a conclusion that follows regardless of whether RC is town or scum. It doesn't require any "radical assumption" about anyone's alignment.
Yes, the post is a bit WIFOMy. You've spent a lot of words saying this, but I don't see the scum motivation for posting a "likely 8-ball" list?
(If "You're stirring up WIFOM to mess with reads" is your argument, that's a poor reason)
-Bias
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:34 pm
by Clemency
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:45 am
by RadiantCowbells
VOTE: confbias
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:46 am
by RadiantCowbells
i think that you guys are scum. how do you feel about that?
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:47 am
by Clemency
reasonable
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:27 am
by Shadowlesscloud
As for the discussion of the 8ball, isnt it actually protown to pop it this early? Unless scum can correctly guess who everyone is scumreading and would lynch, rn is the best chance to get the lynch+no kill from it as theres the highest number of people alive as there will ever be.
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:32 am
by RadiantCowbells
Yes I brought that up last game
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:37 am
by Shadowlesscloud
I havent looked at the past game at all so I wouldnt know
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:45 am
by Creature
Halo
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:00 am
by Confirmation Bias
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:04 am
by Confirmation Bias
Chen's town, and I'm unhappy with my 0verki11 vote since we share those townreads.
Can we have a VC?
VOTE: OkaPoka
-Bias
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:08 am
by Creature
What's going on?
