Do you think there were scum on the Senator wagon?
Probably. There's only four living players who weren't on the wagon so while a scumteam of Emperor/Roster/Elbirn wouldn't shock me or something (actually specifically Elbirn with the way he's been pushing "that wagon is all SCUUUMMMM" despite three actual confirmed townies on it) it also would be... not a first, but fairly surprising. I'm pretty sure I've seen an all-town day 1 town lynch, but I couldn't name the game.
Would 1 on/2 off surprise me? Not really. Nor would 2 on/1 off. I feel hard pressed to say it's 3 on or 3 off, both seem extreme. But my overall sentiment is I agree with what Mordhaus said. I wasn't going to come out and bag on the dead too hard, because that's tacky, but Senator fucking sucked (and if you're reading this, next game, please don't do whatever the fuck that was my dude). I have a hard time seeing votes for him as super alignment indicative. My strongest read off the wagon is that Elbirn apparently thinks Senator was the god of town, and I don't fucking see why. I'd like to push it, but I'd like another ~24 hours to see if something happens that I'm curious about.
P.S. Yes, this all goes out the window if there's a cult or something non-standard Korina.
I am aware of your existence via a nonspecific method. I can't speak as to other me's knowledge. Aside from you, Drew and Senator are the only members of the playerlist I don't have firsthand experience with. I have fairly extensive experience with a couple of them.
Wagonomics is unappealing with such limited information, and you should all know that. We had a 24 hour flashwagon on a player who basically begged to be lynched. It's gonna be hard to analyze stances from that.
With the VCs and TD's death, I want to start here.
You did, based on VCAs and TD's death of all things.
Not that I put a huge stock in VCA when someone has a meltdown in thread
but what is the logic there?
I voted you to immediately start the day.
I unvoted when we had the same reaction to the Korina posting. That's what I was referring to with logical synergy.
I'm caught between a rock in a hard place because I like you but your flip gives a fair amount of info for the game state at large.
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:13 am
by Korina
Roster is town based on the last game I played with them. Don't know if lurking is AI for scum!roster, but they lurked heavily d1/d2 in the last game I played with them.
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:14 am
by Titus
In post 306, Mordhaus wrote:Wagonomics is unappealing with such limited information, and you should all know that. We had a 24 hour flashwagon on a player who basically begged to be lynched. It's gonna be hard to analyze stances from that.
100% disagree. If a town player is begging to be lynched, scum might avoid or not depending on player skill and the other choices. Wagonomics is generally how I read people so I usually get better as the game progresses.
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:24 am
by Mordhaus
That's exactly my point, Titus.
We have a single flashwagon. There wasn't a real counterwagon. Right now, on D2, Wagonomics is going to be pretty hard to decipher at best.
Later, when we have more than a single wagon, it'll make more sense. But saying "We should lynch in the 50% of suspects on wagon" today is at best iffy, especially considering 3 of the people not on the wagon were not around from the time it became real to the time it was hammered. And the other one was Flubber.
Tl;dr: More stick poking, por favor.
~Dr. Rockso
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:26 am
by Mordhaus
@ mod: Speaking of poking, can we get you to prod the chicken, Mr. Baker man? I could use some chicken pot pie to go with all of this murder.
You could skippity-be-bop-sho-wap-wap-fap-fap-do-shap-banana-fanny-fucking say that its po-po-po-possible.
Listen, on a real note. Keeping up with these guys my whole career has been fucking exhausting. Do you know why i do so much cocaine? Cause i fucking have to. So needless to say, I have a problem. My memory is shot. I cant get it up for anything, all i do is murder the groupies that find out and feed them to the crocs. I dont know how much longer this can be my life, but these guys dont slow down ever. Its crazy.
+1
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:37 am
by Titus
I don't get high confidence in VCA until d3 and a scum flip (for the team I am looking for [since people suspect a cult], but I still think we can work off of theories and test them. That's the core of my town play. I don't think the situation is hard to decipher just two very different universes, three if we suppose cult/multiball.
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:39 am
by GreyICE
In post 309, Titus wrote:I voted you to immediately start the day.
I unvoted when we had the same reaction to the Korina posting. That's what I was referring to with logical synergy.
I'm caught between a rock in a hard place because I like you but your flip gives a fair amount of info for the game state at large.
I'd say what info
And then you'd tell me
Then I'd get annoyed it doesn't make sense
Then you'd get annoyed because it makes perfect sense and I can't be this thick
Then I'd get annoyed that you're annoyed because it doesn't make sense
Then you'd get annoyed that I have a tiny T-Rex pea brain
And we'd get dramonic's game all over again
So lets stop this and we both owe each other a few shots of whiskey or whatever your favorite poison is next meet.
I'll accept it, and I can see where TD's death looks like it might be me because we were barking at each other at game start, and hells if I'm against NK analysis. Speaking of, why would someone want to kill TD? I don't have much experience with him.
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:45 am
by Mordhaus
In post 288, gobbledygook wrote:If I had to take a gander at the "cult" aspect of the game, it would be that the mafia start as 2 people and then can recruit a third member or something of that effect. I'm not familiar enough with the show to substantiate that claim though. It might be wrong unless that are 2 or 3 clearly anti-klokateer people in the show.
I don't think I want Titus in the townblock right now. I think I want Drew in it.
This sounds more like a traitor that is recruitable scenario than a cult though, could be what semi cult meant?
I say we hunt down anything that doesnt smell town, when you do as much cocaine as i do you really get the sinuses opened up wide as fuck. I can smell cambodian cooking from my house in Malibu.
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:49 am
by Titus
TD might be a frame kill looking at the analysis. TD mentioned my VCA. TD was early on voting you.
It could also be scum Grey killing town TD as a variable he could not control.
His partner may have picked the kill. I legit don't have enough experience with scum!GreyIce to look at NKA at any detail.
I'll buy you a whiskey if you buy me a vodka. Just be sure Lexi knows its platonic.
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:49 am
by Mordhaus
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:02 am
by Mordhaus
NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY WITH A ROCK AND ROLL CLOWN?
I'LL SHARE MY COCAINE!
AND MY GROUPIES! WELL, THE LESS ATTRACTIVE ONES AT LEAST.
rockzo
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:04 am
by Mordhaus
Im going to end up more of an Emmett Kelly sad clown before this game is over at this rate.
Maybe i should slow down on the blow.
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GOT YA!!!!
LETS DO THIS COCAINE!
I have
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to help with the coke absorption though
micro cuts
inside our whole head!
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:23 am
by GreyICE
In post 319, Titus wrote:TD might be a frame kill looking at the analysis. TD mentioned my VCA. TD was early on voting you.
It could also be scum Grey killing town TD as a variable he could not control.
His partner may have picked the kill. I legit don't have enough experience with scum!GreyIce to look at NKA at any detail.
I'll buy you a whiskey if you buy me a vodka. Just be sure Lexi knows its platonic.
Eh... none of those feel right (I mean obviously the ones where I'm scum are off ). I was wondering more if he had a history with people here. It's probably a bit of a rabbit hole, I was just wondering if someone had personal experience playing with him that you knew of and might have gone for a respect kill.
And Lexi doesn't care if it's platonic, as long as she's getting some of the whiskey.
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:26 am
by Doctor Drew
In post 321, Mordhaus wrote:NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY WITH A ROCK AND ROLL CLOWN?
I'LL SHARE MY COCAINE!
AND MY GROUPIES! WELL, THE LESS ATTRACTIVE ONES AT LEAST.
rockzo
My man, I have been waiting all game for someone to do cocaine with!