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In post 298, Menalque wrote:How does it look like I’m contributing at all? I think voting the mod is quite clearly a sign that I was memeing rather than contributing and idk why you think that a vote for the mod is an attempt to look like I’m contributing

Because it's not contributing useful content and isn't helping me sort you.

In post 294, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:

In post 290, Menalque wrote:Like if you want to argue that it’s scum indicative for me you need to have a clear reason for why that particular behaviour is more likely to come from scum!me than town!me

What benefit do I get?

Also why would scum!me want to distract in that conversation?

Scum!you would want to do that if your partner wasnt handling themselves well and they were involved in the conversation,

but it would be super sus, especially after a flip, so overall I'm leaning towards this being too attention grabby for your scumplay, particularly after the postgame conversation in Newbie 1971. That and your interaction after us are why I felt like it wasnt scum indicative for you.

I'm curious why Aaron went back and talked about it though. @Aaron, you caught up yet? Also Mena, you heard from Aaron, where are your reads at?

BP

Your logic is that if my partner was fucking up in a TvS that my reaction would be to meme vote the mod?

In post 241, emps wrote:wooo gamblers fallacy please tr me

pedit: like the whole "voting mod is an easy way to rvs without like actially really "comitting" to anything"
and also kind of adding on to it, its kinda easier because u already voted mod (which, on its own, is kinda awkward to do)

idk why im like scumcasing myself now but like whatever lul

Weird sentiment coming from someone who joined in on the meme but alright

In post 300, AaronFrost wrote:

In post 298, Menalque wrote:How does it look like I’m contributing at all? I think voting the mod is quite clearly a sign that I was memeing rather than contributing and idk why you think that a vote for the mod is an attempt to look like I’m contributing

Because it's not contributing useful content and isn't helping me sort you.

Right but a moment ago you said that it was bad because it was trying to look like I was contributing while not

My question is how you’re interpreting a meme vote as trying to contribution of content at all

In post 268, Iconeum wrote:AF/HH/Aldus

both scum are in there

sorry to steal your thunder Menal

How do I got from being townread to suddenly being in your scumpool?

In post 303, Menalque wrote:

In post 300, AaronFrost wrote:

In post 298, Menalque wrote:How does it look like I’m contributing at all? I think voting the mod is quite clearly a sign that I was memeing rather than contributing and idk why you think that a vote for the mod is an attempt to look like I’m contributing

Because it's not contributing useful content and isn't helping me sort you.

Right but a moment ago you said that it was bad because it was trying to look like I was contributing while not

My question is how you’re interpreting a meme vote as trying to

look like

contribution of content at all

That's more of what I meant when I said you weren't contributing is that you weren't contributing 'useful' content.

It was the timing of it. Like serious discussion is happening and you continued to meme, which is technically contributing content, but it's content that isn't useful and you don't take much stance on any current discussions.

In post 293, AaronFrost wrote:

It's a way to look like you're contributing without actually taking a stance on anything.

I'm not sure that scum!you chooses to do that, but I'm also not sure why town!you chooses to do it either. Either way, it isn't very helpful when trying to sort your slot.

PEDIT: Whether or not we were in RVS isn't the point and maybe I should've phrased that differently. The point is, people were posting AI content and discussion was happening, and Mena continued with the meme.

This is what I’m not getting

Was it an attempt to i was producing content while not doing so

Or was it a total lack of contribution of content

In post 297, Menalque wrote:

In post 295, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:

In post 292, Menalque wrote:Why would that be any sort of tell vs completely NAI

Was that a question to me?

BP

Yes

I dont know if it is, that's why I want to look into it. I didnt think greeting the thread would be slightly indicative of scum, but it is. So I'd like to see if this thing I see alot in virtually all my games is indicative of either alignment.

BP

Like if I wanted to I was contributing then I could have just said something along the lines of “ahh, I don’t think X’s push here feels genuine” or “I think this is prob TvT”

So in what sense is me intentionally not producing meaningful content there an attempt to look like I am?

In post 304, AaronFrost wrote:

In post 268, Iconeum wrote:AF/HH/Aldus

both scum are in there

sorry to steal your thunder Menal

How do I got from being townread to suddenly being in your scumpool?

Good point, I had to iso you because I forgot you had AFF as a townread early, but you did. Can you walk me through this progression?

BP

In post 301, Menalque wrote:

In post 294, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:

In post 290, Menalque wrote:Like if you want to argue that it’s scum indicative for me you need to have a clear reason for why that particular behaviour is more likely to come from scum!me than town!me

What benefit do I get?

Also why would scum!me want to distract in that conversation?

Scum!you would want to do that if your partner wasnt handling themselves well and they were involved in the conversation,

but it would be super sus, especially after a flip, so overall I'm leaning towards this being too attention grabby for your scumplay, particularly after the postgame conversation in Newbie 1971. That and your interaction after us are why I felt like it wasnt scum indicative for you.

I'm curious why Aaron went back and talked about it though. @Aaron, you caught up yet? Also Mena, you heard from Aaron, where are your reads at?

BP

Your logic is that if my partner was fucking up in a TvS that my reaction would be to meme vote the mod?

You wanted to know the benefit. Yes, that's the logic for why it would be a benefit, but that's not how I think you would play scum.

BP

In post 308, Menalque wrote:Like if I wanted to

look like

I was contributing then I could have just said something along the lines of “ahh, I don’t think X’s push here feels genuine” or “I think this is prob TvT”

So in what sense is me intentionally not producing meaningful content there an attempt to look like I am?

I mean that would've at least been taking some kind of a stance, albeit a pretty weak one. That's content that'll help me sort you.

I've literally explained this already, you're posting a lot, which is contriubuting, but the content you've generated isn't useful.

I think you're getting too caught up in the phrasing of my posts.

Nah, I just needed to kind of push you through it because there was some inconsistency there, you’re p town

Just gotta do ISOs to double check

@Mena - so rather than have other people ascribe intentions to your play, I'm interested to know what you think you got out of it?

BP

In post 314, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:@Mena - so rather than have other people ascribe intentions to your play, I'm interested to know what you think you got out of it?

BP

Which bit are you talking about specifically?

@Mena - both things. 1) the exchange with Icon where you asked him about your record in reading him; 2) your mod vote and continuing it.

Icon’s paranoia was towny

Voting datisi was just me being meme-y and has no bearing on my alignment

Also, I’m willing to reveal scum number 1!

VOTE: uncrowned

In post 318, Menalque wrote:Also, I’m willing to reveal scum number 1!

VOTE: uncrowned

This is spicy. Why?

BP

The push on emps’ meme vote as scummy

Avoiding a hard stance on icon/HH — kind of talking about what they were doing without wanting to commit to an analysis of it or say what influence that had on his reads

Generally trying to push the line of meme voting being something scummy

Being way too confident on emps scum when trying to get me to vote somewhere other than dats

Suggesting that my play here is scummy or aimless in a way not in sync with my play in 1971 when my play here is clearly very similar if compared in ISO

I also feel like your play in 1971 is different. You werent really memey at all from what I can remember. Three of these things are about his response to meming. You really think his response is that AI?

I feel like uncrowned is town, but you reminded me about the hh/icon thing, I wanna go check his response to that.

@Uncrowned, you said you were 2 for 2 on picking out scummy entrances from one player, who you talking about with that comment?

BP

This is convenient though