Micro 873 - Game Over

[Tim Goodman]

I am close to 100% sure after the marathon that I just played with Quest that they are scum in this game.

[Tim Goodman]

I'm also going to knock Implo off of the 'trust' list because I was only considering them there for the reason of Quest's read, so.

HEAL: Tim Goodman
HEAL: Skygazer
HEAL: Sashaddin
HEAL: Blake

Final slot is reserved for whichever of PvTurist or Northsidegal shows up to the game enough to know that they're town.

[Tim Goodman]

Or Weiss, I guess. I forgot that they existed.

[Quest]

I am close to 100% sure after the marathon that I just played with Quest that they are scum in this game.

That's going to be a big yikes from me.

[Blake Belladonna]

Quick question, Quest.

Do you still townread Tim Goodman after that marathon game?

[Blake Belladonna]

As a reference, I did do my homework and glanced at his other marathon games.

He is playing much closer to that game than he did in either of his other marathon games.

[Tim Goodman]

305 is very far from the truth.

[Quest]

Quick question, Quest.

Do you still townread Tim Goodman after that marathon game?

I don't value Marathon games when evaluating people, but I'll look at this sometime later and get back to you.

[Tim Goodman]

in fact I think that scumreading me after those 3 games of meta should be essentially a scumclaim.

[implosion]

I am close to 100% sure after the marathon that I just played with [player] that they are scum in this game.

sentences that should never be said

[the worst]

Vote Count 1.5

northsidegal (1) ~

skygazer

sashaddin (1) ~

weiss schnee

skygazer (1) ~

quest

not voting (6) ~

northsidegal, pvturist, tim goodman, implosion, blake belladonna, sashaddin

Coalition Count 1.5

• weiss schnee (5):
  weiss schnee, blake belladonna, skygazer, northsidegal, implosion
  
• quest (5):
  quest, implosion, tim goodman, sashaddin, blake belladonna
  
• sashaddin (5):
  sashaddin, pvturist, skygazer, tim goodman, quest
  
• pvturist (5):
  pvturist, quest, tim goodman, sashaddin, blake belladonna

• implosion (4):
  implosion, tim goodman, quest, skygazer
  
• tim goodman (4):
  blake belladonna, tim goodman, skygazer, sashaddin

• northsidegal (1):
  northsidegal

• skygazer :
  
  
• blake belladonna :

deadline:

(expired on 2019-06-02 23:00:00)

mod notes:

- weiss schnee is v/la until marathon weekend is over
- click here for joined mod iso

[Weiss Schnee]

As a reference, I did do my homework and glanced at his other marathon games.

He is playing much closer to that game than he did in either of his other marathon games.

HURT: Blake
HEAL: Tim

Sorry this is more on the principle of you claiming to have actually done a meta check on someone when I have tried to get you to do that before and felt like I was basically ignored

Still a decent chance you're town

Anyone got any problems with Tim?

[Weiss Schnee]

Sorry this is more on the principle of you claiming to have actually done a meta check on someone when I have tried to get you to do that before and felt like I was basically ignored

I'm not talking about this game obviously

[implosion]

I am close to 100% sure after the marathon that I just played with Quest that they are scum in this game.

I'm also going to knock Implo off of the 'trust' list because I was only considering them there for the reason of Quest's read, so.

HEAL: Tim Goodman
HEAL: Skygazer
HEAL: Sashaddin
HEAL: Blake

Final slot is reserved for whichever of PvTurist or Northsidegal shows up to the game enough to know that they're town.

I'd really, *really* love to hear more about this, including
1) do you specifically think a me-quest scumteam is a significant possibility? because that's implicit here. have you considered that team explicitly?
2) how in any way is marathon game meta capable of instilling a near-100% read in a non-marathon setting, in *any* context?
3) are you really knocking me off of the trust list for that reason? I thought you were explicitly scumreading me, or at least you were damn well implying it by saying you "strongly" didn't want me in a coalition. Why are you justifying not putting me on the list with this elaborate reasoning along the lines of "i thought quest was town, and i was trusting quest's read of imp, but i no longer trust quest so i no longer trust imp" instead of the much simpler "i scumread imp"?
4) why is weiss disincluded from the showing up later list?

[the worst]

northsidegal has been prodded.

[Blake Belladonna]

As a reference, I did do my homework and glanced at his other marathon games.

He is playing much closer to that game than he did in either of his other marathon games.

HURT: Blake
HEAL: Tim

Sorry this is more on the principle of you claiming to have actually done a meta check on someone when I have tried to get you to do that before and felt like I was basically ignored

Still a decent chance you're town

Anyone got any problems with Tim?

Games that are in a marathon environment are much easier to glance through within a couple minutes and get a pretty good idea of what happened than a full game, Weiss.

[Blake Belladonna]

So.

Is anyone going to be around tonight? I would like to try to mindmeld or at least discuss the game with somebody before I lose all interest in it.

[Quest]

I'll be around if there's anything you want to discuss with me.

I should say that I haven't had a chance to go through Tim's marathon games just yet, but it's something I can do quickly once I'm home (~10-20 minutes).

[Blake Belladonna]

What's your read on Weiss?

[Quest]

N/A. He hasn't given me much to work with.

That said, I think 311 is a weak reason to hurt you. The clarification in 312 was unnecessary which is something I usually scum read, but as I said, he hasn't given me much to work with.

It's fair to suspect someone because they're bringing up meta checks when it's something they don't usually do but to follow it up with "still a decent chance you're town" doesn't sit right with me. There's a little bit of opportunistic undertone to it, but it's not something I'm confident on.

[Blake Belladonna]

I'm hitting the point where I believe the scumteam is just Tim Goodman + Weiss Schnee and I really just need a sanity check on Tim and for Urist/NSG to both show up and give me enough to sort them to lock it in.

[Blake Belladonna]

As a reference, I did do my homework and glanced at his other marathon games.

He is playing much closer to that game than he did in either of his other marathon games.

HURT: Blake
HEAL: Tim

Sorry this is more on the principle of you claiming to have actually done a meta check on someone when I have tried to get you to do that before and felt like I was basically ignored

Still a decent chance you're town

Anyone got any problems with Tim?

For the record, I think this post specifically is scum-indicative.

[Quest]

I can give you what I've written about Tim regarding his Marathon games if you'd like. I didn't go into every game of his because I feel a lot of his games are very passive and bland, but if it helps you see Tim differently; let me know.

I don't know about a Tim/Weiss team; mostly because I'm still leaning towards Tim being town here.

[Blake Belladonna]

You've given me reason to townread you.
Implosion has given me reason to townread him.
Sashaddin has given me reason to townread him.
Skygazer is scummy on the surface but I think it's actually very unlikely for her to specifically approach reading me the way she has.

NSG/Urist are both absent and null.

Tim Goodman I feel is obviously scum at this point and I'm really confused as to why I'm alone in thinking this.
Weiss Schnee handled his engagement with me in a very bizarre posturey way and his general absence is another light ping to me since I know he's been generally around this entire time.

[Tim Goodman]

i don't think you can actually think i'm obviously scum here and still be town, so

guessing that scum are 2/3 of {quest, blake, implosion}