In post 285, Datisi wrote:And like
it's not like it's just Mena BuLlYiNg you, other people are asking about your past experience as well
it's something that helps with a read on you
I thought you were able to detect tone in mafia games? how did you miss the obvious sarcasm?
wait those bolded parts were sarcasm?
oh my
he was accusing me of being certain when I clearly said I wasn't. of course there was some sarcasm in there.
in reality when I say somebody is probably scum, it really means the same as possibly. When I say somebody is scum, it doesn't mean I am completely certain of it. Menal has made this part of his talking points against me though so yes, those were heavily sarcastic responses and those apologies were insincere.
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:32 am
by Datisi
i mean in 53 he said "is scummy"
but right next to Mena's post is also 217 which is whooooo boy bad
and like
Meta on players isn't irrelevant
and it's broght up quite a lot on this site
like you claim you've read/played games here?
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:34 am
by Wimpy
In post 304, Datisi wrote:Meta on players isn't irrelevant
and it's broght up quite a lot on this site
like you claim you've read/played games here?
yes I have heard of meta. I am not a fan of people using it and I honestly think it's a lazy way to play. There are players who can adjust they way they play. They know how to manipulate their meta to fool people. I don't endorse the use of meta
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:35 am
by Wimpy
In post 304, Datisi wrote:i mean in 53 he said "is scummy"
but right next to Mena's post is also 217 which is whooooo boy bad
I don't understand why you linked these posts. There isn't anything wrong with either them imo.
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:37 am
by Datisi
i linked them so if anyone who doesn't know every post word by word in this game can click and go read them
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:39 am
by Wimpy
no I got why you added the hyperlink part. what is bad about those posts?
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:44 am
by Datisi
Because you did legit say "is scummy" in 53 and like for that point I can maybe if I squint see this shitshow as a TvT pissing match
but there's also post by Mena (232) that you called misrepping
but you made post 217 which I feel is more of a misrep
hold on i'll make a meme
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:47 am
by Datisi
Spoiler: my current read on Wimpy (colorized)
like I can't tell anymore
it seems like a shouting match that leads nowhere
but I can't get over the tone being off
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:49 am
by Wimpy
post 53 is referring to you
mena's post 232 is a complete misrep of what has actually transpired imo
post 217 is me being asked my opinion of mena and not you so how is that a misrep?
1. how you can even detect my tone if you couldn't detect sarcasam in my tone earlier
2. what exactly about my "tone" are you having a problem with?
1) I mean you can't "not" detect tone? plus me disliking your tone when you're geneally speaking vs missing the sarcasm are two kinda different things
2) it's just the general "i have done nothing scummy" "he has no reason to SR me" "he seems to ..." way you speak keeps rubbing me the wrong way
In post 311, Wimpy wrote:post 217 is me being asked my opinion of mena and not you so how is that a misrep?
I mean just because it's not about me doesn't mean I can't say "hey i get the feeling this is misrepping"
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:37 am
by Wimpy
In post 313, Datisi wrote:I mean just because it's not about me doesn't mean I can't say "hey i get the feeling this is misrepping
but 217 isn't a misrep. Not by me anyway.
In post 217, Wimpy wrote:He thinks it is weird to have a serious vote and also not be certain the person I am voting for is scum and that is not a town thought process
He basically accuses me of lying because of it. If he thinks I am lying, that is actually way worse than him thinking it is weird. So please show me where I misrepped? cause this quote really does support me.
In post 143, Menalque wrote:“Guys. It was a page 2 vote. There’s not enough evidence to suggest anyone was actually scum.”
So which time were you telling the truth?
Menal has straight up lied many times. Probably in a way to twist my words. I never said or implied the reason for my Datsi vote was because i thought she was scum. Me thinking she was possible scum came in post 67 but that was because additional things were posted that i didn't care for.
Spoiler:
In post 174, Menalque wrote:You claimed you voted datisi because you thought she was scum
In post 173, Menalque wrote:You clearly implied that you thought she was scum
In post 174, Menalque wrote:Now you’re claiming that you just voted her because she was scummy but that you never really believed she was scum
In post 182, Menalque wrote:I’ve already shown that you claimed earlier that you considered datisi scum at the time of this vote
In post 182, Menalque wrote:So trying to say that you didn’t consider datisi scum when you called her probably scum and implied that you were actually thinking she was scum in the answer to one of my questions goes in contrast to your later claim that you didn’t think she was scum but just that she had done scummy things.
I know I can definitely find more lies but I don't really need to. Part of me wonders if he originally misunderstood what i said, but I would think after i corrected him many times he would have gone back and actually read what i said. I never ever ever ever ever ever ever
ever
said I voted datisi because I thought she was scum and menal pushing that point is deceitful and scummy.
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:39 am
by Wimpy
In post 313, Datisi wrote:it's just the general "i have done nothing scummy" "he has no reason to SR me" "he seems to ..." way you speak keeps rubbing me the wrong way
but I haven't done anything scummy.
is voting you for something I perceive as scummy a scummy act in the game of mafia?
is defending myself from menal's lies scummy?
what else am I missing?
oh yeah, is me talking about burgers while scum hunting really scummy?
I say no to all of those.
btw 1993 Jack in the Box had a huge e-coli breakout and some people still to this day, myself included will never eat there because of it.
he has a problem with me thinking Datsi is possibly and later probably scum because he doesn't think I have logical reasons for it. (Scummy entrance and scummy posts)
but he straight up calls me scum and he has not provided any reason what so ever.
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:51 am
by Wimpy
In post 113, Menalque wrote:So it wasn’t serious just bc he wanted to policy dats but because he thought there was actual scum motivation there from her
This is also a lie, and putting words into my mouth. I didn't want to policy anyone and I did not say anything about scum motivation.
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:53 am
by Wimpy
In post 123, Menalque wrote:So wimpy explained his thoughts but not in a way that explained why he was making a serious vote on page 2 for dats. When pushed on the logic he makes up something about her play being against the rules, when he gets closed on that he’s evasive.
He’s generally over defensive in response to being pushed, and his explanations don’t make sense.
This is also a lie.
1. I never made anything up
2. I have never once been evasive
the rest of it is just his opinion but I could easily call both of those lies.
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:56 am
by Datisi
I'll overlook the jumbled mess above tomorrow when I get some sleep
but the first part of your og reasoning for my vote was "violating site rules" - and if that why you're voting someone over, what is that if not a policy?
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:02 am
by Wimpy
In post 143, Menalque wrote:“Guys. It was a page 2 vote. There’s not enough evidence to suggest anyone was actually scum.”
So which time were you telling the truth?
My take away from this, and somebody not menal correct me if I am wrong, but according to him I am not allowed to vote somebody on page 2 for being scummy AND not be sure if they are scum or not. One of those has to be a lie according to him.
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:07 am
by Wimpy
In post 319, Datisi wrote:but the first part of your og reasoning for my vote was "violating site rules" - and if that why you're voting someone over, what is that if not a policy?
Policy would be - Datsi violated site rules and I am voting him
There are two additional reasons that make it not policy though.
1. I dislike when people come in and reference past games and vote them for it
2. and is scummy
I clarify later different reasons I perceive it as scummy.
I mean if you want to say i policy voted you, that's fine say I policy voted you but so what? Would that change the course of what happened? no
did I still think you were scummy for it? yes
did i think your reactions to it were scummy? yes
would menal still have lied at least 5 times? yes
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:12 am
by Datisi
This was Mena's original post, with the quote being from your 140