Newbie 1953 | Zooborns IV | Game Over

[Micc]

Unless someone gets healed.

Sure if someone gets healed you gain half a day. If two people get healed you gain another half day and end up back where you started.

Micc, can you post your reads?

Dyrenz as scum. Oobsy as worth of being policy lynched.
skitter and norwegianboy as out of my day 1 lynch pool.
Everyone else somewhere in the middle.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I might agree on switching my vote from Chemist to Dyrenz, we’ll see.
I don’t agree with lynching Oobsy, i think he is just a bit too green for his own good. I get that newb townie feel, not so much mafia is what i’m saying.

[Plotinus]

official vote count 1.09

baby brown-headed spider monkey

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Lynching

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Dyrenz

(2): Micc, Farren

Farren

(2): skitter30, Mr Oobsy

Chemist1422

(2): NorwegianboyEE, Jamelia

NorwegianboyEE

(2): Chemist1422, Dyrenz

Mr Oobsy

(1): Leucosticte

Not Voting

(0):

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-09-04 23:00:00).

Mod notes:

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[Leucosticte]

No, and he's said as much multiple times.

Oh, he did? I'll have to scope out the iso. UPDATE: I checked out the iso and didn't see what you're referring to. But I did see Chemist saying a lot of "Why this, why that" deflection stuff early on whenever people pointed the finger at him. He keeps crying out in pain as he strikes.

Plus if he's gonna single me out as the most sus, I should probably return the favor and make him justify it more if he wants my vote shifted elsewhere.

UNVOTE: Mr Oobsy
VOTE: Chemist1422

[Leucosticte]

I mean, I guess "why" questions can be a legitimate way to try to get responses from people to see if they're scum, but the rest of my post still stands, that I want more justification of why he thinks I'm sus.

[Micc]

Dude it was a page 1 RVS vote and he’s said so repeatedly. He’s not voting you and he’s not pushing for you to be lynched.

You claiming that he’s singled you out as the most suspicious is a gigantic miss representation of what chemist is saying.

[Leucosticte]

Dude it was a page 1 RVS vote and he’s said so repeatedly. He’s not voting you and he’s not pushing for you to be lynched.

You claiming that he’s singled you out as the most suspicious is a gigantic miss representation of what chemist is saying.

Yeah but the fact remains I've gotten this hostile vibe from him and if he has some kind of beef, I'd like to hear it.

[Dyrenz]

Mr Oobsy - "Actively applies pressure with voting instead of sitting on an empty vote." frankly is just not true at all and I have no idea how he arrived at that conclusion.
Leucosticte - this is just a list of anti town things that Leucosticte has done this game with the conclusion being town.
chemist - "Looking back on it, probably used initial RVS to bait an unwary scum voter." No, and he's said as much multiple times.

Mr Oobsy

- I said this because he moved away from his No Lynch vote and placed it on Farren after getting scummy vibes from some of Farren's earlier posts. Looking back now this was probably a stretch to say and I clearly need to be more precise with my language. (Seriously, I'm this awkward IRL too, drives my wife nuts)

Leucosticte

- It's his first game and he clearly came from a meta where PRs were likely discussed more openly. I apologize for trying to be forgiving in a newbie game, didn't realize we had to be so damn cutthroat in a NEWBIE GAME. Just cutting the guy some slack in what appears to me to mostly be a harmless newb townie. ( like myself!)

Chemist

- His very initial defense of his vote it was that it was RVS. He literally said...

Why are you treating my RVS post as if it was a serious one?

From what I’m getting here you’re calling me scum because my vote that was clearly during RVS was not adequately labeled as such?

It was an RVS vote

my lack of reasoning? it was literally RVS but people for some reason weren't accepting that as a reason

is it wrong to feel like I need to be defensive when I get three votes for an RVS post?

But PLEASE do go on about how he refuted that "multiple times" when he literally said it was an RVS vote on no less than 5 occasions.

You're so intent on lynching me and your experience and general leadership style make (at least in my opinion) lesser experienced players want to follow your lead. Yet I do everything I can to contribute and help town out with reads and I do my best to apply pressure where I can and you are STILL laser-focused on lynching me.

If you ask me, I'm starting to think you know I'm town and you are just playing a really good scum game.

[Dyrenz]

*sigh*

I'm sorry. I really am. I'm being overly emotional and letting those feelings drive what I write. I get frustrated. I'm sure anyone who is still just trying to learn how to play a good town game would get frustrated when everything they try to do gets thrown back in their face as wrong or false. Makes me feel like an idiot. Maybe I'm just too thin-skinned for this game. Idk. I'm gonna try to continue to do what I can to scumhunt, but I'm getting sick of feeling like I have to constantly defend myself on every page, especially when I know I'm town and I'm trying so hard to communicate that in my actions.

So again, I apologize for being so bad at this. My first game I was really meek and careful, and I tried to be more confident in my play this game and all it has done is blow up in my face. Sorry everyone.

[Leucosticte]

Scum will often do a "poor me" schtick, by the way

[Dyrenz]

Ok whatever just mislynch me then and get on with the game

[Dyrenz]

Eh, fuck it.

I'm Town Friendly Neighbor so we're obviously in B
There's a Mafia Rolecop, guaranteed.
Other PR is Tracker or Jailkeeper. Speculating this is hardly inappropriate since they're the only 2 options given my own role.

[Leucosticte]

Ok whatever just mislynch me then and get on with the game

The "poor me" took it to "

yellow scummy alert

" but the "just lynch me already" takes it to "

red scummy alert

"

UNVOTE: Chemist1422
VOTE: Dyrenz

[Dyrenz]

Revealing my PR shouldnt have done any damage anyway now that I think about it. Mafia already knows we're in B because of rolecop.

[skitter30]

Sharing that i didnt like that question

Congratulations on your rousing success, then.

Or was there more to it than that? By which I mean, I think there was more to it than that; please share.

I didnt like the bit where you asked if he thought his two scumreads were the team

A) that's a bad approach to take to scumhunting at this stage of the game, preflips. Just like for scum individually, for the most part, it's not really helpful to try to shoe-horn both reads into a scumread at this stage

B) i'm not sure how to articulate it exactly, but it kinda felt like a leading question

[skitter30]

Can you answer the question then? You might not like it but I also think it’s important

Was this addressed to me?

[skitter30]

If I ever seemed willing to consider today's posts tomorrow, it was because I was allowing for the possibility of some egregious slip-up that would become obvious in retrospect of the nightkill. For now, I will consider today's votes as meaningless. Likewise for the discussion surrounding them.

What's the point if even playing the game then?

And why is the nk such a magical event that it allows you to start scumhunting ?

[skitter30]

Plus if he's gonna single me out as the most sus, I should probably return the favor and make him justify it more if he wants my vote shifted elsewhere.

UNVOTE: Mr Oobsy
VOTE: Chemist1422

A) where did this happen?
B) why is this a voteworthy offense?

[skitter30]

Eh, fuck it.

I'm Town Friendly Neighbor so we're obviously in B
There's a Mafia Rolecop, guaranteed.
Other PR is Tracker or Jailkeeper. Speculating this is hardly inappropriate since they're the only 2 options given my own role.

Sigh
Dyrenz is town
You should not have claimed this early

Now can we all find somewhere else to push, like farren or norwegian? Ty

[skitter30]

Ok whatever just mislynch me then and get on with the game

The "poor me" took it to "

yellow scummy alert

" but the "just lynch me already" takes it to "

red scummy alert

"

UNVOTE: Chemist1422
VOTE: Dyrenz

No

We're not lynching him today, find somewhere useful to vote

[Dyrenz]

Oh believe me I feel like an asshole. Clearly still figuring out how to deal with pressure as town. Not doin' a great job.

Still thinking it's Norwegian personally

[Dyrenz]

I wasn't even L-1, god I'm such a wuss

[skitter30]

Yes, you should have waited for l-1 at minimum, if not intent
It's entirely possible that the wagon would have dissipiated without you claiming

What do u think of leu's vote after the claim?

[Dyrenz]

Seems pretty expected given my behavior. We had a wagon on scum in my first game and he pretty much just sat there and was like 'ok I guess I'm gonna die' and that just seemed to solidify the wagon on him.

[Dyrenz]

I mean, maaaaybe he could be scum took it as a free vote since it was SO easy to vote for me right then.